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sanitation lemmy.today sanitation@lemmy.today
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Broadfern lemmy.world Broadfern@lemmy.world
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Stop fucking subscribing to these game services and giving them money 🤦

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Korhaka sopuli.xyz Korhaka@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-01-14
#3 · (edited) Quote Reply

Stop fucking subscribing to these game services and giving them money 🤦

Currently on zero game subscriptions and only play a few games that even feature a subscription option but it doesn't seem worth it.

Enlisted/War Thunder - bonus XP? Already got a Kar98k/Panzer IV, wtf else would I want as a rifle/tank in a WW2 game?

Gloria victis - more bonus xp? You can reach level cap in a week or two.

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HeyJoe lemmy.world HeyJoe@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
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Idk, it has its purpose and for those reasons I am ok with what you lose in favor of playing what I want right now. I have a top tier subscription to PSN+, which is broken and have only paid $80 (I think its around $150 now which I would possibly have to reconsider if it was that much) for the year and had it at that price for multiple years now which makes it better. I get that I dont own the gamss, but as someone who is older and less time to play I really dont spend any money on new games anymore and the backlog of games I want to play is so big that this servive always has several games I always wanted to play anyway. Last year I purchased 1 new game and so far this year I have managed to not buy anything yet. This service allows me to continue playing lots of stuff for very cheap. Sure I dont own them, but you dont own the digital purchases either and even physical purchases are doing their best to make sure you cant just play the game either. Although shout out to Adventures of Elliot which is apparently one of the few new games you can play offline and still zero updates for the game if you have the physical copy.

Basically at my age I could really care less that I own these games anymore. I have my collection of the past and ill cherish it even more. The only part I miss is reselling them, where you could sometimes make your money back or more on a game.

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bridgeenjoyer sh.itjust.works bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-06
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Stop fucking subscribing to these game services and giving them money 🤦

While we are at it, stop fucking subscribing to shitty services!!! Man, I wish normies would see THEY ARE THE PROBLEM. It is 100% their fault we have a technoligarchy with 3 big tech corpos controlling the entire world.

I have 2 subscriptions. Mullvad and icedrive. Then I donate to Foss stuff and the archive several times a year.

If everyone did this, we would have an actual tech utopia (joking, but it'd sure be better than now)

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Telorand reddthat.com Telorand@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-07-09
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Idk, it has its purpose and for those reasons I am ok with what you lose in favor of playing what I want right now. I have a top tier subscription to PSN+, which is broken and have only paid $80 (I think its around $150 now which I would possibly have to reconsider if it was that much) for the year and had it at that price for multiple years now which makes it better. I get that I dont own the ...

Basically at my age I could really care less that I own these games anymore. I have my collection of the past and ill cherish it even more.

Great, so "fuck you, got mine?" Everybody else who wasn't born long enough ago to own physical games (or who can afford to pay inflated "collectible" prices) is just shit outta luck?

Apathy is the best outcome these ghouls could hope for. "I don't care if I own anything, and I'm content with that," is the rental economy the ultracapitalists so badly want.

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HeyJoe lemmy.world HeyJoe@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
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Basically at my age I could really care less that I own these games anymore. I have my collection of the past and ill cherish it even more. Great, so "fuck you, got mine?" Everybody else who wasn't born long enough ago to own physical games (or who can afford to pay inflated "collectible" prices) is just shit outta luck? Apathy is the best outcome these ghouls could hope for. "I don't care if I...

No, not really. I was just stating that it is not a big deal for everyone as this article seems to make it feel like. I dont even care about the shit i have to be honest, once i die its worthless anyway because im sure whoever obtains it sells it for peanuts anyway since they wont know better. I guess I should be angry at my parents and grandparents for being able to buy a house for 10k and a car for $500. Sorry i was born a few years before you and things are slightly different making my opinion about it invalid.

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grue lemmy.world grue@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
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While we are at it, stop fucking subscribing to shitty services!!! Man, I wish normies would see THEY ARE THE PROBLEM. It is 100% their fault we have a technoligarchy with 3 big tech corpos controlling the entire world. I have 2 subscriptions. Mullvad and icedrive. Then I donate to Foss stuff and the archive several times a year. If everyone did this, we would have an actual tech utopia (joking...

The failure of the government to outlaw predatory business models is the problem. The consumers duped into subscribing are the victims.

You will never, ever rein in the corporations with boycotts alone. To argue for it as a "solution" alone is to be a useful idiot for the corpos.

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rozodru piefed.world rozodru@piefed.world
Joined: 2026-02-06
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unless you have physical copies of the game you already own nothing. If steam decides to ban your account what then?

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undrwater lemmy.world undrwater@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-14
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I remember getting "okay Boomer"-ed when pointing this out several years ago. I'm on the cusp of Boomer and X.

Are those of you who are younger getting the picture, or is it still we older folks complaining?

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undrwater lemmy.world undrwater@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-14
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No, not really. I was just stating that it is not a big deal for everyone as this article seems to make it feel like. I dont even care about the shit i have to be honest, once i die its worthless anyway because im sure whoever obtains it sells it for peanuts anyway since they wont know better. I guess I should be angry at my parents and grandparents for being able to buy a house for 10k and a c...

I think the more philosophical issue is that there is a class of people who are the "owners" and a class who are the "users".

The "owners" have a whole ton of power over what we use. When ownership was decentralized, so was the power.

We're talking about games here, but this can generalize to do many other things.

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yermaw sh.itjust.works yermaw@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-07-10
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I remember getting "okay Boomer"-ed when pointing this out several years ago. I'm on the cusp of Boomer and X. Are those of you who are younger getting the picture, or is it still we older folks complaining?

Shut up grandad my horse armor is sweet you just jelly cause you dont understand

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undrwater lemmy.world undrwater@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-14
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Shut up grandad my horse armor is sweet you just jelly cause you dont understand

Boy! In my day we paid for 8 bit armor and LIKED it!

Get off my lawn!

Thank you for the giggle. 😉

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Olhonestjim lemmy.world Olhonestjim@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-28
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Tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna play my vinyl records, read my actual books, and play my backlog of purchased games. I'm gonna keep gardening and puttering about. Maybe make some trinkets.

These megacorpos haven't made anything to catch my interest in a good long while. Fuck em.

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godsammitdam lemmy.zip godsammitdam@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-05-05
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No, not really. I was just stating that it is not a big deal for everyone as this article seems to make it feel like. I dont even care about the shit i have to be honest, once i die its worthless anyway because im sure whoever obtains it sells it for peanuts anyway since they wont know better. I guess I should be angry at my parents and grandparents for being able to buy a house for 10k and a c...
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HeyJoe lemmy.world HeyJoe@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
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I just find it crazy what people can come up with about how I feel based off a couple of lines about how i feel on video game subscriptions. I dont care because i dont have the time or money to care about video games anymore like that. Instead of me buying 1 game for the price of my subscription i am playing most of the best games that came out over the past 5 years and right now thats all that works for me, thats it. My collection which i think people think is some super impressive thing is just 2 cardboard boxes filled with a few game consoles that i never sold and most of it got thrown out last fall due to a flood so this is all i got left. Im pretty sure everyone here could buy what i have still for not much more than what i originally paid for it. I also am not rich, and most of the stuff you all say i agree with. I obviously do not want to see video games go the way its going but i am pretty sure nobody will be able to change any of that. Im probably more broke than most of you arguing with me, i mean i just filed for bankrupcy a month ago and go to court next week to finalize everything, but yeah sure fuck me and my 1 opinion about how this 1 subscription service works for me right now and i actually enjoy it. Like me not paying for it will change the industry for everyone.

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🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 pawb.social Kolanaki@pawb.social
Joined: 2024-10-06
#17 · (edited) Quote Reply

unless you have physical copies of the game you already own nothing. If steam decides to ban your account what then?

Even with a physical copy they could nuke your ability to play it. Remember The Crew? Even physical copies were affected.

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Professorozone lemmy.world Professorozone@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-14
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Like everything else.

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SaharaMaleikuhm feddit.org SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-23
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unless you have physical copies of the game you already own nothing. If steam decides to ban your account what then?

Piracy, of course.

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GreenKnight23 lemmy.world GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-21
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Tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna play my vinyl records, read my actual books, and play my backlog of purchased games. I'm gonna keep gardening and puttering about. Maybe make some trinkets. These megacorpos haven't made anything to catch my interest in a good long while. Fuck em.

are you me?

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bridgeenjoyer sh.itjust.works bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-06
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The failure of the government to outlaw predatory business models is the problem. The consumers duped into subscribing are the victims. You will never, ever rein in the corporations with boycotts alone. To argue for it as a "solution" alone is to be a useful idiot for the corpos.

For sure

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dewritoninja pawb.social dewritoninja@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-06-12
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unless you have physical copies of the game you already own nothing. If steam decides to ban your account what then?

GOG buy GOG. Physical media can get damaged beyond repair, and every time you use it you damage it more. Plus a lot of physical media has DRM that makes making backups an absolute pain.

If you care about owning games and games preservation buy from gog, you can do anything you want with the installers.

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Aceticon lemmy.dbzer0.com Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-12-06
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I've been gaming for over 3 decades.

For the last couple of years (a decade at most) my experience is that most AAA titles are oddly unsatisfactory compared to many Indie titles - for example I get more fun from playing something like Valheim than I do playing God Of War.

Further, almost "infinite replayability" titles (the kind that you play until you're fed up and then come back a year later and they're fun again) are either Indies or old titles - things like Factorio, Rimworld, Valheim, The Sims, Oxygen Not Included, Project Zomboid and so on.

I get the impression that most modern AAA titles are made to be "experiences", which in practice tends to make them oddly constrained and linear in terms of gameplay (something which sometimes is compensated with extra grindy gameplay), which personally I find not really all that fun.

Anyways, all this to say that at least for this old salty dog of a gamer I don't quite see how I can be pushed to a pure game subscription model given that there are A LOT of indie titles and old games which are a lot more fun than the kind of titles that would end up as subscription exclusives.

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A_Random_Idiot lemmy.world A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
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I've been gaming for over 3 decades. For the last couple of years (a decade at most) my experience is that most AAA titles are oddly unsatisfactory compared to many Indie titles - for example I get more fun from playing something like Valheim than I do playing God Of War. Further, almost "infinite replayability" titles (the kind that you play until you're fed up and then come back a year later ...

not to mention, AAA games, for all their bloated budgets and ridiculous number of people working on them.. often come out broken messes that are released 6-18 months too early and require a massive crunch campaign of panic patches to stem the bleeding once its released and the hype dies from the shit show.

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