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evenwicht
lemmy.sdf.org
evenwicht@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2024-07-01 |
Digital is always better in some ways, but of course not in every aspect. There are some cases where the analog mechanism still has merit because it does /something/ that digital cannot -- yet it is being phased out anyway because of this naive attitude that digital is wholly superior. VOIP vs POTS
FM radio vs. DAB
fax vs. email
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Libb
piefed.social
Libb@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-04 |
'Better' depends a lot of what one is looking for. And what one consider more important which might not always be convenience or efficiency. To share just two personal examples:
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esc
piefed.social
esc@piefed.social Joined: 2026-03-24 |
Faxes are shit, they are hard and rarely works and no one expects them anymore (nobody expected them even 10 years ago) |
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esc
piefed.social
esc@piefed.social Joined: 2026-03-24 |
'Better' depends a lot of what one is looking for. And what one consider more important which might not always be convenience or efficiency. To share just two personal examples: Even though ebooks are more portable, take less space to collect, are easier to copy and paste quotes from, and are often cheaper, I have chosen to go back to reading print (aka analog) books and newspapers and magazine...
I enjoy reading with e-reader a lot more, they are far more convenient, have in-built dictionaries and TOC with which you can skip to any part of the book, fonts can be changed, made bigger or smaller, margins can be changed, density can be changed, etc, etc. You can have tens of thousands of books on a single e-reader and your own opds catalog with thousands more. Also they don't smell and you can easily mark and bookmark things with descriptions. |
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Libb
piefed.social
Libb@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-04 |
I enjoy reading with e-reader a lot more, they are far more convenient, have in-built dictionaries and TOC with which you can skip to any part of the book, fonts can be changed, made bigger or smaller, margins can be changed, density can be changed, etc, etc. You can have tens of thousands of books on a single e-reader and your own opds catalog with thousands more. Also they don't smell and you...
Good for you, I'm glad you're enjoying them. As I was saying, I care more about my privacy and the true ownership. I could have added I also appreciate a much nicer page layout with most print books.
I don't read that many books at the same time but, here again like I said, I realize ebooks help saving space. |
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elucubra
sopuli.xyz
elucubra@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-03 |
Faxes are shit, they are hard and rarely works and no one expects them anymore (nobody expected them even 10 years ago)
I had a client who refused to use eMail, and used fax until it was really fringe. The guy got hit by massive spam calls, and wasted paper and toner (thankfully not ink or thermal) like crazy. I believe faxes do have some use cases even today, but they are rather fringe. |
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evenwicht
lemmy.sdf.org
evenwicht@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2024-07-01 |
Faxes are shit, they are hard and rarely works and no one expects them anymore (nobody expected them even 10 years ago)
Not if you know what you’re doing. Of course it’s shit if you feed a copy of a copy of a color doc into a scanner and send to a machine that thermo-prints hard copies from a roll of thin paper. If you compose in LaTeX using the Lucida Fax font, generate a group 3 fax TIFF and directly send that to a recipient competent enough to keep it electronic, the quality is so crisp the only clue that it’s a fax would be by someone with a meticulous recognition of that font, if not from a fax header.
You have to plug the machine in and power it on. Then it works. Of course email has the same prerequisite, and much more. For me, email rarely works. Google and Microsoft mail servers reject RFC-compliant mail from my mail server, so probably over 90% of email recipients are on a broken infra.
True, as most people are not competent enough to realise fax avoids fussy and broken anti-spam algos, and that it minimises their exposure to tracking and surveillance when corresponding with an encryption-naive recipient. |
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evenwicht
lemmy.sdf.org
evenwicht@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2024-07-01 |
I had a client who refused to use eMail, and used fax until it was really fringe. The guy got hit by massive spam calls, and wasted paper and toner (thankfully not ink or thermal) like crazy. I believe faxes do have some use cases even today, but they are rather fringe.
Obviously he did not know what he was doing. Foolish to expose a voice number to gratis 3rd-party fax services. If you do it right you get neither voice spam nor written spam. Sending email and sharing an email address is a good recipe for receiving spam.
Fax does not require paper on either side of the transmission, so no need for waste.
Toner implies laser which wastes substantially more energy than inkjet. But of course the wisest fax recipients don’t bother with hard copies at all in the first place.
That’s because privacy and data minimisation is fringe. Boycotting Microsoft and Google is also fringe. |
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esc
piefed.social
esc@piefed.social Joined: 2026-03-24 |
Faxes are shit, Not if you know what you’re doing. Of course it’s shit if you feed a copy of a copy of a color doc into a scanner and send to a machine that thermo-prints hard copies from a roll of thin paper. If you compose in LaTeX using the Lucida Fax font, generate a group 3 fax TIFF and directly send that to a recipient competent enough to keep it electronic, the quality is so crisp the on...
There are close to 3 people in the world that compose them the way you describe.
Also you have to have a fixed phone line and recipient as well, and your telephone exchange needs to be something that is from the last century. In any other case it won't work the way you describe.
Fax doesn't work for the vast majority of people for multitude of reasons. |
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evenwicht
lemmy.sdf.org
evenwicht@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2024-07-01 |
LaTeX There are close to 3 people in the world that compose them the way you describe. plug the machine in and power it on Also you have to have a fixed phone line and recipient as well, and your telephone exchange needs to be something that is from the last century. In any other case it won't work the way you describe. everything else Fax doesn't work for the vast majority of people for multit...
Luckily anyone can join the club if they want their faxes to have over-achieving quality. There is no law against it.
Not at all:
Side note: “fixed lines” are just an illusion. You can subscribe to a POTS line but unless you are in a quite primitive region it will just be a VOIP service that is hidden from you at the end of your street.
There are only 2 credible obscure corner cases that yield a fax failure. Countless things break email. Email is broken as shit: The things that make fax *unreliable*
The things that make e-mail *unreliable*
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esc
piefed.social
esc@piefed.social Joined: 2026-03-24 |
There are close to 3 people in the world that compose them the way you describe. Luckily anyone can join the club if they want their faxes to have over-achieving quality. There is no law against it. Also you have to have a fixed phone line Not at all: There are 3rd party fax services who can send it for you. Fax over VOIP works if you select the right algo and have reasonable latency. Side note...
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mesa
piefed.social
mesamunefire@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-12-27 |
Faxes are shit, they are hard and rarely works and no one expects them anymore (nobody expected them even 10 years ago)
Healthcare still uses it quite a bit. For some reason.... At the office I worked at for a bit, we had a machine that would turn the FAX messages into PDFs and then let the department know they received something rather than printing everything. It even had spam filters and while/black list services. It was like a much worse internet, but it did work. Ive heard people got raspberry pis to do relatively the same thing. Im not saying your wrong, but there is a bit more nuance in the real world. |
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mesa
piefed.social
mesamunefire@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-12-27 |
No electricity to power a book is a big plus. Also its harder to track if I just give the book to another person. Arguable easier to find later on as its on your shelf. Its better for consumers because they can distribute said thing rather than deal with Digital DRM. |
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esc
piefed.social
esc@piefed.social Joined: 2026-03-24 |
Healthcare still uses it quite a bit. For some reason.... At the office I worked at for a bit, we had a machine that would turn the FAX messages into PDFs and then let the department know they received something rather than printing everything. It even had spam filters and while/black list services. It was like a much worse internet, but it did work. Ive heard people got raspberry pis to do rel...
Yeah, probably depends on the part of the world and culture a lot. |
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mesa
piefed.social
mesamunefire@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-12-27 |
Yeah, probably depends on the part of the world and culture a lot.
Very true. |
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