Update first, then upgrade

Good catch. Haven’t been using apt in some time.

sudo pacman -Syu

Apt-get is unnecessary nowadays, just use apt, especially for simple commands like this.

sudo zypper dup 

Is it even apt-get still? thought they changed over to apt long ago and apt-get is just a symlink for legacy reasons.

At least that's what I last read... (speaking as someone also loving candy) .

apt is a wrapper over the apt- binaries (apt-search apt-cache etc).

sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt autopurge

I thought it was dist-upgrade

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apt is meant more for user interaction and apt-get is more stable and more for scripting. But apt-get is often used in online tutorials because it doesn't really change.

You forgot -y

This is the correct answer.

There's dozens of us!

Linux noob here. Just upgraded hardware and reinstalled Windows and Linux on the gaming computers and even though I'm a complete Linux beginner, 9 out of 10 software issues were with windows! I couldn't believe a gazzilion dollar company with thousands of employees still couldn't get it right?

"Fun" fact: Windows is finally just now, in the year of our lord 2026, trying to release some updates as "live". As in not requiring reboot.

It's going better than you'd expect, but still far worse than they have any excuse for.

I think it wasn't for APT but I once worked for a business with a lot of RHEL, the script that was updating hundreds of servers was using the user wrapper instead of the binaries. A warning was displayed in the script to warn not to use the wrapper for scripts.

I warned my team leader of the issue and was completely ignored and was said that it was an issue for the team that made the script in the first place.

I gave up.

A few weeks later, the poorly designed script botched a major update on hundred of servers because the wrapper had a tiny change and the update script didn't handle it well.

It's insane to me how much money a business can waste for stupid shit like that. The devs warned us not to use their wrapper to script on, the linux team did it anyway, my warning was ignored, many hours of engineers work was wasted fixing the chaos that ensued.

It’s all fun and games until you one day you see:

E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

And it’s complaining about packages you’ve never heard of before.

sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt autopurge -y

On Fedora live update is turned of by default with a warning saying updating without rebooting is not recommended. As a cautious noob, I left it as is. Too cautious?

thats only if it actually downloads and installs. our enterprise windows installs like to take 5-10 attempts to actually get the software onto the computer. "Install failed. retry?"

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Yeah, rebooting just makes sure that everything is using the new updated packages, so if you update then reboot you'll be golden

sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y && flatpak update -y

No. Fedora sometimes updates configs or packages (e.g. kernel) that require a reboot to take advantage of. If you're a linux veteran you can decide by yourself if or if not you need to reboot. But fedora wants to have a stable and smooth experience for all its users.

transactional-update :)

dist-upgrade has essentially been replaced by full-upgrade in the recent years.

I just want to share that last semester, the Windows podium computer we used decided randomly to update during a student presentation. It did not help their nerves, but I did turn it into a chance to evangelize Linux.

And no, they can't use their own laptop, the connections to the podium computer, and thus the projector, use VGA...

I just post memes bud. Occasionally make them, but more often just repost them.

Not that it matters much but isn't there cheap adapters to/from VGA?

It would be nice if they could do the update with a single reboot. It is annoying to type LUKS password multiple times.

For those who are confident in their system setup

sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove -y

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apt-get dist-upgrade

Yes but it's generally easier and less prone to issues to just open their PowerPoint (or really, Google sheets) on the podium since I'm already using it. I'm sure the admin uses adapters as their excuse not to update the hardware though... (even if they are still using Win 11 on decades old computers).

... && apt-get moo

Honestly, I would prefer if a video projector wasn't tossed as garbage if you can just buy a cheap adapter and put it in a box next to the podium.

We have enough electronic waste as it is!

Odd, most companies don’t have problems with them.

Not exactly correct. They are releasing their hot patch service more broadly. These are updates that would normally require a restart no longer need to be restarted.

Just like Linux though, if you didn’t want to restart after updating you never really were forced to.

Update before upgrade you nonce

sudo apt upgrade -U -y

choco upgrade all

Not a built-in, of course, but chocolatey gets you Linux-like package manager behavior on Windows. With it you can run headless software installs and automatically update software. It's great for remote/VM management.

sudo apt full-upgrade -U -y 

Should be all you need.

Yes, same; the real solution is Linux podium with an adapter in every room by default. But that's not happening anytime soon, lol.

Technically it's not the projector with the issue either, the podium is more or less a very fancy hub with a monitor built in. I feel like the adapter could just be built in if necessary, lol.

Until Google neglects to update Google Earth and your entire system update gets hung on a no-digest error so you have to either uninstall Google Earth or run a custom update command that skips it every single time. 😩

bash <(curl -s https://raw.githubusercontent.com/BassT23/Proxmox/master/install.sh)

I used chocolatey for a while on windows. I did like it, but due to some of the fussiness with it I found it was just better to put up with crappy .exe files

winget upgrade --all

sudo aptitude safe-upgrade

..and while it's running I'll check my email and post something on lemmy!

edit: literally just did this to make sure it would work. Tbh it was a little balky.

scoop update