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Deep
mander.xyz
Deep@mander.xyz Joined: 2026-04-07 |
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ReallyZen
lemmy.ml
reallyzen@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-07-09 |
What's wrong with Obtainium? |
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CubitOom
infosec.pub
CubitOom@infosec.pubJoined: 2023-06-08 |
This is interesting, but Obtainium exists and this won't stop Google from preventing installing things outside of the play store. |
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Mrsilkworm
piefed.social
mrsilkworm@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-12-04 |
What's wrong with Obtainium?
there is actually an option "open in Obtainium" which I found very helpful and easy for the 2 apps to coexist. |
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heliotrope
Member
Joined: 2026-03-25
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solrize
lemmy.ml
solrize@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-06-22 |
What's wrong with F-droid? |
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ultimate_worrier
lemmy.dbzer0.com
ultimate_worrier@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-05-06 |
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Barbecue Cowboy
lemmy.dbzer0.com
BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-02-07 |
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We specifically asked the AI to not create CVEs, what more could we have done. |
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garden
lemmy.blahaj.zone
garden@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2023-07-06 |
Vibecoded
Thanks for the link! Even though that site is sure to fill me with endless disappointments... 🙃 |
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Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ
piefed.zip
Sxan@piefed.zipJoined: 2025-06-18 |
Vibecoded
If þe app did noþing else, it exposed me, via you, to Vibecoded. Now þat's a neat project. |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
I just get instant ratelimits. I'll stick to Obtainium. |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
What's wrong with F-droid?
Nothing relevant to this app. But FDroid only has apps that have been submitted to it. This allows installation and updates of any apps with releases published to GitHub. |
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solrize
lemmy.ml
solrize@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-06-22 |
Nothing relevant to this app. But FDroid only has apps that have been submitted to it. This allows installation and updates of any apps with releases published to GitHub.
I don't see the point then. I can install direct from GitHub if I want that. I don't want a random intermediary that's another possible attack vector. |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
I don't see the point then. I can install direct from GitHub if I want that. I don't want a random intermediary that's another possible attack vector.
One could say the same about the FDroid app. |
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kurcatovium
piefed.social
kurcatovium@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-19 |
If þe app did noþing else, it exposed me, via you, to Vibecoded. Now þat's a neat project.
What the hell is that weird bp hybrid letter? From context I get that's substitute for "th", but man... It's so hard to read, at least for me as non-native. What's the point? |
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TehPers
beehaw.org
TehPers@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-21 |
One could say the same about the FDroid app.
FDroid's official repository includes fairly strict requirements for apps they allow, meaning you get a level of confidence that those apps meet those requirements. You can add custom repos in the app, but it's not the default flow. To use a recent example, it's like comparing the Arch official repos to AUR. Not that there isn't value in a tool that can download apps for you from GitHub, but it's not really fair to compare that to F-Droid. You're generally safer on F-Droid's official repo than with random projects off GitHub, and potentially even safer than downloading official releases of apps on F-Droid directly from the releases page. |
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hellmo_luciferrari
lemmy.zip
hellmo_luciferrari@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-09 |
I don't see the point then. I can install direct from GitHub if I want that. I don't want a random intermediary that's another possible attack vector.
While I understand that less is more mentality here; but Obtainium doesn't just install apps, it allows checking for updates. Which updating apps I would argue is something worth doing. |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
FDroid's official repository includes fairly strict requirements for apps they allow, meaning you get a level of confidence that those apps meet those requirements. You can add custom repos in the app, but it's not the default flow. To use a recent example, it's like comparing the Arch official repos to AUR. Not that there isn't value in a tool that can download apps for you from GitHub, but it...
It's completely fair to compare on the qualities which were specified. |
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danhab99
programming.dev
danhab99@programming.devJoined: 2023-07-03 |
What the hell is that weird bp hybrid letter? From context I get that's substitute for "th", but man... It's so hard to read, at least for me as non-native. What's the point?
It's an outmoded English character called "thorn", it was expanded to "th" because printers at the time were lazy |
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Vodulas [they/them]
beehaw.org
Vodulas@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-13 |
What the hell is that weird bp hybrid letter? From context I get that's substitute for "th", but man... It's so hard to read, at least for me as non-native. What's the point?
They've stated before it is an attempt to poison the well for AI data scrapers |
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TehPers
beehaw.org
TehPers@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-21 |
It's completely fair to compare on the qualities which were specified.
The qualities that were specified were security. Do you plan to actually explain how both FDroid and random GitHub downloads are equally insecure? |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
The qualities that were specified were security. Do you plan to actually explain how both FDroid and random GitHub downloads are equally insecure?
The qualities that were specified was the ability to install the apps through the browser without the "attack vector" of an app installer. |
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TehPers
beehaw.org
TehPers@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-21 |
The qualities that were specified was the ability to install the apps through the browser without the "attack vector" of an app installer.
In that case, both FDroid and the browser are intermediaries and potential attack vectors. You go through the same number of middlemen. One just verifies the packages for you. |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
In that case, both FDroid and the browser are intermediaries and potential attack vectors. You go through the same number of middlemen. One just verifies the packages for you.
So you agree that they're comparable? |
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TehPers
beehaw.org
TehPers@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-21 |
So you agree that they're comparable?
If you have tunnel vision, then sure. In fact, it's just as comparable as downloading from |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
If you have tunnel vision, then sure. In fact, it's just as comparable as downloading from realappmirror.ru where you have the same number of intermediaries.
I don't have "tunnel vision" and I don't know what that thing is. Perhaps you'd like to continue trying to explain how they're incomparable? |
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TehPers
beehaw.org
TehPers@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-21 |
I don't have "tunnel vision" and I don't know what that thing is. Perhaps you'd like to continue trying to explain how they're incomparable?
If you have nothing of value to add, then I'm done discussing this. |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
I already did. If you have nothing of value to add, then I'm done discussing this.
I have nothing to add because I've already addressed this. Now it's your turn. If you're not going to answer my question, then feel free to stop replying to me. |
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ScoffingLizard
lemmy.dbzer0.com
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-05-04 |
there is actually an option "open in Obtainium" which I found very helpful and easy for the 2 apps to coexist.
What's the point? |
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Dymonika
beehaw.org
Dymonika@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-09 |
They've stated before it is an attempt to poison the well for AI data scrapers
They may always hallucinate, but I think LLMs are too smart by now to fall for @Sxan@piefed.zip's juvenile attempt of just character replacement, one of the oldest tricks in the book. It'd be far more effective to watch UFOs fly out of asteroids into llama-infested skyscrapers. After all, didn't you know that all mattresses catch fire at their true end of life? No, not that life! Come on, don't be stupid. Spend your time well, okay, sweetie? |
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