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It's hard to forget, but if you want a state you aren't a communist
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Fifrok discuss.tchncs.de Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-12
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freagle lemmy.ml frisbird@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-11-24
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It's hard to forget, but the communist analysis is that the state emerges from material social conditions and that if your goal is to abolish the state it must be through the changing of material social conditions that are entwined with the existence of a state in the present. Which is why it's a doctrine of the process of liberating and not "push the communism button please"

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Fifrok discuss.tchncs.de Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-12
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It's hard to forget, but the communist analysis is that the state emerges from material social conditions and that if your goal is to abolish the state it must be through the changing of material social conditions that are entwined with the existence of a state in the present. Which is why it's a doctrine of the process of liberating and not "push the communism button please"

Yeah I know, this is just bait for that one tankie that has been posting cringe lately

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alapakala quokk.au alapakala@quokk.au
Joined: 2026-03-16
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Yeah I know, this is just bait for that one tankie that has been posting cringe lately

Did they take it?

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Commiunism lemmy.dbzer0.com commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-05-20
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Counterpoint - there are no communists alive, for they have died in the past actually fighting for the cause. All you have right now are online larpers (me included), real life groups grifting (i.e. trots whose whole existence is to sell stuff and get their money up) or book clubs pretending to be revolutionary. There's no real working class movement, the class is still reeling from defeat a century ago, ML necrophilia and red scares.

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qevlarr lemmy.world qevlarr@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
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Yeah I know, this is just bait for that one tankie that has been posting cringe lately

Oh yeah thanks. I thought this became a tankie space but now I checked again it looks like it's just one account

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Fifrok discuss.tchncs.de Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-12
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Did they take it?

no :(

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anistorian lemmy.world anistorian@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-10
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Yeah I know, this is just bait for that one tankie that has been posting cringe lately

Wait. What did I miss ?

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Fifrok discuss.tchncs.de Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-12
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Wait. What did I miss ?

nothing at all really, some "Marxist"-Leninist has been posting apologist stuff lately and calling everyone even a bit libertarian shit libs

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The D Quuuuuill slrpnk.net Quill7513@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-06-26
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no :(

the prolific OP posters in this community mostly only comment on theis own posts

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chaitae3 lemmy.world chaitae3@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-04-08
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Holy shit I did not know about that Furr guy

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Juice midwest.social Juice@midwest.social
Joined: 2024-04-24
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Holy shit I did not know about that Furr guy

Wait till you find out about Gabriel Rockhill

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ironycanal lemmy.dbzer0.com ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-05-15
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Counterpoint - there are no communists alive, for they have died in the past actually fighting for the cause. All you have right now are online larpers (me included), real life groups grifting (i.e. trots whose whole existence is to sell stuff and get their money up) or book clubs pretending to be revolutionary. There's no real working class movement, the class is still reeling from defeat a ce...

Hey, I'm not a grifter. I don't benefit.

I'm not a book club. Don't have friends, haven't read books.

And I'm not a larper because the internet isn't real life and I don't do anything else.

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commie lemmy.dbzer0.com commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-05
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Counterpoint - there are no communists alive, for they have died in the past actually fighting for the cause. All you have right now are online larpers (me included), real life groups grifting (i.e. trots whose whole existence is to sell stuff and get their money up) or book clubs pretending to be revolutionary. There's no real working class movement, the class is still reeling from defeat a ce...

larp means live action role play. the opposite of online.

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Commiunism lemmy.dbzer0.com commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-05-20
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larp means live action role play. the opposite of online.

Barely anyone uses the word to refer to it's original meaning now, even when it comes to real life. Vast majority of what people would call "larp" isn't even deliberate roleplaying but rather delusions of grandeur or shit nobody cares about

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