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ㄖㄨㄖㄙ祂 retrolemmy.com rursta@retrolemmy.com
Joined: 2026-04-24
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Stop✋ xenophobia protest

I’ve been seeing this trend in multilingual communities getting mass downvoted for posting content not in American English, and it's affecting how people interact with respective communities that post non ACE posts.

One huge e.g. was Sword of Legends 4 coverage. The raw sources were massdownvoted. Meanwhile an ACE corporation got inversely upvoted for secondary sourcing information.

Is threadiverse really this xenophobic?
Or is there something we can do about this?

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reddig33 lemmy.world reddig33@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#2 · Quote Reply

I just wish some of the Lemmy client apps offered to translate posts like most web browsers do these days.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/Translation

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diocesegoldmine sh.itjust.works diocesegoldmine@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-24
#3 · (edited) Quote Reply

Lots of people are here from reddit, so the chances of them being very racist is quite high based just off that.

Not to mention how bigoted and white focused the general tech space is, it was built by and thrives off of the white supremacist perspective. That's the real reason why alternative social media platforms don't take off, or when they do they just end up being absorbed by the exact same issues they were supposedly created to avoid, ie Bluesky.

What's the point in getting off reddit if the reddit attitude infects the alternative too? If you want to create an alternative social media platform that's actually worth using you need to make bigots uncomfortable, and follow the doctrine of the intolerance paradox. But asking nonblack people to do that is often met with ridicule or snarky superiority complexes.

I might even get downvotes or snarky responses proving that🤷‍♀️

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TropicalDingdong lemmy.world TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
#4 · Quote Reply

Here is the list of people who voted on the first one: https://lemvotes.org/post/retrolemmy.com/post/38774589

And the second one: https://lemvotes.org/post/lemmy.zip/post/65659001

@ShadowDragon@discuss.tchncs.de downvoted the first and upvoted the second within 2 minutes of one another. Perhaps you can ask them their thoughts?

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nullpotential lemmy.dbzer0.com nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-11-14
#5 · Quote Reply

You made a simplified Chinese language post to an English-speaking Canadian instance's community. Rule 9 on their community specifically says you should use the original source UNLESS it is paywalled or not in English.

You can try and find an instance or community that is primarily Chinese or multilingual or make one yourself. I know hosting a whole instance isn't for everyone though. Alternatively you could just use a platform without voting like mastodon or ice shrimp/miskey etc.

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Die4Ever retrolemmy.com Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com
Joined: 2024-05-06
#6 · Quote Reply

You made a simplified Chinese language post to an English-speaking Canadian instance's community. Rule 9 on their community specifically says you should use the original source UNLESS it is paywalled or not in English. You can try and find an instance or community that is primarily Chinese or multilingual or make one yourself. I know hosting a whole instance isn't for everyone though. Alternati...

Alternatively you could just use a platform without voting like mastodon or ice shrimp/miskey etc.

There are other options. You can use an instance that disables downvotes. PieFed even allows you to disable downvotes per community instead of per instance.

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ㄖㄨㄖㄙ祂 retrolemmy.com rursta@retrolemmy.com
Joined: 2026-04-24
#7 · (edited) Quote Reply

You made a simplified Chinese language post to an English-speaking Canadian instance's community. Rule 9 on their community specifically says you should use the original source UNLESS it is paywalled or not in English. You can try and find an instance or community that is primarily Chinese or multilingual or make one yourself. I know hosting a whole instance isn't for everyone though. Alternati...

You're aware that 1) Canadians have lots of Chinese readers, 2) those are original sources 3) I included the English steam link with it's ACE localization?

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ㄖㄨㄖㄙ祂 retrolemmy.com rursta@retrolemmy.com
Joined: 2026-04-24
#8 · Quote Reply

Lots of people are here from reddit, so the chances of them being very racist is quite high based just off that. Not to mention how bigoted and white focused the general tech space is, it was built by and thrives off of the white supremacist perspective. That's the real reason why alternative social media platforms don't take off, or when they do they just end up being absorbed by the exact sam...

you need to make bigots uncomfortable, and follow the doctrine of the intolerance paradox

So I am left with making the gayest most feminist anti-bigotted fork in history, and having army of anti-bigots making the downvoters uncomfortable.🤔

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ㄖㄨㄖㄙ祂 retrolemmy.com rursta@retrolemmy.com
Joined: 2026-04-24
#9 · Quote Reply

Here is the list of people who voted on the first one: https://lemvotes.org/post/retrolemmy.com/post/38774589 And the second one: https://lemvotes.org/post/lemmy.zip/post/65659001 @ShadowDragon@discuss.tchncs.de downvoted the first and upvoted the second within 2 minutes of one another. Perhaps you can ask them their thoughts?

if we are going with @diocesegoldmine@sh.itjust.works’s strategy, we need to make these bigots uncomfortable.

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nocturne slrpnk.net nocturne@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-06-13
#10 · Quote Reply

You're aware that 1) Canadians have lots of Chinese readers, 2) those are original sources 3) I included the English steam link with it's ACE localization?

Original source unless it is not in English, or post in English.

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ㄖㄨㄖㄙ祂 retrolemmy.com rursta@retrolemmy.com
Joined: 2026-04-24
#11 · Quote Reply

Original source unless it is not in English, or post in English.

Is the Steam link not in English?

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nocturne slrpnk.net nocturne@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-06-13
#12 · Quote Reply

Is the Steam link not in English?

Which cannot be seen while scrolling, nor can you tell what the stream link is.

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AwesomeLowlander sh.itjust.works AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-07-12
#13 · (edited) Quote Reply

Are the languages of the posts getting tagged correctly? Most readers will not see foreign language posts by default UNLESS the poster failed to tag the language, in which case it's on them.

Edit: Looking at the posts OP linked, they were tagged English while being foreign language. That's blatantly wrong, and I would have downvoted them too.

(Before you call me racist, I'm a Chinese guy).

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farmgineer nord.pub farmgineer@nord.pub
Joined: 2026-04-25
#14 · (edited) Quote Reply

I wonder if people thought it was just a bot/spam since they couldn't read it (presumably). (Edit for clarity: rather than being some intentional attack on non-US varieties of English (though the server is Canadian not US)).

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GreenKnight23 lemmy.world GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-21
#15 · Quote Reply

if we are going with @diocesegoldmine@sh.itjust.works’s strategy, we need to make these bigots uncomfortable.

calling them bigots seems a bit premature.

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ShadowDragon discuss.tchncs.de ShadowDragon@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-12
#16 · Quote Reply

Here is the list of people who voted on the first one: https://lemvotes.org/post/retrolemmy.com/post/38774589 And the second one: https://lemvotes.org/post/lemmy.zip/post/65659001 @ShadowDragon@discuss.tchncs.de downvoted the first and upvoted the second within 2 minutes of one another. Perhaps you can ask them their thoughts?

I have no issue with non American English (it's not my native tongue), but I don't think Chinese is English and the post you linked was tagged as one. The timing is just the way the posts showed up in my feed.

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