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TIL about Peruvian serial killer Ángel Díaz Balbín, who was murdered by a psychologist during his interrogation in 1986
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58008 lemmy.world 58008@lemmy.world
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The shrink served 5 years of a 12-year sentence for the murder.

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FinjaminPoach lemmy.world FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world
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ragica lemmy.ml ragica@lemmy.ml
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Once alone, Poggi ordered Díaz Balbín to undress, and he got naked too. According to reports, Poggi wanted to provoke Díaz Balbín in order to prove that he was a [sexual deviant]

Okaaaaaaay....

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Mouselemming sh.itjust.works Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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Since he never confessed and they didn't have enough evidence to prove he'd murdered anyone other than the original 3 he'd served his time for, I think he should be called an "alleged" serial killer. The article even mentions other murders while he was jailed, and possible SS tactics during interrogation. Poggi's starting to look like just another bad cop to me.

Are we 100% sure of Poggi's whereabouts during the murders? Strangling your patsy and getting a light sentence would be a nifty tactic....

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FinjaminPoach lemmy.world FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world
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Azzu leminal.space Azzu@leminal.space
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It's actually crazy that you call that a hero and many people seem to agree with you. He was already apprehended and no danger to anyone anymore. You especially left out in your quotw that the psychologist forced him to get naked and got naked himself before the strangling. The psychologist is not much better than the serial killer imo.

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Twinklebreeze lemmy.world Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world
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*Alleged serial killer. He was murdered before confessing or being convicted of the other murders.

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Swedneck discuss.tchncs.de Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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so it's okay to kill people so long as you just accuse them of some terrible crime first?

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snooggums piefed.world snooggums@piefed.world
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*Alleged serial killer. He was murdered before confessing or being convicted of the other murders.

Hitler was alleged to commit genocide, he killed himself before confessing or being convicted of the murders.

I get what you are saying about lacking the link to the murders, which is accurate. Saying somebody isn't something unless they have been tried and convicted is a bit high of a bar when they die before that could happen.

In this case you are right, it is more accurate to say Ángel Díaz Balbín was suspected of being a serial killer based on his prior conviction which is true.

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Twinklebreeze lemmy.world Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world
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Hitler was alleged to commit genocide, he killed himself before confessing or being convicted of the murders. I get what you are saying about lacking the link to the murders, which is accurate. Saying somebody isn't something unless they have been tried and convicted is a bit high of a bar when they die before that could happen. In this case you are right, it is more accurate to say Ángel Díaz ...

There is direct evidence to support hitler commiting genocide, so we don't need to convict him.

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Crackhappy lemmy.world Crackhappy@lemmy.world
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Hitler was alleged to commit genocide, he killed himself before confessing or being convicted of the murders. I get what you are saying about lacking the link to the murders, which is accurate. Saying somebody isn't something unless they have been tried and convicted is a bit high of a bar when they die before that could happen. In this case you are right, it is more accurate to say Ángel Díaz ...

Dear Lord. Godwins law coming in hot today.

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snooggums piefed.world snooggums@piefed.world
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There is direct evidence to support hitler commiting genocide, so we don't need to convict him.

Try reading the whole comment.

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Goodlucksil lemmy.dbzer0.com Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Hitler was alleged to commit genocide, he killed himself before confessing or being convicted of the murders. I get what you are saying about lacking the link to the murders, which is accurate. Saying somebody isn't something unless they have been tried and convicted is a bit high of a bar when they die before that could happen. In this case you are right, it is more accurate to say Ángel Díaz ...

The Nuremberg trials were all about deciding whether Hitler had committed genocide

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snooggums piefed.world snooggums@piefed.world
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The Nuremberg trials were all about deciding whether Hitler had committed genocide

Some of the most prominent Nazis—Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, and Joseph Goebbels—had committed suicide and therefore could not be tried.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials

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RememberTheApollo_ lemmy.world RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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Hitler was alleged to commit genocide, he killed himself before confessing or being convicted of the murders. I get what you are saying about lacking the link to the murders, which is accurate. Saying somebody isn't something unless they have been tried and convicted is a bit high of a bar when they die before that could happen. In this case you are right, it is more accurate to say Ángel Díaz ...

That’s like saying gravity isn’t actually gravity and didn’t do gravity things unless a scientist tests it exhaustively and then says “gravity exists.”

Anyone can see gravity does indeed exist and does gravity things, it’s the extent of the properties of gravity that need to be left to the experts.

Hitler did genocide. No question.

How much did he genocide? Quite a lot, but we don’t have precise numbers.

So yes, Hitler did do genocidal things regardless of whether or not he had a court convict him of those things, and no, we don’t need “allegedly” as pedantry or exploiting an irrelevant technicality.

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snooggums piefed.world snooggums@piefed.world
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That’s like saying gravity isn’t actually gravity and didn’t do gravity things unless a scientist tests it exhaustively and then says “gravity exists.” Anyone can see gravity does indeed exist and does gravity things, it’s the extent of the properties of gravity that need to be left to the experts. Hitler did genocide. No question. How much did he genocide? Quite a lot, but we don’t have precis...

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RememberTheApollo_ lemmy.world RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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Your mistake was using “Hitler” and “allegedly”, an incredibly poor choice.

The rest of your argument is plausible.

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snooggums piefed.world snooggums@piefed.world
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Idonthinkso.gif Your mistake was using “Hitler” and “allegedly”, an incredibly poor choice. The rest of your argument is plausible.

Saying somebody isn’t something unless they have been tried and convicted is a bit high of a bar when they die before that could happen.

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waterSticksToMyBalls lemmy.world waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world
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Who did the hawk tuah girl extrajudicially murder??

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Summzashi lemmy.world Summzashi@lemmy.world
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Once alone, Poggi ordered Díaz Balbín to undress, and he got naked too. According to reports, Poggi wanted to provoke Díaz Balbín in order to prove that he was a [sexual deviant] Okaaaaaaay....

It's pretty confusing but this didn't actually happen, the truth is actually weirder. After the psychologist was released from prison he starred in a movie about himself about the murder, but it's a sexualized version of the event itself. Somehow that crept into the Wikipedia article of the serial killer as truth.

I'm not making this shit up lmao

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deathmetaldawgy lemmy.ml deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml
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Hitler was alleged to commit genocide, he killed himself before confessing or being convicted of the murders. I get what you are saying about lacking the link to the murders, which is accurate. Saying somebody isn't something unless they have been tried and convicted is a bit high of a bar when they die before that could happen. In this case you are right, it is more accurate to say Ángel Díaz ...

Ted Bundy type argument lmao

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username123 sh.itjust.works username123@sh.itjust.works
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Saying somebody isn’t something unless they have been tried and convicted is a bit high of a bar when they die before that could happen.

Sorry, even lemmygoers can struggle with reading comprehension. I feel your pain, brx

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username123 sh.itjust.works username123@sh.itjust.works
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Who did the hawk tuah girl extrajudicially murder??

Lots of discord nerds' gooning fantasies.

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username123 sh.itjust.works username123@sh.itjust.works
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Saying somebody isn’t something unless they have been tried and convicted is a bit high of a bar when they die before that could happen.

Ain't no nuance for the wicked.

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