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jordanlund
lemmy.world
jordanlund@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-30 |
I just got an email from dBrand cancelling the Steam Machine companion cube shell. They posted the rationale on reddit, /r/dBrand but for the good folks who don't do reddit anymore, here's their post: "RIP Companion Cube 🚨 Announcement 🚨 As you’ve probably noticed, the Steam Machine Companion Cube was eviscerated from our website, YouTube, and other social media platforms last week. The blunt version is that we made the Companion Cube without a license from Valve. Everyone who purchased a Companion Cube will have their refund issued by end-of-day. Everything else beyond this is just detail. If you want the full story, keep reading. On November 12th 2025, the day the Steam Machine was announced, we put up a concept render and sign-up page to see if anyone would be interested in a Companion Cube enclosure. It went moderately viral, with over fifteen thousand people signing up to be notified in the first day. In the months that followed, we built the idea into something real without ever asking Valve if we could. We’re going to regret that decision for a very long time. Over the next seven months, we poured our souls into this project. More than a thousand hours went into engineering from our industrial design team. Forty-four sets of injection molding tools were developed, one for each of the cube's sub-components. The entire product was redesigned from scratch more than once, just to get the way it cradles the console exactly right. We literally rented out a university campus to film the launch video. By the end, we were losing money on every $99 Poverty Cube sold, but it didn’t matter. This had turned into a passion project for the entire organization. Unfortunately, being proud of the thing we made did not give us the right to make it. We launched around 3am on Monday, June 22nd. Overnight, it became the second-fastest selling product in our 15-year history, behind only the Switch 2 Killswitch. Shortly after, Valve’s legal team reached out. They stated that the Companion Cube is Valve intellectual property, for which dbrand does not have a license. They requested we take down the product and launch film immediately. This was entirely within their rights, and they were direct, fair, and respectful throughout. We took everything down and made an appeal. We asked Valve whether there was any way to keep the project alive: properly licensed, with their blessing, on their terms. They said no. Given our backwards approach of building first and asking permission later, it was a fair answer. That’s basically the whole story. We made something a lot of people were excited about, then incinerated our shot at bringing it to market. It’s a hard lesson to learn publicly. It goes without saying, but we’ll say it regardless: Valve didn’t do anything wrong here. They built a game franchise a lot of people love and they alone get to decide how it’s used. To everyone who was as excited about this project as we were: thank you, and sorry. Refunds are being issued today. If it hasn’t landed in your account by the end of this week, you know how to reach us. To Valve: thank you for Portal, and sorry for the headache. We should’ve asked first." |
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zigmus64
lemmy.world
zigmus64@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-06 |
Sucks… good on D-brand for handling it with class though. |
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Voyajer
lemmy.world
Voyajer@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-12 |
Why am I not surprised they didn't get a license |
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boatswain
infosec.pub
boatswain@infosec.pub Joined: 2023-06-18 |
Sucks… good on D-brand for handling it with class though.
Yeah, nice to see companies taking ownership of mistakes. Shame they didn't ask first. |
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shweddy
lemmy.world
shweddy@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-03-21 |
Dbrand and not getting a license name a better duo |
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Romkslrqusz
lemmy.zip
Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zipJoined: 2025-06-04 |
That sucks Wonder if they’ll release the CAD files? |
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woelkchen
lemmy.world
woelkchen@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Why am I not surprised they didn't get a license
Why am I not surprised they went ahead without even asking to get a license? |
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officermike
lemmy.world
officermike@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-15 |
Did they not learn from the PS5 dark plates? Why do they keep developing things without licensing or approval from rights holders? This seems like an easy lesson to learn. I imagine the engineering time and injection molds cost them a huge chunk of cash. |
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Juviz
lemmy.zip
Juviz@lemmy.zip Joined: 2024-07-28 |
That is one of the best and probably Most sincere apologies I’ve ever heard from a company. Sucks for the product, but those guys seem to be all right |
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Deconceptualist
leminal.space
Deconceptualist@leminal.space Joined: 2025-06-29 |
Y'know when this was first prototyped I considered asking whether was licensed, but thought, "Nah, dbrand wouldn't be that stupid, I'm sure they worked it out with Valve". Heh. Too much faith on my part I guess. |
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Darkassassin07
lemmy.ca
Darkassassin07@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-07-01 |
Ouch... Getting injection moulds made is really REALLY pricey. That's an expensive lesson. |
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jordanlund
lemmy.world
jordanlund@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-30 |
Did they not learn from the PS5 dark plates? Why do they keep developing things without licensing or approval from rights holders? This seems like an easy lesson to learn. I imagine the engineering time and injection molds cost them a huge chunk of cash.
You would think the people in charge of production would have pressed management on it: "Hey, did we get permission this time? Or is it the Dark Plates all over again?" |
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Err(()).unwrap()
lemmy.world
rtxn@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-24 |
That's literally what happened with the black PS5 shells. They used Sony's trademark without permission, got a cease and desist, and didn't learn a fucking thing from it. I'm sure they had the best intentions, but doing it twice was monumentally stupid. |
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Diplomjodler
lemmy.world
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-01-08 |
While Valve didn't do anything wrong from a legal standpoint here, I still think that's not very sporting of them. |
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WhoIzDisIz
lemmy.today
WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-04-27 |
That is one of the best and probably Most sincere apologies I’ve ever heard from a company. Sucks for the product, but those guys seem to be all right
This is a pattern for this company. The "apology" is marketing bullshit. This company is run by pure assholes - which I'll admit is hardly unusual, but don't let them manipulate you with reality distortion techniques. They've done it before, they did it here, and they'll do it again. "Fool me once," and all that. |
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WhoIzDisIz
lemmy.today
WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-04-27 |
While Valve didn't do anything wrong from a legal standpoint here, I still think that's not very sporting of them.
Look at Dbrand's history before condemning Valve. Thanks to @woelkchen@lemmy.world for pointing it out. |
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Vince
lemmy.world
Vince@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-08 |
Lol, I half expect them to just recolor or reskin it and call it something else, maybe tack on an easily removed plastic piece to make it look very different. Then people can just buy and repaint it |
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thingsiplay
lemmy.ml
thingsiplay@lemmy.mlJoined: 2026-01-09 |
You would think the people in charge of production would have pressed management on it: "Hey, did we get permission this time? Or is it the Dark Plates all over again?"
There is no need to ask for permission, if you can simply pray. It's an old trick and sometimes it even works. |
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MrQuallzin
pie.eyeofthestorm.place
MrQuallzin@pie.eyeofthestorm.place Joined: 2026-04-02 |
While Valve didn't do anything wrong from a legal standpoint here, I still think that's not very sporting of them.
Good graces only go so far. Dbrand has unfortunately done this before and didn't learn their lesson, no reason to play ball with them. |
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WhoIzDisIz
lemmy.today
WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-04-27 |
Yeah, nice to see companies taking ownership of mistakes. Shame they didn't ask first.
Look at Dbrand's history before giving them any sympathy. Thanks to @woelkchen@lemmy.world for pointing it out. |
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jordanlund
lemmy.world
jordanlund@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-30 |
While Valve didn't do anything wrong from a legal standpoint here, I still think that's not very sporting of them.
The biggest mistake Valve made was not shutting it down when it was announced. |
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Diplomjodler
lemmy.world
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-01-08 |
Look at Dbrand's history before condemning Valve. Thanks to @woelkchen@lemmy.world for pointing it out.
I said "not very sporting". That's hardly a condemnation. |
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Juviz
lemmy.zip
Juviz@lemmy.zip Joined: 2024-07-28 |
This is a pattern for this company. The "apology" is marketing bullshit. This company is run by pure assholes - which I'll admit is hardly unusual, but don't let them manipulate you with reality distortion techniques. They've done it before, they did it here, and they'll do it again. "Fool me once," and all that.
What happened before? I only know them from the LTT memes Edit: nvm, read the other comments |
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MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown
fedia.io
MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-03-07 |
Ouch... Getting injection moulds made is really REALLY pricey. That's an expensive lesson.
But really good marketing. They got the emails of a bunch of people interested in Steam hardware, they got their name out there to folks like me who’ve never heard of them. They put out a sincere sounding apology, gave automatic full refunds, and in 18 months I’ll probably remember them as a trustable brand but forget it was because they did a dumbass copyright infringement. |
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Diplomjodler
lemmy.world
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-01-08 |
Good graces only go so far. Dbrand has unfortunately done this before and didn't learn their lesson, no reason to play ball with them.
On the other hand, it was a cool product that many people would have enjoyed. And now it's gone. |
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nialv7
lemmy.world
nialv7@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-27 |
Why am I not surprised they didn’t get a license Why am I not surprised they went ahead without even asking to get a license?
This company sounds like a mess. |
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MimicJar
lemmy.world
MimicJar@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-05 |
Did they not learn from the PS5 dark plates? Why do they keep developing things without licensing or approval from rights holders? This seems like an easy lesson to learn. I imagine the engineering time and injection molds cost them a huge chunk of cash.
Sometimes it's best to ask for forgiveness rather than permission. They made a different dark plate later on that was different enough, they'll do the same thing here. We'll see "Friendly Cube" before the year is over. Plus huge marketing win. They probably got a bunch of new users to visit their website and saw a huge uptick in overall sales. |
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Rubanski
discuss.tchncs.de
Rubanski@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2025-06-26 |
The biggest mistake Valve made was not shutting it down when it was announced.
Maybe it was on purpose to stick it to dbrand and their questionable history of licensing |
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Lemmchen
feddit.org
Lemmchen@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-07-12 |
Idiots. |
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woelkchen
lemmy.world
woelkchen@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Just make Frank face plates. Surely nothing will go wrong.
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thisisbutaname
discuss.tchncs.de
thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2023-06-29 |
Sometimes it's best to ask for forgiveness rather than permission. They made a different dark plate later on that was different enough, they'll do the same thing here. We'll see "Friendly Cube" before the year is over. Plus huge marketing win. They probably got a bunch of new users to visit their website and saw a huge uptick in overall sales.
Ah, yes, the Christian way |
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SpaceNoodle
lemmy.world
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
On the other hand, it was a cool product that many people would have enjoyed. And now it's gone.
And I bet it could have gone quite smoothly if Dbrand had bothered to contact Valve before making it. |
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baller_w
lemmy.zip
baller_w@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-11-20 |
Release it as 3d printing templates open source 🙌 |
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mindbleach
sh.itjust.works
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-08-27 |
That's literally what happened with the black PS5 shells. They used Sony's trademark without permission, got a cease and desist, and didn't learn a fucking thing from it. I'm sure they had the best intentions, but doing it twice was monumentally stupid.
Off-brand PS5 shells should have been fine, unless they were dumb enough to copy Sony's logos and whatnot. It's just swoopy inert shapes and it's only designed to work with official hardware. |
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Diplomjodler
lemmy.world
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-01-08 |
And I bet it could have gone quite smoothly if Dbrand had bothered to contact Valve before making it.
I'm not in any way saying that they shouldn't have done that. |
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mrmaplebar
fedia.io
mrmaplebar@fedia.ioJoined: 2025-09-27 |
Well... that was pretty damn stupid, now wasn't it? Were they under the impression that they could capitalize off of one of Valve's biggest IPs without getting some kind of license or consent first? Who do they think they are, an AI company? |
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Tippy
sh.itjust.works
Tippy@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-14 |
While Valve didn't do anything wrong from a legal standpoint here, I still think that's not very sporting of them.
They caught a company stealing their intellectual property and lying to consumers that they had permission to create a product and fulfill orders as a result of that theft, and promptly shut their bullshit down. While I'm not a big fan of some IP laws and how they can be abused, I'm struggling to see how you think Valve deserves any reproach for this. This isn't even the first time this company has tried this shit and been slapped for it. At this point its a pattern of behavior that implies they are intentionally trying to steal and scam. |
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paraphrand
lemmy.world
paraphrand@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-12 |
I said "not very sporting". That's hardly a condemnation.
Well, the sport you are talking about is seeing how much you can steal and get away with. So… |
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Mearcfara
lemmy.ml
Mearcfara@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-05-11 |
It's cool that they copped to it as well as they did. I wouldn't have expected that. |
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SpaceNoodle
lemmy.world
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
I'm not in any way saying that they shouldn't have done that.
OK. It's still entirely their fault. |
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djdarren
piefed.social
djdarren@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-10-07 |
The biggest mistake Valve made was not shutting it down when it was announced.
Fair play though, it is pretty funny that they let DBrand spend all that money first. |
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ohulancutash
feddit.uk
ohulancutash@feddit.uk Joined: 2025-02-16 |
That sucks Wonder if they’ll release the CAD files?
The unlicenced copyright and trademark violating cad files? |
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DreamButt
lemmy.world
tdawg@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-16 |
Sometimes it's best to ask for forgiveness rather than permission. Ah, yes, the Christian way
Aka "buisness as usual" |
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DoucheBagMcSwag
lemmy.dbzer0.com
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Except Sony wants PC gamers to eat shit and expects them to buy their $1,000 console for PC quality games now. They would definitely not agree to that |
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woelkchen
lemmy.world
woelkchen@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Except Sony wants PC gamers to eat shit and expects them to buy their $1,000 console for PC quality games now. They would definitely not agree to that
dbrand wouldn't ask them – as usual |
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DoucheBagMcSwag
lemmy.dbzer0.com
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-07-01 |
They would definitely not agree to that dbrand wouldn't ask them – as usual
😅 oh shit of course they wouldn't |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
It's cool that they copped to it as well as they did. I wouldn't have expected that.
Yeah. This is the kind of response (as far as i can tell: open, honest) that makes me want to buy something from that company in the future. Like, you legitimately can't buy this kind of public relations. It sucks for the business, but doing the right thing by your customers gets you repeat customers. You can't get brand loyalty through a commercial. |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
Aka "buisness as usual"
tank you for spelling it rite |
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cardfire
sh.itjust.works
cardfire@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-03-02 |
But really good marketing. They got the emails of a bunch of people interested in Steam hardware, they got their name out there to folks like me who’ve never heard of them. They put out a sincere sounding apology, gave automatic full refunds, and in 18 months I’ll probably remember them as a trustable brand but forget it was because they did a dumbass copyright infringement.
You forget, many of the target audience also celebrate copyright infringement as a virtue. |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
The biggest mistake Valve made was not shutting it down when it was announced.
i won't fault valve's IP infringement team for missing one infringing product in a sea of [i'm not bothering to estimate] infringing products it's the fact that it's a companion cube [valveâ„¢] for a valve [valveâ„¢] video game [valveâ„¢] console [valveâ„¢] being made by notvalveâ„¢. if it was just a t-shirt on redbubble they could probably fly under the radar, but this is too close to confusing the consumer. like, how many people here automatically assumed they had valve's permission? which would imply some sort of partnership with valve, just by making the faceplates? ideally that's the kind of confusion IP law is supposed to prevent. how it's used vs how it was intended is another can of worms (and idealism versus pragmatism is a fun argument don't get me wrong) but we can pretend for a little bit. like, there's Coke trademarked to Coca Cola. no other soda or drink gets it. But in smelting and ironworks? There are a ton of coke companies. Because coke isn't soda in smelting. There's no confusion. |
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phonics
lemmy.world
phonics@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-15 |
The blunt version is that we made the Companion Cube without a license from Valve. Well... that was pretty damn stupid, now wasn't it? Were they under the impression that they could capitalize off of one of Valve's biggest IPs without getting some kind of license or consent first? Who do they think they are, an AI company?
They did hold peoples money. If they invested it before returning it. They could have made a fair chunk of change. Perhaps that was the plan all along. Risky play though. |
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