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Wren
lemmy.today
Wren@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-04 |
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SGGeorwell
lemmy.world
SGGeorwell@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-01-09 |
What do the crows know? |
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PennyRoyal
sh.itjust.works
PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-09-02 |
I feel like we’re brushing past the salient point here - why are the crows doing this?! |
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Korval
lemmy.today
Korval@lemmy.today Joined: 2024-09-22 |
What do the crows know?
Based on the abstract of a research paper I found (the only source I found not interested in exaggerating things for clicks or commenting on mundane problems like nests and poop), crows know that dropping rocks is fun. The researchers (again, according to the abstract--the meat is behind a paywall, as usual) speak as if crows are always dropping rocks; the implication being that the presence of the solar panels is happenstance. Their research merely correlates cracks in the panels, and pebbles on the panels, with crows flying overhead. In the paragraph they don't even directly blame the cracked panels on the rocks, let alone the crows. They simply state the chain of events as a possibility. On the other hand, I've heard lots of fun facts about birds over the years and the underlying theme is that birds are bastardly and some, like crows, are intelligent. What human kid doesn't enjoy throwing rocks or shooting bullets at glass? I don't find it hard to believe that crows might similar mayhem enjoyable. |
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oce 🐆
jlai.lu
oce@jlai.luJoined: 2023-07-07 |
I feel like we’re brushing past the salient point here - why are the crows doing this?!
They are big oil drones, birds are not real. |
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Sanctus
anarchist.nexus
Sanctus@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2025-09-08 |
Big shiny burn eyes. Rock make shiny sparkle. Hurt bird protect big shiny. |
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TropicalDingdong
lemmy.world
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-29 |
Deciding which side to support between the anti corporate anti technology crows or the bad ass green energy supportimg hawks:
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a_non_monotonic_function
lemmy.world
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-10-22 |
I feel like we’re brushing past the salient point here - why are the crows doing this?!
Crows are based. |
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notabot
piefed.social
notabot@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-04 |
I feel like we’re brushing past the salient point here - why are the crows doing this?!
At a guess, because crows are smart, resourceful little chaos goblins, with basically no fear, especially in groups. Maybe they like the noise the breaking glass makes, or maybe they're just curious to see what will happen. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that they've made a game of it, to see which of them can hit nearest the centre, or from highest up. I'm actually surprised that a single falcon manages to scare them off, after seeing what they do to buzzards round here. Even if the buzzard is minding it's own business, multiple crows will attack it in flight, dive it bombing and harrying it until it has left the area. |
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farmgineer
nord.pub
farmgineer@nord.pub Joined: 2026-04-25 |
This headline and xitt smelled to me. Searching in Japanese, I find one instance of it being used at a installation. https://project.nikkeibp.co.jp/ms/atcl/feature/15/389489/041000017/?ST=msb&P=5 I'm not immediately seeing anything else similar. Edit: clarity. |
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Zikeji
programming.dev
Zikeji@programming.devJoined: 2023-07-01 |
At a guess, because crows are smart, resourceful little chaos goblins, with basically no fear, especially in groups. Maybe they like the noise the breaking glass makes, or maybe they're just curious to see what will happen. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that they've made a game of it, to see which of them can hit nearest the centre, or from highest up. I'm actually surprised that a single fa...
They also like shiny things so it wouldn't surprise me if it's just due to that. |
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CameronDev
programming.dev
CameronDev@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-18 |
I'm not convinced a crow can crack a solar panel, they are very tough. People walk on them, and they survive hail. |
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NotSteve_
lemmy.ca
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-16 |
At a guess, because crows are smart, resourceful little chaos goblins, with basically no fear, especially in groups. Maybe they like the noise the breaking glass makes, or maybe they're just curious to see what will happen. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that they've made a game of it, to see which of them can hit nearest the centre, or from highest up. I'm actually surprised that a single fa...
Is it possible the light bounces off the panels in a way that annoys them too? |
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terranoid
lemmy.cafe
terranoid@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2026-05-08 |
Deciding which side to support between the anti corporate anti technology crows or the bad ass green energy supportimg hawks:
The crows are smarter and it worries me they know better |
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TropicalDingdong
lemmy.world
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-29 |
The crows are smarter and it worries me they know better
hawk is a narc. |
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rockerface🇺🇦
lemmy.cafe
rockerface@lemmy.cafeJoined: 2025-06-29 |
I feel like we’re brushing past the salient point here - why are the crows doing this?!
They're farming the raid boss |
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wyldrstallyns
lemmy.dbzer0.com
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2026-05-16 |
I feel like we’re brushing past the salient point here - why are the crows doing this?!
Even further, why scapegoat the crows at all? The local avian population no doubt bombs enough bad paint to cause issues when it anneals to the panels in the focused sunlight. Again. Why? 🤌🏼 |
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wyldrstallyns
lemmy.dbzer0.com
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2026-05-16 |
They are big oil drones, birds are not real.
Have you seen one IRL? They're really not that but at all. Could fit in a backpack —if you have a wish to lose your soul to oblivion, but yeah. Pretty awesome, actually. 🥰 |
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wyldrstallyns
lemmy.dbzer0.com
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2026-05-16 |
hawk is a narc.
Gestapo. They were a predator before, too. |
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wyldrstallyns
lemmy.dbzer0.com
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2026-05-16 |
Big shiny burn eyes. Rock make shiny sparkle. Hurt bird protect big shiny.
Cracking them would increase their sparkle... |
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Linktank
lemmy.today
Linktank@lemmy.today Joined: 2024-08-07 |
What are "sorties"? |
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SaltSong
startrek.website
SaltSong@startrek.websiteJoined: 2025-03-08 |
So, that's 2.5 sorties an hour, 24 hours a day. I don't know how much falcon need to sleep, but that feels unsustainable. |
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acockworkorange
mander.xyz
acockworkorange@mander.xyz Joined: 2023-06-09 |
Even further, why scapegoat the crows at all? The local avian population no doubt bombs enough bad paint to cause issues when it anneals to the panels in the focused sunlight. Secondly, that one falcon is quite likely taking whatever it can find on the wing each sortie. Even ground critters. So... Again. Why? 🤌🏼
..what? |
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wyldrstallyns
lemmy.dbzer0.com
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2026-05-16 |
..what?
Must be your translator. Anyhow, gotta gallop! 🦄 |
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rbos
lemmy.ca
rbos@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-06-08 |
What are "sorties"?
Aviation term for an air attack. Out, hit, back. I think it's also general military. A squad can sortie out to accomplish an objective. |
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Mountainaire
lemmy.world
Mountainaire@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-18 |
Is it possible the light bounces off the panels in a way that annoys them too?
All of the above! |
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grue
lemmy.world
grue@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Aviation term for an air attack. Out, hit, back. I think it's also general military. A squad can sortie out to accomplish an objective.
From the French sortir, "to go out". So yeah, the "out" and "back" parts are important: if a unit is attaching while maneuvering in the field, it's not a "sortie". That's also why it's common in aviation, since airplanes inherently require a home runway that every attack begins and (ideally) ends at. |
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lettruthout
lemmy.world
lettruthout@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-11 |
This headline and xitt smelled to me. Searching in Japanese, I find one instance of it being used at a installation. https://project.nikkeibp.co.jp/ms/atcl/feature/15/389489/041000017/?ST=msb&P=5 I'm not immediately seeing anything else similar. Edit: clarity.
Yeah, I’m wondering about the truthfulness of this story also. Here in Southern California we have solar arrays and crows. They seem to coexist quite peacefully, |
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NigelFrobisher
aussie.zone
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone Joined: 2023-08-07 |
Ok but who will protect the batteries from the falcons? |
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NigelFrobisher
aussie.zone
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone Joined: 2023-08-07 |
I feel like we’re brushing past the salient point here - why are the crows doing this?!
Leverage. |
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altphoto
lemmy.today
altphoto@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-04-14 |
Ok but who will protect the batteries from the falcons?
Yada yada yada... I just installed our second set of cobras under the couch. They eat the mice. The mice are for feeding the security bears, but they tend to run into the house. The mice, not the bears. The bears protect the house from the road lions who prevent cars from parking in front of the house. That's where we have our electric car chargers fed from the solar panels. Yeah, we got the eagle to chase the falcon who chases the crows. The crows are there to prevent pidgeons so I can enjoy my fries in pace. My dog doesn't bark at all. Cone to think of it, I haven't seen that rascal in a few weeks. I wonder what he's doing. |
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TheGoldenV
lemmy.world
TheGoldenV@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-09-23 |
So, that's 2.5 sorties an hour, 24 hours a day. I don't know how much falcon need to sleep, but that feels unsustainable.
Now I’m wondering. How large of an area one bird could cover. How many falcons does one professional falconer have? Do they take constant upkeep training like a dog or do they retain better? Does a falcon eat much? Can they eat people food? Like two mice a day with some fish would probably be ok. Maybe let it eat some of the crows to keep costs down? So like 2-6 falcons, they can sleep in the van, let them eat the crows they nail. The birds are only flying from dawn to dusk, so 7 days a week for maybe 10 hours on average? Screw it, I’m buying a falcon. |
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Vegafjord oakframer
lemmy.ml
libre_warrior@lemmy.mlJoined: 2021-02-28 |
Shouldnt the crows be happy about green energy? I think they are ungreatful. |
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TankovayaDiviziya
lemmy.world
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-01-22 |
From the French sortir, "to go out". So yeah, the "out" and "back" parts are important: if a unit is attaching while maneuvering in the field, it's not a "sortie". That's also why it's common in aviation, since airplanes inherently require a home runway that every attack begins and (ideally) ends at.
Jesus, I know French but i didn't connect the term to the language! 🤣 |
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ikidd
lemmy.dbzer0.com
ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-04-23 |
Yeah, I’m wondering about the truthfulness of this story also. Here in Southern California we have solar arrays and crows. They seem to coexist quite peacefully,
I would also be amazed if a crow could lift a big enough rock to damage a panel. I have a pile of panels in use; they're pretty damn tough to break that glass. Only time I've seen one broken was the wind tore it off it's mount and smashed it into the top of a fence post. I measure the production afterwards and it was still 90% despite the glass being crazed across the entire surface. |
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Xandi
feddit.org
Xandi@feddit.org Joined: 2026-06-09 |
Had crows at my parents place pecking the windows. So them attacking glass surfaces definitely tracks. |
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farmgineer
nord.pub
farmgineer@nord.pub Joined: 2026-04-25 |
Yeah, I’m wondering about the truthfulness of this story also. Here in Southern California we have solar arrays and crows. They seem to coexist quite peacefully,
"there was a high possibility of actual damage occurring, such as the cover glass being broken by falling rocks or the panel surface being soiled with droppings" from the Japanese article via google translate. Our crows here are larger than the US ("grackles" in Texas may be close, but I think they're still smaller), but I still wonder if they could drop rocks heavy enough (or repeatedly enough) to do anything. |
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acockworkorange
mander.xyz
acockworkorange@mander.xyz Joined: 2023-06-09 |
Must be your translator. Anyhow, gotta gallop! 🦄
Merry focused ambling to you and your pack. |
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mylittleinsanities
reddthat.com
gerald_eliasweb@reddthat.comJoined: 2025-06-03 |
Nature is self-sabotaging it would appear |
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Lovable Sidekick
lemmy.world
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-10-19 |
Info from the original source, which I think was this facebook post: In Japan, large solar power farms face an unusual challenge from crows, highly intelligent birds that have taken to dropping stones and other debris onto the photovoltaic panels. |
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Aneb
lemmy.world
Aneb@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-08-28 |
They also like shiny things so it wouldn't surprise me if it's just due to that.
Just like my ex husband |
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Taleya
aussie.zone
Taleya@aussie.zone Joined: 2023-06-21 |
Between this and the decoy nests what the fuck did Japan do to piss crows off so bad |
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Taleya
aussie.zone
Taleya@aussie.zone Joined: 2023-06-21 |
Have you seen one IRL? They're really not that but at all. Could fit in a backpack —if you have a wish to lose your soul to oblivion, but yeah. Pretty awesome, actually. 🥰
Please film yourself putting a live wild crow into your backpack. Conscious, please |
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