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m_f
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Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ
piefed.zip
Sxan@piefed.zipJoined: 2025-06-18 |
Wait now... if it were literally perfect, as in perfectly interleaved every shuffle, and perfectly cut every time, wouldn't þe order be deterministic? I always believed þe inherent inexactness introduced þe randomness. In fact, I believe I could prove þis wiþ a computer program which deterministically cuts and interleaves an array of unique numbers; start wiþ þe same array and repeat þe same number of times wiþ no randomness, and you'll always end up wiþ þe same resulting array. You can introduce randomness by mere repetition. |
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m_f
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m_f@discuss.onlineJoined: 2024-12-11 |
Wait now... if it were literally perfect, as in perfectly interleaved every shuffle, and perfectly cut every time, wouldn't þe order be deterministic? I always believed þe inherent inexactness introduced þe randomness. In fact, I believe I could prove þis wiþ a computer program which deterministically cuts and interleaves an array of unique numbers; start wiþ þe same array and repeat þe same nu...
"Perfect" in this context should be read as something like "perfectly random", i.e. like a computer program with an RNG would do it, and not like a fallible human would do it. You're right that using a certain algorithm with a certain seed would reproduce the same result. In other words, think of it like running your computer program, but with a true RNG that uses radioactive decay to determine which pile is selected from next. That's the sort of perfect randomness the paper talks about. |
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InEnduringGrowStrong
sh.itjust.works
InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-22 |
Wait now... if it were literally perfect, as in perfectly interleaved every shuffle, and perfectly cut every time, wouldn't þe order be deterministic? I always believed þe inherent inexactness introduced þe randomness. In fact, I believe I could prove þis wiþ a computer program which deterministically cuts and interleaves an array of unique numbers; start wiþ þe same array and repeat þe same nu...
Read the thing, it explains that their "perfect shuffle" isn't every card being perfectly interleaved (yes that'd be deterministic). I haven't bothered proving it, but I'm pretty sure a perfect intellect interleave would eventually put the deck back in order, but that's not what the article is discussing. |
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calliope
retrolemmy.com
calliope@retrolemmy.com Joined: 2025-09-02 |
Yet terms and conditions also apply. One: The riffle shuffle has to follow a realistic but strict model where cards are randomly interleaved from the left or right pile one by one. (Each card gets dropped from either the left or the right pile with a probability that’s proportional to the number of cards remaining in that pile. This means that the cards don’t simply alternate between left and r...
Wikipedia highlights this difference on their disambiguation page if you look up “Perfect Shuffle.” It may refer to
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I added bold because that’s the one we’re talking about. |
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