My 30 seconds just isn't going to cut it.

That’s why you have a mouth and hands, potentially even getting your thigh in there.

Honestly, the penis in the vagina is sometimes the least exciting part about sex with that arrangement of genitals.

Honestly, the penis in the vagina is sometimes the least exciting part about sex with that arrangement of genitals.

The same is true the other way round too. Which makes it all the more frustrating that a lot of women think their whole contribution to sex is to lay there and provide a vagina.

What a disgusting comment to make to me. That's not the inverse of my comment at all.

Have you tried making the sex better for them by chance? You're really telling on yourself here.

Oh no. This is 14 minutes too long.

Not for nothing, but the tendency for people who get along purely by being conventionally attractive to starfish isn't like, a secret. Lack of effort isn't really a gendered thing.

My comment wasn't talking about people who exhibit a lack of effort with sex.

There's a lot that goes into why a person may starfish during sex and, maybe surprisingly to you, a lot of it is rooted in lack of sexual education and/or sexual abuse.

Their comment wasn't gendered at all. Yours, however, went straight to being divisive and attacking women...

Edit: Lots of downvotes and no replies. Someone please tell me what I said you disagree with

Can you elaborate on

maybe surprisingly to you

?

You’re the one defending the sexist comment.

Being nasty about women laying back and only offering their vaginas is worse than anything I’ve said.

What a gross comment.

I genuinely do not read where they are doing what you're saying they're doing. All they said was someone laying down and not putting effort into sex may have a history of trauma. Meanwhile, you and the other fella kinda were ridiculing people who do that...

How to prepare a frozen pizza for two:

Place pizza in oven➡️sexy time➡️orgasm➡️pizza is ready➡️enjoy!

You may have to adjust those times if you have a convection oven.

If I let my oven get to 425, it cooks a pizza in less than 10 minutes.

14min is the average, so perhaps the secret to a successful relationship is finding a partner who you can climax with in the time it takes to bake your favorite pizza.

I'm going to copy my original comment:

Not for nothing, but the tendency for people who get along purely by being conventionally attractive to starfish isn't like, a secret. Lack of effort isn't really a gendered thing.

Where I very specifically narrow it down to vapid people who are in it for self-pleasure as opposed to mutual enjoyment.

The acrobatic inception of the idea that we're talking about people reliving trauma instead of just being emotionally checked out like the entire previous thread implied is what I take issue with, it's some legitimately heinous fake ally shit to use that as a non-sequiter argument.

And yes, implying that I or the guy before me continued on through a partner reliving trauma IS nonconsent which IS rape. You can't imply one without implying the other.

lol I did not accuse you of rape. That’s insane levels of cope for being called out on defending a sexist comment.

Yes, certain observations can be uncomfortable but that's not a bad thing. It provides substance, for one, which your comment lacks

First comment: "Conventional sex can be the least exciting part of sex."

Second comment: "Yeah, so many women just lay there and contribute a vagina."

You: "What an insightful comment!"

🤮

Look man. We're gonna follow the directions, and we're cooking a Tombstone. Not no damned tostinos.

Those sentences don't connect, your reading makes no sense. Try this:

first comment: sex isn't just about penetration

second comment: and yet a lot of women seem to think this, given how many just lay there

What a sexist comment.

• Man does everything when it comes to sex.
• Woman says "Sex is your responsibility"
• Woman doesn't want to contribute at all.
• Man makes woman cum every single time for the last 10 years.

You:

It's your fault, because you are a man and complaining about a woman not putting in effort is sexist.

Of course you didn't know any of what is actually happening, but because I'm a man, you instantly assumed that I must be doing nothing. That is incredibly sexist of you. Check your privilege.

a lot of it is rooted in lack of sexual education

True. And who's job is it to educate a grown woman on sex? Are you so sexist that you think women can't be responsible for educating themselves?

So you think that's the level of effort a woman is supposed to put in, because she's a woman and thus can't be responsible for her actions? That's incredibly sexist.

No.

First comment: "My 30 seconds just isn’t going to cut it." -> Clearly a man

Second comment: "That’s why you have a mouth and hands, potentially even getting your thigh in there. Honestly, the penis in the vagina is sometimes the least exciting part about sex with that arrangement of genitals." -> Telling a man that PIV is not the only thing to do, but that he should be putting in more effort than just offering a penis

Third comment (my comment): "The same is true the other way round too. Which makes it all the more frustrating that a lot of women think their whole contribution to sex is to lay there and provide a vagina." -> Telling women that PIV is not the only thing to do, but that it would be cool if they too put more effort in than just offering a vagina

Your comment: 🤮

Yes, the first comment was gendered.

It replied to a man telling him that he should be doing stuff apart from PIV.

Of course, if you ignore the context, you can interpret it differently. But ignoring context invalidates any conversation in general.

To check your prejudices, please complete these two sentences:

A man who doesn't take care of his partner during sex is ....

A woman who doesn't take care of her partner during sex is ...

I gotta remember to add this to my dating profiles.

I'm sorry, can we read those back again?

First comment: “My 30 seconds just isn’t going to cut it.” -> Clearly a man

Second comment: “That’s why you have a mouth and hands, potentially even getting your thigh in there. Honestly, the penis in the vagina is sometimes the least exciting part about sex with that arrangement of genitals.” -> Telling a man that PIV is not the only thing to do, but that he should be putting in more effort than just offering a penis

No, that says "there are other ways to have sex than PIV," it does not say "you should be putting in more effort "

Third comment (my comment): “The same is true the other way round too. Which makes it all the more frustrating that a lot of women think their whole contribution to sex is to lay there and provide a vagina.” -> Telling women that PIV is not the only thing to do, but that it would be cool if they too put more effort in than just offering a vagina

Your response to a woman saying "there are other ways to have sex besides PIV" is "it would be cool if women put more effort into sex." You're telling this to the woman who is saying there are other ways to have sex besides PIV. All she said was "you can use your mouth, too!" to the guy making a joke about lasting 30 seconds. Nowhere did she say anything about men at large. Do you think this is some competition between men and women so you had to throw in to say "no actually women are worse?" Do you genuinely not see how what you said in this context was totally uncalled for and sexist?

Please show me where she said "you should be doing something." All I read is that she provided some other options for sex

I see reading comprehension is a struggle for you.

Not all men have penises and not all women have vaginas, you can actually go fuck yourself.

My comment wasn't talking about people who exhibit a lack of effort with sex.

My comment was not gendered.

You’re just a transphobe.

These men with their soft feelings can’t handle sex that is on equal footing.

I’ve topped more men in my life than these men have fucked women. I know what I’m talking about and it upsets them hahaha

Nah I think you’re nasty about women because you’re a pathetic man who can’t take accountability for his own actions.

And you’re transphobic.

Only if you don’t care to make your partner cum.

As a man, how many damn orgasms do you want in a fuck?

I think my record has been 12-14 orgasms in a single session.

There’s a handful of fun benefits to being a cis woman.

Jesus Christ! Hell of person you were with too I must say.

It was a team effort :)

Do you genuinely not see how what you said in this context was totally uncalled for and sexist?

Not only does he not see it, but the amount of upvotes on his comments reveal yet again the majority opinion on this site and it's disgusting.

That’s so cool!! Today I learned!

I'm honestly surprised by the piling on of downvotes. I thought people here were at least slightly more self aware than reddit, given how LGBTQ inclusive most instances here are, but I was obviously naive.

You’re literally talking to a woman who puts in effort with sex. Enough to know there’s a lot more ways to try to please someone than shoving your dick inside and calling it a day.

You’re certainly not qualified to teach anyone about pleasing others in bed.

This is where all the incels went after they were pushed off of Reddit.

There’s simply no way this man has slept with enough people to proclaim that most women don’t put in effort during sex.