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A404
lemmy.dbzer0.com
A404@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2026-04-11 |
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disorderly
lemmy.world
disorderly@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-27 |
That is absolutely brutal. I really hope people are finding ways to escape the heat. Separately, this visualization is bad in a way I have never seen before: a scale of pink to dark red, where dark red actually represents 2 completely different numbers! |
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DarkCloud
lemmy.world
DarkCloud@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-19 |
The product of human activity, Donald Trump's deregulations, everyone trusting China with their manufacturing (given their own lax systems of regulation), and the rampant building of data centers. We are all partially guilty, and the phrase "fry in hell" is of our own making. |
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Davel23
fedia.io
Davel23@fedia.io Joined: 2024-03-16 |
That is absolutely brutal. I really hope people are finding ways to escape the heat. Separately, this visualization is bad in a way I have never seen before: a scale of pink to dark red, where dark red actually represents 2 completely different numbers!
There seems to be three different values for white. |
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Davel23
fedia.io
Davel23@fedia.io Joined: 2024-03-16 |
What is up with France? |
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A404
lemmy.dbzer0.com
A404@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2026-04-11 |
Where else could i cross-post this? |
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TropicalDingdong
lemmy.world
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-29 |
What a horrendous color map. |
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TropicalDingdong
lemmy.world
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-29 |
There seems to be three different values for white.
The real anarchy is the mapmakers use of hue. |
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Ledivin
lemmy.world
Ledivin@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-27 |
...so is northeastern France -8, 0, or +13? What a fucking stupid color scale |
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✺roguetrick✺
lemmy.world
roguetrick@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-16 |
There seems to be three different values for white.
And some of those green spots are damn close to using it. |
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Joined: 2023-04-24 |
@A404 States around the world absolutely fucking failed regarding Climate Change.Be it mitigation or prevention even the bare minimum was too much to ask for.Here in Germany activists even won a lawsuit upholding the law? To quote Proudhon : "Laws: We know what they are, and what they are worth! They are spider webs for the rich and mighty, steel chains for the poor and weak, fishing nets in the hands of government." |
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Homer1
lemmy.world
Homer1@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-11-10 |
...so is northeastern France -8, 0, or +13? What a fucking stupid color scale
Deviation to the average temperature. So its 13 K above the average. Edit: oh you were complaining about the colormap? Yeah its super shit |
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rockSlayer
lemmy.blahaj.zone
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-02-24 |
What a horrendous color map. The true anarchy in this post is the cartographers use of hue.
Exactly what I was thinking. There are 3 different off-white colors that indicate vastly different temperature variants. This map is incredibly ambiguous. Which white zones are -8° below average, roughly the same as average, or 13° above average? |
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Beehaw_Girl
beehaw.org
Beehaw_Girl@beehaw.org Joined: 2026-06-07 |
Europe needs to normalize air conditioning. I'll never forget the most miserable summer of my life was in germany. Summer gets hot there just like most other places, but in Europe, domiciles don't have AC 🥵 |
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terranoid
lemmy.cafe
terranoid@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2026-05-08 |
Where else could i cross-post this?
Somewhere they post horrendously bad data color choices |
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rockSlayer
lemmy.blahaj.zone
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-02-24 |
Where else could i cross-post this?
A better climate change map can be posted on Amongst others |
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TropicalDingdong
lemmy.world
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-29 |
Exactly what I was thinking. There are 3 different off-white colors that indicate vastly different temperature variants. This map is incredibly ambiguous. Which white zones are -8° below average, roughly the same as average, or 13° above average?
Like I don't have time to get into it cus I'm at work, but their use of hue is a non-function the color space. |
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valar
lemmy.ca
valar@lemmy.ca Joined: 2026-04-02 |
Possibly the worst color scale I've ever seen on a chart |
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floquant
lemmy.dbzer0.com
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-05-31 |
Exactly what I was thinking. There are 3 different off-white colors that indicate vastly different temperature variants. This map is incredibly ambiguous. Which white zones are -8° below average, roughly the same as average, or 13° above average?
The neighbouring colors are different though, so since it's not going to jump from +10 to -8 you can unequivocally tell. Honestly I think I hate this less than having 8 shades of slightly different red |
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floquant
lemmy.dbzer0.com
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-05-31 |
What is up with France?
Hot |
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floquant
lemmy.dbzer0.com
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-05-31 |
...so is northeastern France -8, 0, or +13? What a fucking stupid color scale
The color scale is definitely... a choice but it is not ambiguous. There is only one "path" that goes red, then black, then white. |
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Thisiswritteningerman
midwest.social
Thisiswritteningerman@midwest.social Joined: 2024-08-04 |
What a horrendous color map. The true anarchy in this post is the cartographers use of hue.
So MAYBE, and I'm pulling this out of my ass with no background here, but expectation is temperature doesn't jump, but flows as a gradient. |
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mysticpickle
lemmy.ca
mysticpickle@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-09-14 |
Should crosspost to !Cartographyanarchy@sh.itjust.works |
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wyldrstallyns
lemmy.dbzer0.com
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2026-05-16 |
Hunh. I'm betting that's the first time Le Mans has had something so massively impactful in common w/ Laredo, TX. 🫢 |
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JasonDJ
lemmy.zip
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip Joined: 2024-01-16 |
Wtf did the map burn a hole in France? |
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TropicalDingdong
lemmy.world
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-29 |
So MAYBE, and I'm pulling this out of my ass with no background here, but expectation is temperature doesn't jump, but flows as a gradient. Using France as the start, we've white fading to dark greys then reds, which is the hottest of the three white possibilities. As going hotter then that gets pink again, the top end is white in France. We then decrease down the scale until we get those. gree...
So there is a lot of work on this in color theory, and you can go deep into this.. Basically, their use of brightness within hue bins makes this a non-function. Notice how its gets whiter closer to 0 and closer to 13. If two values of Y can get plugged into a function and they both return 0 for the expected X term, thats a non-function. Temperature, or rather, difference in temperature from expected, which is whats being plotted here, is about divergence from normal. To fix this map, pick a divergent color scheme, center 0, then create bins at either a specific interval or at quantile intervals. Something like this: https://colorbrewer2.org/#type=diverging&scheme=RdYlBu&n=11 |
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AItoothbrush
lemmy.zip
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-06-12 |
While yes, a 14c deviation from average temperatures is fucking insane, so is this map. The scale is cooked. |
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Mac
mander.xyz
Mac@mander.xyz Joined: 2023-06-14 |
Exactly what I was thinking. There are 3 different off-white colors that indicate vastly different temperature variants. This map is incredibly ambiguous. Which white zones are -8° below average, roughly the same as average, or 13° above average?
Context clues |
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rockSlayer
lemmy.blahaj.zone
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-02-24 |
Context clues
Do you honestly believe that someone like Joe Rogan could actually understand a graph with this much ambiguity? |
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🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉
lemmy.world
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-29 |
Wtf did the map burn a hole in France?
it was too hot. France has evaporated. we should stop global warming before we lose a place we care about |
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🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉
lemmy.world
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-29 |
Context clues
I get it,it is still interpreatable. but still a poor colorbar choice. |
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mumblerfish
lemmy.world
mumblerfish@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
Wtf did the map burn a hole in France?
Someone running a magnifying glass over there |
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Valentine Angell
lemmy.world
f1error@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-23 |
While yes, a 14c deviation from average temperatures is fucking insane, so is this map. The scale is cooked.
That's a 57f deviation for us mouth-breathing heathens. |
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ShaggySnacks
lemmy.myserv.one
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.oneJoined: 2023-08-17 |
it was too hot. France has evaporated. we should stop global warming before we lose a place we care about
Maybe we should stop climate change after the UK burns up. |
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Thisiswritteningerman
midwest.social
Thisiswritteningerman@midwest.social Joined: 2024-08-04 |
So there is a lot of work on this in color theory, and you can go deep into this.. Here are a few chapters on the matter: https://slcc.pressbooks.pub/maps/chapter/9-2/ , https://courses.ems.psu.edu/geog486/node/876 , and this part in particular https://courses.ems.psu.edu/geog486/node/877 Basically, their use of brightness within hue bins makes this a non-function. Notice how its gets whiter cl...
While I do appreciate the information on better infographic creation, the example map has such a small range comparably. There's over 30 values, not to mention the shades in-between values. I think a two color gradient would end up being very smooth at this scale. Sorta looks to generally drop in temperature as you go east here, nice red to blue fade. Expanding the color palette does give more room for distinction, but that's seemingly how they got where they did. To be fair, from my friends who've actually had color theory and graphic design classes, STEM folks tend to do a poor job of communicating well. So eh. Maybe it's pointless for me to argue against it. |
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isleepinahammock
lemmy.blahaj.zone
isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-09-06 |
Warm summer? Pfft. It's the coolest summer for the rest of our lives! |
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M137
lemmy.today
M137@lemmy.todayJoined: 2026-04-17 |
That is absolutely brutal. I really hope people are finding ways to escape the heat. Separately, this visualization is bad in a way I have never seen before: a scale of pink to dark red, where dark red actually represents 2 completely different numbers!
Many just can't escape it, for many reasons. People are dying, and this will only become more and more common and even worse. We only see the short term effects now too, it'll be so much worse after some years when the long term effects become clear. Crops dying, water shortages, infrastructure damage etc. |
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ObliviousEnlightenment
lemmy.world
IzzyJ@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-15 |
Warm summer? Pfft. It's the coolest summer for the rest of our lives!
Unhelpful |
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starik
lemmy.today
starik@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-06-19 |
What a horrendous color map. The true anarchy in this post is the cartographers use of hue.
I might be the only one who doesn’t mind the color scheme. For the temperature range on the map, the only colors that don’t fit into the typical blue-to-red gradient are the green for really cold, which makes the coldest anomalies really pop, and the white for really hot. I get the complaints about white being used for both normal average temperature and for extreme heat, but it’s easy to tell which is which by the neighboring colors, and it almost looks as if France got so hot that it got a third degree burn, which chars the flesh, nerves included, and no longer feels like anything - thus insensate white. |
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BastingChemina
slrpnk.net
BastingChemina@slrpnk.net Joined: 2023-06-16 |
While yes, a 14c deviation from average temperatures is fucking insane, so is this map. The scale is cooked.
It means that statistically, of the climate was constant, the temperatures we have now would be as probable as having 6°C. |
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calcopiritus
lemmy.world
calcopiritus@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-02 |
What a horrendous color map. The true anarchy in this post is the cartographers use of hue.
Why the fuck is there white between red and red? |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
so what is the unit? because it's a hell of a lot warmer than 18C. Difference from... what historical average? it says 2m temperature anomaly and if it got 18 degrees C hotter outside in two minutes i think i'd just accept death. i must be misreading something. |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
While I do appreciate the information on better infographic creation, the example map has such a small range comparably. There's over 30 values, not to mention the shades in-between values. I think a two color gradient would end up being very smooth at this scale. Sorta looks to generally drop in temperature as you go east here, nice red to blue fade. Expanding the color palette does give more ...
it's a way of thinking about your audience, i think. when i worked in accounting and had to present to and teach accountants: simple formatted tables, stuff that looks like excel, it didn't need to be bright or colorful. it just needed to have colors that were unobtrusive. i'm working in music now and if my seminars don't have showmanship (and if i use powerpoint at all) i'm hosed. different audiences have completely different styles that they are used to communicating with, and if you adapt to that you're going to have more success so like, i'm sure the STEM folk are fine at communicating within their field. outside? well, a few of my uncles were engineers. does it show? |
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Echo Dot
feddit.uk
echodot@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-07-26 |
The graph stops at 18°C, that's the temperature it should be not the temperature that it is. Also why does it have two whites, white is apparently both zero and 13, which is bizarre because it's definitely hotter than 13 everywhere in Europe right now and probably in Iceland as well. This map makes no sense. |
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blockheadjt
sh.itjust.works
blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-08-23 |
Whose decision was it to make "6" and "18" such similar colors |
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Echo Dot
feddit.uk
echodot@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-07-26 |
Do you honestly believe that someone like Joe Rogan could actually understand a graph with this much ambiguity?
If comprehension by Joe Rogan is the standard I think we might as well just give up now. |
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Echo Dot
feddit.uk
echodot@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-07-26 |
While yes, a 14c deviation from average temperatures is fucking insane, so is this map. The scale is cooked.
What's it measuring against average temperature for this time of year because Europe does get hot at this time of year we know that. It's also not as bad as the heat wave we had 6 weeks ago. Not too underestimate our awful the weather currently is. |
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Echo Dot
feddit.uk
echodot@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-07-26 |
Maybe we should stop climate change after the UK burns up.
Wouldn't matter, the moment it gets hot wheel them a great to Spain anyway. |
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Echo Dot
feddit.uk
echodot@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-07-26 |
Europe needs to normalize air conditioning. I'll never forget the most miserable summer of my life was in germany. Summer gets hot there just like most other places, but in Europe, domiciles don't have AC 🥵
This will probably start to change if this is now the reality but at least historically the reason Europe didn't have air conditioning was it wasn't worth it for the 4 days of the year that it would be used. The other reason being that houses won't design to be air conditioned, we don't have ducted heating so if I bought an air conditioner and had it installed in a room it would air condition that room, if I wanted air conditioning in my house I would have to have a unit fitted in each room, that's going to get expensive. Alternatively I could buy this £15 fan from Lidl. |
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rautapekoni
sopuli.xyz
rautapekoni@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-07-01 |
so what is the unit? because it's a hell of a lot warmer than 18C. Difference from... what historical average? it says 2m temperature anomaly and if it got 18 degrees C hotter outside in two minutes i think i'd just accept death. i must be misreading something.
I think the 2m is for temperatures taken two meters off the ground. What the data range for the average is though, impossible to tell. |
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apotheotic (she/her)
beehaw.org
apotheotic@beehaw.orgJoined: 2023-07-11 |
The graph stops at 18°C, that's the temperature it should be not the temperature that it is. Also why does it have two whites, white is apparently both zero and 13, which is bizarre because it's definitely hotter than 13 everywhere in Europe right now and probably in Iceland as well. This map makes no sense.
The scale is "temperature anomaly" so this is deviation from the norm, not the temperature itself |
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