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cuchi
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Greg Clarke
lemmy.ca
Greg@lemmy.caJoined: 2022-11-09 |
I don't know why they didn't just hire Bajoran actors for the new series |
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Iced Raktajino
startrek.website
IcedRaktajino@startrek.websiteJoined: 2025-07-15 |
I loved PIC S3 and definitely seeing Ro Laren again, but yeah, I did notice the makeup was a lot more subtle than in her TNG appearances. Now I wonder if it was always supposed to be that subtle but had to be "exaggerated" a bit back then to show up on older TVs. Kind of like how the Addams Family set was mostly pink so it appeared correctly on old black and white TV sets. |
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cuchi
startrek.website
cuchi@startrek.website Joined: 2024-01-15 |
I don't know why they didn't just hire Bajoran actors for the new series
Warp speed is still very far. EDIT: But seriously talking, this "why they didn’t just hire alien actors" joke is the equivalent of "I Sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter". |
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SkaveRat
discuss.tchncs.de
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-07-09 |
I don't know why they didn't just hire Bajoran actors for the new series
the visa requirements for wormhole travel are insane |
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ValueSubtracted
Moderator
ValueSubtracted@startrek.websiteJoined: 2023-06-11 |
the visa requirements for wormhole travel are insane
And how many Bajorans want to risk an encounter with ICE? |
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ValueSubtracted
Moderator
ValueSubtracted@startrek.websiteJoined: 2023-06-11 |
It's worth noting that they had scaled Ro's makeup back considerably by her final TNG appearance:
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cuchi
startrek.website
cuchi@startrek.website Joined: 2024-01-15 |
And how many Bajorans want to risk an encounter with ICE?
Cardassians counts as ICE? |
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blackbeans
lemmy.zip
blackbeans@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-01-21 |
I loved PIC S3 and definitely seeing Ro Laren again, but yeah, I did notice the makeup was a lot more subtle than in her TNG appearances. Now I wonder if it was always supposed to be that subtle but had to be "exaggerated" a bit back then to show up on older TVs. Kind of like how the Addams Family set was mostly pink so it appeared correctly on old black and white TV sets.
Not so sure about that. Actually tv in the '90s was not that bad. In terms of resolution it looked similar to 480p video, but without any artifacts. Furthermore due to the nature of how a CRT works, those tvs actually had less motion blur than flat screens. |
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cuchi
startrek.website
cuchi@startrek.website Joined: 2024-01-15 |
I didn't notice this, good catch. |
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Steve
communick.news
Steve@communick.newsJoined: 2023-08-05 |
Almost everything about TV makup has changed since then. Those looks in the 80s & 90s were designed for SD broadcast on CRT televisions. Today's 4K HDR TVs are substantially better in every way. You don't need to push the makup as far for it to look good. Also tastes have changed. In the 80s and 90s bold colorful looks were much more common and popular. Today, not so much. The trend is for natural looking makup. Shows and movies reflect the tastes of their time. So yah, TV character makup has changed a lot over the last 35 years. |
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atomicbocks
sh.itjust.works
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-02-16 |
Not so sure about that. Actually tv in the '90s was not that bad. In terms of resolution it looked similar to 480p video, but without any artifacts. Furthermore due to the nature of how a CRT works, those tvs actually had less motion blur than flat screens.
TNG and DS9 (and early Voyager) episodes were mastered to Beta tapes which had a best case functional resolution of 280p. This is why the TNG Blu-ray’s took so much effort and why they haven’t done Blu-ray’s of DS9 or Voyager, there aren’t film masters to scan they have to be recreated from the original negatives. |
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Greg Clarke
lemmy.ca
Greg@lemmy.caJoined: 2022-11-09 |
Warp speed is still very far. EDIT: But seriously talking, this "why they didn’t just hire alien actors" joke is the equivalent of "I Sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter".
TIL about I Sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. 🖖🏳️⚧️ |
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blackbeans
lemmy.zip
blackbeans@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-01-21 |
TNG and DS9 (and early Voyager) episodes were mastered to Beta tapes which had a best case functional resolution of 280p. This is why the TNG Blu-ray’s took so much effort and why they haven’t done Blu-ray’s of DS9 or Voyager, there aren’t film masters to scan they have to be recreated from the original negatives.
Beta tapes are 480i, 720x480 interlaced That's more than enough resolution to clearly identify faces. |
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atomicbocks
sh.itjust.works
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-02-16 |
Beta tapes are 480i, 720x480 interlaced That's more than enough resolution to clearly identify faces.
Only ED-Beta was capable of that and it wasn’t released until after TNG was on the air. The GameBoy Advance had a 240x160 resolution and they released video carts for that. I wasn’t saying it was too low to see faces, just commenting on the technical details of TNG, etc. |
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Juice
midwest.social
Juice@midwest.social Joined: 2024-04-24 |
Only ED-Beta was capable of that and it wasn’t released until after TNG was on the air. The GameBoy Advance had a 240x160 resolution and they released video carts for that. I wasn’t saying it was too low to see faces, just commenting on the technical details of TNG, etc.
This is the most star trek fan debate of all time |
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fakeman_pretendname
feddit.uk
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Thought that was Admiral Cain off of Battlestar Galactica at first. (It is the same actress, but also similar clothing and hairstyle) |
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piefed.world
aaaa@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-09 |
the visa requirements for wormhole travel are insane
Wtf, are they doing the filming in the Gamma Quadrant? |
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NigelFrobisher
aussie.zone
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone Joined: 2023-08-07 |
I don't know why they didn't just hire Bajoran actors for the new series
Representation counts for a lot when no-one looks like you at school. |
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SpaceCowboy
lemmy.ca
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-06-17 |
Wtf, are they doing the filming in the Gamma Quadrant?
Yeah because of the demands by the changeling members of the cast. They have a really strong union. |
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marlowe221
lemmy.world
marlowe221@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Cardassians counts as ICE?
I’m pretty sure that’s what the “C” stands for… |
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James R Kirk
startrek.website
Kirk@startrek.websiteJoined: 2025-03-01 |
Almost everything about TV makup has changed since then. Those looks in the 80s & 90s were designed for SD broadcast on CRT televisions. Today's 4K HDR TVs are substantially better in every way. You don't need to push the makup as far for it to look good. Also tastes have changed. In the 80s and 90s bold colorful looks were much more common and popular. Today, not so much. The trend is for ...
Eh, you're not wrong but OP also picked a bad example. |
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cuchi
startrek.website
cuchi@startrek.website Joined: 2024-01-15 |
Almost everything about TV makup has changed since then. Those looks in the 80s & 90s were designed for SD broadcast on CRT televisions. Today's 4K HDR TVs are substantially better in every way. You don't need to push the makup as far for it to look good. Also tastes have changed. In the 80s and 90s bold colorful looks were much more common and popular. Today, not so much. The trend is for ...
For good or for bad? |
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Steve
communick.news
Steve@communick.newsJoined: 2023-08-05 |
For good or for bad?
Well that's a stylistic choice. It doesn't matter really, does it? |
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Jason2357
lemmy.ca
Jason2357@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-11 |
TNG and DS9 (and early Voyager) episodes were mastered to Beta tapes which had a best case functional resolution of 280p. This is why the TNG Blu-ray’s took so much effort and why they haven’t done Blu-ray’s of DS9 or Voyager, there aren’t film masters to scan they have to be recreated from the original negatives.
God I love nerds. Have all my upvotes. |
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cuchi
startrek.website
cuchi@startrek.website Joined: 2024-01-15 |
Well that's a stylistic choice. It doesn't matter really, does it?
"It doesn’t matter really". I was not complaining, just asking. 😀 |
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