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This has been complained about for-fucking-ever. Why'd they suddenly decide to do it now? They must be losing more customers than I realized.

Lol yep seeing these moves look more pathetic than humble. When some one tells you who they are listen.

I need exactly zero. Windows is just so bad.

I don’t even know what this is. Reboots have been once a month for a long time now.

Worked in IT a long while ago and Windows updates were a waking nightmare. Good to see that they're trying to compete with superior operating systems 10 years too late

So when do we get to decide when the update happens? Hate coming into the office and seeing the 'lets get you started' screen for the 15th time.

Wow! They're finally doing the bare minimum.

That's not feasible. Many Linux distros reboot to upgrade, too, because replacing essential software while it is running can cause instability.

Obviously, loosing a chunk of market to LMCE, Bazzite, Pop_OS!, Arch, etc.

Just wait til GabeN drops a nuke in a face of a Steam Machine. Bet we gonna see a humongous influx of users in Linux space after. Gaming companies already are trying to adapt to the possible market swing. Once software marked goes Linux, Microsoft will go bankrupt in a jiffy.

I've played an entire day (>12 hours) without a reboot after updating the kernel, systemd and drivers. It's certainly possible, just not recommended.

On windows, it's not possible at all, no matter if you know what you do or you don't.

It would be nice if Fedora did that as well.

that would have been a lot cooler before they pissed and shat all over their consumer base.

I wonder when Microsoft will consider making windows not suck?

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I mean, people have been asking for better control of Windows updates since Windows XP, so that's like what? 25 years? It took them to realize that that's something customers wanted?

Having an operating system that does not suck should be on the very, very top of their priority list.

We're not concerned about features.

What we want is no AI, or opt-in AI only. We don't want your edge bullshit. I don't mind the browser itself. I don't mind that it comes pre-installed on Windows. That's perfectly fine.

But when you know people hate your browser so much that the only way you can get people to use it is by rewiring your other programs to sneakily launch edge?

And you keep moving the thing that disables that?

and re-enabling it with updates so that people have to go and find where it was enabled to disable it all over again?

And this happens two or more times a year?

Fuck you, Microsoft. Completely and totally fuck you. Fuck you to death. I hope you burn to the ground. I hope everyone in the building gets caught inside of it and burns to the ground with you.

I hope all of your software is completely lost, all of your source code is permanently destroyed, I hope that Mother Nature salts the Earth with you, and I hope that any person that has ever been a c-rank level manager at Microsoft or higher gets space rabies.

I hope all of that because you cannot understand the very, very simple concept of consent.

Microslop is a software rapist.

Which makes sense since Bill Gates is likely a rapist, and at least guaranteed to be a whoremonger and the kind of person who will infect his wife with an STD that he caught from a Russian whore and then try to sneakily give her drugs to cure them so that he doesn't get caught because he's a little bitty pussy boy who can't stand up to the pressure of dealing with the consequences of his own actions.

Once again, I don't hate the products themselves. I hate the fact that you're forcing them on us. Fucking stop. Consent is always key in everything that involves more than one person.

I'm glad that it does not.

Most Fedora updates are very small and very quickly installed.

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If I'm not completely mistaken, the kernel (and maybe other packages too) are not "hot-swapped" during runtime. You're not using the new kernel until you performed a reboot.

Yeah. Live patching is someting distros/service providers charge a lot of money for to get right, and requires at least some knowedge about every patch you apply.

And it's something no one operating a PC that regularly reboots needs. Idc if my running kernel is one version older than the one I installed, it doesn't impact games at all. The only exception is loading modules, which is something you rarely do in normal operation. And for the only module I stumbled upon that I regularly loaded after boot, v4l2loopback (or similar), which I needed for streaming my phone's camera to OBS, I added it to /etc/modules-load.d/v4l2loopback.conf.

Even my server's kernel is sometimes out of sync. I only reboot programs I actually want to be up-to-date at that moment. All others can wait for some weekend or another.

Don't recall even having multiple reboots for updates on Fedora. It get's done in 1 reboot.

Wow, what pioneers. What titans of the tech industry. So brave of them.

The PC reboots multiple times and every time I have to type LUKS password. It's really annoying.

Microsoft knows the desktop PC market has never been more ripe for disruption than now.

If I were a Palo Alto tech bro, I'd avoid AI anything and go back to the original Bill Gates playbook of taking open source OS and streamlining it with a better suite of office applications. That will actually make money.

Same energy as the time iphone added dual-sim support after android having that for years

For two updates?

I bet Microsoft has been sitting on this for a while so that they could pull it out when public sentiment was especially low. It has strong "speed-up loop" vibes.

You know shit is bad when something like this makes a headline.

Ah, I see what you mean. If you select "install updates and reboot" it will reboot, install the updates then reboot second time normally.

Linux only requires 1...