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Drukob
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Drukob@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-23 |
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AeronMelon
lemmy.world
aeronmelon@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-26 |
Not a professional player, but someone judge my strategy: White queen takes black queen, black king takes white queen, white king then moves into position to block black pawns from reaching the end of the board. Black king cannot move into check, black pawns cannot move to the side. Stalemate. |
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Daisy (she/her)
lemmy.ml
TechieDamien@lemmy.ml Joined: 2021-06-26 |
If you move your king away to the corner, then black either has to leave their queen unprotected, or take yours and accept a stalemate (best move for black). Quite a tricky one. I got so tunnel visioned on trying to block the pawns, but ultimately realised it was futile. |
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7uWqKj
lemmy.world
7uWqKj@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-27 |
Not a professional player, but someone judge my strategy: White queen takes black queen, black king takes white queen, white king then moves into position to block black pawns from reaching the end of the board. Black king cannot move into check, black pawns cannot move to the side. Stalemate.
I think you’re right. Looks counter-intuitive because trading queens puts the black king in the perfect position to capture our pawn, giving black two passed pawns against a lone king. Didn’t calculate it all the way through, so I don’t know whether it’s black or white who’s going to be stalemated. |
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vext01
feddit.uk
vext01@feddit.ukJoined: 2023-07-05 |
Funny that stockfish suggests black makes a stalemate. |
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Diplomjodler
lemmy.world
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-01-08 |
If you move your king away to the corner, then black either has to leave their queen unprotected, or take yours and accept a stalemate (best move for black). Quite a tricky one. I got so tunnel visioned on trying to block the pawns, but ultimately realised it was futile.
But that won't work either. Black will find an opportunity to either swap the queens without a stalemate or get one of their pawns through. |
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hayvan
piefed.world
hayvan@piefed.world Joined: 2025-12-06 |
Not a professional player, but someone judge my strategy: White queen takes black queen, black king takes white queen, white king then moves into position to block black pawns from reaching the end of the board. Black king cannot move into check, black pawns cannot move to the side. Stalemate.
I'm not sure. Black king rushing to 2-row could stop white from reaching C1 by moving to B2. Without occupying C1, white cannot stalemate. Now what if white plays King to H1. Black queen cannot capture because that's a stalemate, and cannot get out of the way because it's a check. But I'm not sure how the game goes from there. |
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Daisy (she/her)
lemmy.ml
TechieDamien@lemmy.ml Joined: 2021-06-26 |
But that won't work either. Black will find an opportunity to either swap the queens without a stalemate or get one of their pawns through.
Their queen is pinned to the king, so they either: move the king away and give you the queen, move the queen towards your queen and give away their queen, or take your queen and force stalemate. There are no other legal options. |
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Diplomjodler
lemmy.world
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-01-08 |
Their queen is pinned to the king, so they either: move the king away and give you the queen, move the queen towards your queen and give away their queen, or take your queen and force stalemate. There are no other legal options.
Oh. Right. Sneaky little bugger. |
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missingno
fedia.io
missingno@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-06-28 |
I'm not sure. Black king rushing to 2-row could stop white from reaching C1 by moving to B2. Without occupying C1, white cannot stalemate. Now what if white plays King to H1. Black queen cannot capture because that's a stalemate, and cannot get out of the way because it's a check. But I'm not sure how the game goes from there.
If Kh1, Black loses if they don't accept the stalemate. It's otherwise zugzwang, any move besides Qxf2 results in losing their queen. |
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missingno
fedia.io
missingno@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-06-28 |
Not a professional player, but someone judge my strategy: White queen takes black queen, black king takes white queen, white king then moves into position to block black pawns from reaching the end of the board. Black king cannot move into check, black pawns cannot move to the side. Stalemate.
If you click onto the Lichess analysis board linked, the second button from the left on the bottom-right panel lets you play the position against the computer. Try it and see if you can actually prevent the pawn promotion that way... |
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bangupjobasusual
lemmy.world
bangupjobasusual@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
If you move your king away to the corner, then black either has to leave their queen unprotected, or take yours and accept a stalemate (best move for black). Quite a tricky one. I got so tunnel visioned on trying to block the pawns, but ultimately realised it was futile.
You mean away from the corner, right? |
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Daisy (she/her)
lemmy.ml
TechieDamien@lemmy.ml Joined: 2021-06-26 |
You mean away from the corner, right? kF1
No, kh1 |
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bangupjobasusual
lemmy.world
bangupjobasusual@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
No, kh1
But Qxf2 Look at Kf1, black has to back the king off. Queen capture is unavoidable |
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Daisy (she/her)
lemmy.ml
TechieDamien@lemmy.ml Joined: 2021-06-26 |
But Qxf2 Look at Kf1, black has to back the king off. Queen capture is unavoidable
Yeah, but Qxf2 is stalemate, hence you don't lose |
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