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RmDebArc_5 piefed.zip RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip
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Comment: "Communism is the only one that taxes the rich". Reply: "isn't communism the one that wants to abolish money?". Reply: "pretty sure that's anarcho communism."
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PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him] anarchist.nexus PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus
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#2 · Quote Reply

yea

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BL4CKP1XX13 [they/it] lemmy.dbzer0.com bl4ckp1xx13@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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alapakala quokk.au alapakala@quokk.au
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#4 · Quote Reply

♥ 👎

It's Facebook/Meta.
Is OP expecting doctors there?

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#5 · Quote Reply

Nobody on the left gives a flying fuck about "taxing the rich."

That's a purely liberal pretend-solution.

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4am lemmy.zip 4am@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-23
#6 · Quote Reply

Nobody on the left gives a flying fuck about "taxing the rich." That's a purely liberal pretend-solution.

Oh really? Do tell, what does a true Scotsman actually want?

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Luminous5481 "Enemy of the State" anarchist.nexus Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2025-12-23
#7 · (edited) Quote Reply

Oh really? Do tell, what does a true Scotsman actually want?

what they mean, mr. snarkmaster 9000, is that there should not be any rich

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Oh really? Do tell, what does a true Scotsman actually want?

Do tell, liberal - is it your own right-wing ideology you do not understand? Or is it that you understand neither your own ideology or anything that can be called leftist with a straight face?

Or is it a question of both?

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Fifrok discuss.tchncs.de Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-12
#9 · Quote Reply

Nobody on the left gives a flying fuck about "taxing the rich." That's a purely liberal pretend-solution.

You can tell this is a leftist community because 1/4 of the time there's someone in the comments calling half of leftist ideologies libs, based solely on the fact that they kinda don't like them.

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Luminous5481 "Enemy of the State" anarchist.nexus Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2025-12-23
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Nobody on the left gives a flying fuck about "taxing the rich." That's a purely liberal pretend-solution.

you're getting downvoted because there's too many stupid people here who think the orphan crushing machine is acceptable so long as the government gets a cut and the rich get a chance to hide their wealth in offshore accounts.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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you're getting downvoted because there's too many stupid people here who think the orphan crushing machine is acceptable so long as the government gets a cut and the rich get a chance to hide their wealth in offshore accounts.

Liberal propagandists love this whole "tax the rich" horseshit because they, like the billionaire parasites they truly represent, know perfectly well that taxing them a slight bit more (which would be a best case scenario) poses absolutely zero threat to their private ownership over the means of production.

You don't beat billionaire parasites through taxation - you beat them through public infrastructure.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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You can tell this is a leftist community because 1/4 of the time there's someone in the comments calling half of leftist ideologies libs, based solely on the fact that they kinda don't like them.

Since when does "half of leftist ideologies" fetishise private ownership over the means of production?

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Luminous5481 "Enemy of the State" anarchist.nexus Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2025-12-23
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You can tell this is a leftist community because 1/4 of the time there's someone in the comments calling half of leftist ideologies libs, based solely on the fact that they kinda don't like them.

whether or not they are leftist, billionaires being OK so long as the government gets a cut is a liberal position. if you don't want to be called a duck, you shouldn't go around quacking and wearing feathers like one.

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Fifrok discuss.tchncs.de Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de
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Since when does "half of leftist ideologies" fetishise private ownership over the means of production?

This is the same level of "half" as the "nobody" in the comment I replied to, hope this helps

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Fifrok discuss.tchncs.de Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de
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#15 · Quote Reply

whether or not they are leftist, billionaires being OK so long as the government gets a cut is a liberal position. if you don't want to be called a duck, you shouldn't go around quacking and wearing feathers like one.

Can you quote the part where anybody here said billionaires are ok?

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ironycanal lemmy.dbzer0.com ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#16 · (edited) Quote Reply

you're getting downvoted because there's too many stupid people here who think the orphan crushing machine is acceptable so long as the government gets a cut and the rich get a chance to hide their wealth in offshore accounts.

So you think we should go back to crushing the orphans by hand then? I suppose you'll volunteer? Have you ever actually seen one of them crushed? All the squirming? The screams?

What the hell is wrong with you?

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adminofoz lemmy.cafe adminofoz@lemmy.cafe
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#17 · Quote Reply

Yall don't want to abolish money?

The anarchists in Spain did that about a 100 years ago.

Orwell wrote a book about fighting in the war with them. The actual people who did it can be watched in color on youtube. Its quite good / entertaining watching them explain how they were against all vices but found themselves in the position of giving out free cigarettes and alcohol.

Dont be so lazy or small minded.

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Luminous5481 "Enemy of the State" anarchist.nexus Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2025-12-23
#18 · Quote Reply

Can you quote the part where anybody here said billionaires are ok?

the part where they said tax the rich. there should be no rich. it isn't that complicated of a concept, I'm sure you can get it if you really focus.

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Azura The Spellkissed lemmy.blahaj.zone AzuraTheSpellkissed@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#19 · Quote Reply

the part where they said tax the rich. there should be no rich. it isn't that complicated of a concept, I'm sure you can get it if you really focus.

The first half of that comment is actually great and answers the question. 👍

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A404 lemmy.dbzer0.com A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#20 · Quote Reply

Nobody on the left gives a flying fuck about "taxing the rich." That's a purely liberal pretend-solution.

They are asking the billionaires to tax themselves

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A404 lemmy.dbzer0.com A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#21 · Quote Reply

Guys, can we go easy on the lib-jacketing please?

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Donkter lemmy.world Donkter@lemmy.world
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#22 · (edited) Quote Reply

I just got around to reading the communist manifesto and was surprised by the fact that it doesn't actually advocate for getting rid of money. It includes steps like having a very progressive tax, abolishing inheritance, and nationalizing banks but those all presume that there will still be money.

It then says that it will take multiple generations under these conditions for the idea of money to disappear and it will happen naturally.

I was also surprised to see that there's a similar argument for property. That it advocates for seizing private property (which has a particular definition in the book) but says other forms of property can be kept around and will only be abolished naturally in a few generations.

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adminofoz lemmy.cafe adminofoz@lemmy.cafe
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#23 · Quote Reply

Liberal propagandists love this whole "tax the rich" horseshit because they, like the billionaire parasites they truly represent, know perfectly well that taxing them a slight bit more (which would be a best case scenario) poses absolutely zero threat to their private ownership over the means of production. You don't beat billionaire parasites through taxation - you beat them through public inf...
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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#24 · Quote Reply

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I use the term "public infrastructure" and gallows is the first thing that pops into your mind?

Geez.

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a_non_monotonic_function lemmy.world a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
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#25 · Quote Reply

Since when does "half of leftist ideologies" fetishise private ownership over the means of production?

I know it is naughty, but it is the only way I can get off these days.

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Juice midwest.social Juice@midwest.social
Joined: 2024-04-24
#26 · Quote Reply

I just got around to reading the communist manifesto and was surprised by the fact that it doesn't actually advocate for getting rid of money. It includes steps like having a very progressive tax, abolishing inheritance, and nationalizing banks but those all presume that there will still be money. It then says that it will take multiple generations under these conditions for the idea of money t...

Awesome, why did you decide to read it?

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Donkter lemmy.world Donkter@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#27 · Quote Reply

Awesome, why did you decide to read it?

Honestly it was in a little free library box and I figured I sympathized in theory but I had never actually read the book. The actual manifesto is super super super short. More than half the book was prefaces from various authors (including Marx and engels) and it was still one of the shortest books I've read this year.

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Juice midwest.social Juice@midwest.social
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#28 · Quote Reply

Honestly it was in a little free library box and I figured I sympathized in theory but I had never actually read the book. The actual manifesto is super super super short. More than half the book was prefaces from various authors (including Marx and engels) and it was still one of the shortest books I've read this year.

A lot of the "communist canon" is made up of 50 - 70 page long pamphlets. Basically long enough to read in one or two sitting, and then discuss with other workers since reading circles were really popular during the early communist movement.

Glad you found it! Makes me wanna carry some copies around with me to put into little libraries!

A few pamphlets I'd recommend would be Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, which is about Historical Materialism, Wage Labor and Capital which is a brief primer on Marxist economics, and The 18th Brumaire of Louis Napoleon which is about the ascention of Louis Napoleon in France and incidentally contains about half of Marx's most famous quotes. It also describes conditions where the liberal democracy that was won decades earlier started backsliding into authoritarianism and semi-feudal social relations, and echoes many of our current conditions.

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ironycanal lemmy.dbzer0.com ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#29 · Quote Reply

Guys, can we go easy on the lib-jacketing please?

What a curiously liberal thing to say.

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ironycanal lemmy.dbzer0.com ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Oh really? Do tell, what does a true Scotsman actually want?

Right now? Really good hash browns and to share her toothbrush with a cute NB who's on the wrong continent.

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ironycanal lemmy.dbzer0.com ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#31 · Quote Reply

Do tell, liberal - is it your own right-wing ideology you do not understand? Or is it that you understand neither your own ideology or anything that can be called leftist with a straight face? Or is it a question of both?

Understanding is subversive. Not allowed. One must only identify and dunk upon.

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