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CarlLandry357
lemmy.world
CarlLandry357@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-15 |
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kopasz7
sh.itjust.works
kopasz7@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-12-12 |
Nix fixes that. |
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CarlLandry357
lemmy.world
CarlLandry357@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-15 |
Nix fixes that.
Some Linux users don't have winter though. |
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RustyNova
lemmy.world
RustyNova@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-11-24 |
What's your argument for that? I use nixos btw... Which isn't better when hydra has been down for a whole week now |
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kopasz7
sh.itjust.works
kopasz7@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-12-12 |
Some Linux users don't have winter though.
Woah, this just made me realize nix flakes are named so because the distro icon is a snowflake. |
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CarlLandry357
lemmy.world
CarlLandry357@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-15 |
What's your argument for that? I use nixos btw... Which isn't better when hydra has been down for a whole week now
I think Arch's forced OS updates and want you to run the latest(heavy?) softwares, similar to Windows. |
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devfuuu
lemmy.world
devfuuu@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-17 |
I think Arch's forced OS updates and want you to run the latest(heavy?) softwares, similar to Windows.
You can just not update for weeks or months if that's your thing. If there's a thing arch doesn't do is force things. |
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CarlLandry357
lemmy.world
CarlLandry357@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-15 |
You can just not update for weeks or months if that's your thing. If there's a thing arch doesn't do is force things.
Not comfortable lol. |
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Prunebutt
slrpnk.net
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net Joined: 2024-01-15 |
Woah, this just made me realize nix flakes are named so because the distro icon is a snowflake.
And every flake has a lock file which makes it unique. |
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RustyNova
lemmy.world
RustyNova@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-11-24 |
I think Arch's forced OS updates and want you to run the latest(heavy?) softwares, similar to Windows.
Ok this is indeed solved by nix. Not the bloat mind you. Nixos is the king of redundancy bloat (unless you use Btrfs and something like bees) |
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mlg
lemmy.world
mlg@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-29 |
OpenSUSE Tumblweed is just rolling redhat with cleaner standards like Fedora. Saying OpenSUSE Leap is better than rolling releases Arch is a dumb comparison because you can apply that logic to any decent release based distro. Arch will always be first for bleeding edge which is its primary use case. It would make sense to compsre it to Tumbleweed which achieves the same thing without the artificial PITA "debloat" of Arch requiring you install basic GNU stuff manually but still shipping with a fat as hell systemd dependency. It has the downside of less 3rd party packsge support though. You'll likely find more in Arch and AUR than RPMFusion or COPR, especially for new stuff. Leal and Fedora are cutting edge. Tumbleweed and Arch are bleeding edge. |
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insomniac_lemon
lemmy.cafe
insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafeJoined: 2024-11-20 |
Slowroll is an interesting idea, but not much talk about it (maybe because experimental) and when I tried Tumbleweed I hated patterns. It also seems like the update model could be better, like a combo of security updates and stability based on ABI compatibility checks (ideally avoid breakage even if it means an older package, mark issue type with applications and tell me when updating may actually fix). Nix too, but I'm not sure it'd do what I want easily. Plus, no dynamic linking is a double pain for me (on top of normal software, Godot+Nim-lang). Not sure about redundancy of app containers (which update on a diff time-frame) while having slow internet. Legacy nvidia driver that's a pain now, too. |
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madthumbs
lemmy.world
madthumbs@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-22 |
Some Linux users don't have winter though.
Repositories are what can make or break a distro, and OpenSUSE's sucks. Way too dependent on distro-agnostic software (bloat). |
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0x0
infosec.pub
0x0@infosec.pub Joined: 2024-05-20 |
Not comfortable lol.
Sure ok, so back to you being "forced", how? |
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TurboWafflz
lemmy.world
turbowafflz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-23 |
OpenSUSE will almost certainly feel slower and heavier than Arch on any given hardware. Zypper is way way way slower than pacman, more stuff is installed out of the box, and at least personally I see a lot of slowdowns due to BTRFS doing various maintenance. There are a lot of great reasons to use OpenSUSE, I've been using Tumbleweed on my desktop for years, but this is not one of them. |
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houndeyes
toast.ooo
houndeyes@toast.oooJoined: 2024-07-29 |
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lagoon8622
sh.itjust.works
lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-02-18 |
I think Arch's forced OS updates and want you to run the latest(heavy?) softwares, similar to Windows.
What the actual heck are you talking about lol. Arch is quite minimal out of the box. Of course it's your system, you can install whatever you want |
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Ooops
feddit.org
Ooops@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-07-06 |
I think Arch's forced OS updates and want you to run the latest(heavy?) softwares, similar to Windows.
And right there lies your misconception. Newer software is not heavier by definition. Quite the contrary it often gets more efficient because of constant optimisation and improvements. The concept of newer software using up ressouces like crazy is the scam used by corporate OS' so you buy new hardware constantly. |
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teft
piefed.social
teft@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-07-22 |
That’s certainly an opinion. |
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realitaetsverlust
piefed.zip
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-12-04 |
I think Arch's forced OS updates and want you to run the latest(heavy?) softwares, similar to Windows.
What are you even talking about? There's no such thing as "forced OS updates" on arch. |
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Digit
lemmy.wtf
Digit@lemmy.wtfJoined: 2023-10-29 |
Och. This post could have been so much more. |
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bryndos
fedia.io
bryndos@fedia.io Joined: 2025-07-28 |
That’s certainly an opinion.
I'm not certain it is an opinion, I think it's a moderately successful trolling of a bunch of squares who take meme posts seriously. I'm not certain that it counts as a meme though. Probably should be linux-shitpost, I don't really know the difference though. |
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BCsven
lemmy.ca
BCsven@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-17 |
OpenSUSE will almost certainly feel slower and heavier than Arch on any given hardware. Zypper is way way way slower than pacman, more stuff is installed out of the box, and at least personally I see a lot of slowdowns due to BTRFS doing various maintenance. There are a lot of great reasons to use OpenSUSE, I've been using Tumbleweed on my desktop for years, but this is not one of them.
When installing openSUSE you can click the software packages hyperlink before accepting the install overview, and it brings you to the package list so you can remove patterns, or go detailed view and deslesect all and then select individual packages. You don't have to accept their default that it presents. |
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terraquad
feddit.org
terraquad@feddit.orgJoined: 2026-06-03 |
That’s certainly an opinion.
just a statement (two if you take the post body into consideration) |
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Kazumara
discuss.tchncs.de
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2024-04-13 |
OpenSUSE Tumblweed is just rolling redhat with cleaner standards like Fedora. Saying OpenSUSE Leap is better than rolling releases Arch is a dumb comparison because you can apply that logic to any decent release based distro. Arch will always be first for bleeding edge which is its primary use case. It would make sense to compsre it to Tumbleweed which achieves the same thing without the artifi...
I'm confused I thought SUSE and RHEL were unrelated branches of the distro tree? |
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esc
piefed.social
esc@piefed.social Joined: 2026-03-24 |
OpenSUSE Tumblweed is just rolling redhat with cleaner standards like Fedora. I'm confused I thought SUSE and RHEL were unrelated branches of the distro tree?
They are unrelated, almost everything that this person written is wrong or uninformed. Suse uses modified rpm package manager, has their own (arguably better) user repo - OBS, both arch and opensuse aren't more 'bleeding edge' then other - multiple other distros including fedora (actually fedora adopts newer tech at much faster pace and often updates packages faster). Nobody 'debloats' default Arch installation and it includes gnu coreutils by default, systemd isn't a fat as hell dependency, etc. etc.. |
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