The name Arctic has nothing to do with the presence of bears, it got its name from either of the two star constellations Ursa Major or Ursa Minor (Edit: meaning big and small bear), where ursa is arctos in Greek, which are both present in the northern hemisphere and tge latter even contains the celestial north pole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic

And those are all "bear"...

But I suppose your point is that it is a degree removed from bears, that it is based on the constellations that are based on bears, rather than direct.. But "nothing" to do with bears isn't correct ..

And I imagine Antarctic has some relation to being the antipodean arctic

Nothing to do with the presence of bears. The stellar constructions aren't actual bears.

BTW, "bear" means "the brown one", which is more or less "the animal that must not be named". This is true in a bunch of languages (Czech has "the honey eater").

It might be the oldest known euphemism.

Source??

Could have sworn it wasn't phrased that way when I first read the comment...

No, I just added the translation "big and small bear" which I forgot before.

one day I will say the true name of the bear and summon The Brownest One

You'd better eat all your honey beforehand or you'll lose it.

Pretty funny but not really wholesome

I think you are trying to say "well duh, of course they were dead on. The stars literally aligned and told them that."

This is sometimes called the Indo-European Bear Taboo, because it's observed in many IE languages, mostly northern and central ones.

In some areas without bears it looks like mountain lions get the same treatment. So it may stem from a common IE tradition of euphemizing the largest predator and that tradition changed as IE groups moved into new areas.

But it may just be a human tendency to avoid speaking the name of dangerous or hateful things - many use euphemisms instead of saying trump's name.

You assume the honey is for me and not an offering

I think the point is that there are no kangaroo constellations in the northern hemisphere. There would be no bear constellations, either, except for the presence of bears.

That certainly explains all of the “pet names” I’ve given myself over the years.

But is the presence if Ursa not the presence of bears?

If i remember correctly bear isnt even the actual name but another nickname, the real name is long forgotten and replaced by winnie the pooh

Antarctica was originally called Australia before it was discovered until they discovered Australia and thought it was Antarctica which hadn't been discovered yet

I thought it had to do with constellations. Ursa Major and Minor.

I think there's an argument to be made that it's also not at all funny

The north pole pole has the presents of the bears. The south is the opposite, anti-polaric bears should be everywhere. Hence the mystery of bearyonic asymmetry.

That's a good point.

Also happened with "beaver" in at least Germanic, Celtic, and Balto-Slavic, so not just apex predators.

Nah, I don’t think that’s right. Those constellations are 100% actual bears

From a similar thread on the other website hypothesizing what the Modern English word would be if it survived:

After the later metathesis to *h₂ŕ̥ḱtos, it could have become Proto-Germanic *urhtaz, which might have taken any number of forms in Old English, *urht, *orht, *roht. Probably at the extreme it could have become English *rought, pronounced like 'wrought' or 'rout'.

Good luck with your summoning!

That's only for the Slavic "bear" euphemism, medved "honey-eater"

Mmm. Honey filled snack.

Is there a Russian tennis player with this name?

Or accurate.

If those aren't real bears, then whose blood is it that turns the leaves red in the fall?

Can you supply a link re the mountain lions? Not bc I disagree, just want to read more

Also, 'ant-' just means "opposite". It can negate a statement, but it can also express opposition or relative position.

In this case, 'Antarctic' just means "on the opposite end of the planet from the Arctic."

I've seen Hercules

I can't remember where i heard it, i think it was mentioned maybe in a video by stefan milo or crecganford?

All i could find in a few minutes of googling is this paper on polish etymologies of bear, lynx and wolf as possibly taboo zoonyms.

Way to ruin it party pooper!

So penguins are anti-bears.

Why do you think Ursa Major was in the northern sky? To the ancient Greeks, bears were things that lived in the north.

What kind of presents do bears give?

Just think; It could have been "No Penguins" and "Penguins".

They come bearing gifts

With their bear hands.

Dude haven't you seen the Coke Christmas commercials?

And bear bottoms

Antarctica did get the next best thing though: leopard seals.

So you're fine as long as you don't unseal the leopards.

Jesus?

That's my name, don't wear it out

Yeah. The Greeks also didnt live anywhere near the arctic and couldn't have possibly known of the existance of polar bears there. They just named the north "the arctic", aka, the place the bear constellations point. Then, the antarctic is "the opposite of that"

The word Arctic comes from the Greek word ἀρκτικός arktikos "near the Bear, northern"[4] and from the word ἄρκτος arktos meaning "bear," named for either the constellation known as Ursa Major, the "Great Bear", which is prominent in the northern portion of the celestial sphere,[5][6] or the constellation Ursa Minor, the "Little Bear", which contains the celestial north pole (currently very near Polaris, the current north Pole Star, or North Star).[7]