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Ex Sony Boss Shawn Layden Doesn't Agree With PlayStation Backing Out of PC, Says It Was Never About Making Money; “They Weren’t Going To Buy The Hardware Anyway”
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sanitation lemmy.today sanitation@lemmy.today
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littlelordfauntleroy lemmy.zip littlelordfauntleroy@lemmy.zip
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It's a shame PC won't be getting any more PS games, but I certainly won't be running out to buy a PS any time soon. There is more than enough on PC to keep me busy for ten lifetimes.

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femtek lemmy.blahaj.zone femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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Yeah, I'm never getting a console again. Maybe a mini PC for the front room once the Xbox dies.

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someguy3 lemmy.world someguy3@lemmy.world
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The logic, as Layden explains, was to mindshare with PC players. Why? Because PlayStation wanted their IPs to matter beyond video games, through mediums like TV, film, comics, merchandise, and other media.

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Godort lemmy.ca Godort@lemmy.ca
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I would be shocked that low revenue is the reason why Sony is pulling back from PC. I rather suspect it's optics tied to brand value rather than purely dollar value from a second platform

The PC version of every single Sony title runs better than on original hardware. The reasons for this are numerous, but it looks pretty bad for hardware sales if the software you design, running on the hardware you designed is the inferior experience.

On top of that, it's a cold reality that piracy is simply easier on PC than console. The numbers here are probably not enough to matter for purely accounting reasons, but execs like it if that number goes down.

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Mongostein lemmy.ca Mongostein@lemmy.ca
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Yeah, I'm never getting a console again. Maybe a mini PC for the front room once the Xbox dies.

Same. I never bothered with the series X and don’t feel like I’ve missed anything. I’m gaming on Mac Mini now. There’s lots of games that run natively on Mac and most windows games run through crossover and if they don’t, meh.

I’m hoping someone tells me how to install Steam OS on an Xbox One X though…

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[object Object] lemmy.ca panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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The logic, as Layden explains, was to mindshare with PC players. Why? Because PlayStation wanted their IPs to matter beyond video games, through mediums like TV, film, comics, merchandise, and other media.

Yeah what good is a franchise if nobody engages with it?

I mean, PlayStation has a big audience, they’re not nobody, but if you wanted to do a Jak and Daxter movie, you’d benefit from more people being fans.

But also, PC gamers will act with hostility when you insult or spurn them. It’s what Epic did wrong, it’s what XBox did wrong, there are countless examples.

I don’t really see the point of a console exclusive, the model of release to console then bring it to PC where there are myriad configurations to plan for just makes sense. Console players are happy, PC players are mostly happy. You sell more games.

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CMDR_Horn lemmy.world CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world
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I have a gaming PC, and there is a ps5 (wife's) in my house. i won't touch the ps5. I have bought multiple Sony titles on Steam... I'll never buy one for the ps5. This was disappointing to hear, but I won't reward them for a business decision I disagree with.

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kata1yst sh.itjust.works kata1yst@sh.itjust.works
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It's a shame PC won't be getting any more PS games, but I certainly won't be running out to buy a PS any time soon. There is more than enough on PC to keep me busy for ten lifetimes.

Completely agreed.

And happy cake day!

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littlelordfauntleroy lemmy.zip littlelordfauntleroy@lemmy.zip
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Completely agreed. And happy cake day!

Thanks 😁

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Zacryon feddit.org Zacryon@feddit.org
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Exactly. He understood it. I never had a Playstation, and probably never will. Unfortunate for some of the cool games they made. But there are a plethora more for PC I like. So it's neither a reason to buy the console, nor a big loss.

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rozodru piefed.world rozodru@piefed.world
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I mean why bother getting a console. how many exclusives does the PS5 have? 25. Plus the damn thing overheats more than the original 360. there's a youtube tech repair guy I follow and many of his posts are about customers bringing in PS5's that have overheated. hell today he had a youtube short up about all the overheated ps5's he's got in his backroom. why bother?

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Mac mander.xyz Mac@mander.xyz
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Today i played BG3 on my Linux box
And you think i want a console
For it's exclusives?

Lmao

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🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 pawb.social Kolanaki@pawb.social
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I mean why bother getting a console. how many exclusives does the PS5 have? 25. Plus the damn thing overheats more than the original 360. there's a youtube tech repair guy I follow and many of his posts are about customers bringing in PS5's that have overheated. hell today he had a youtube short up about all the overheated ps5's he's got in his backroom. why bother?

How many exclusives does the PS5 have? 25.

If you only count those exclusive to the PS5 and not simply the "PlayStation ecosystem," there are only 6.

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farmgineer nord.pub farmgineer@nord.pub
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I would be shocked that low revenue is the reason why Sony is pulling back from PC. I rather suspect it's optics tied to brand value rather than purely dollar value from a second platform The PC version of every single Sony title runs better than on original hardware. The reasons for this are numerous, but it looks pretty bad for hardware sales if the software you design, running on the hardwar...

In the Japanese domestic market, consoles are king by far. It's better than when I came a decade ago, but PC Gaming is still an expensive, niche hobby here. I don't know what percentage of their market and revenue are domestic vs. foreign and if that matters, but I can't help but think they looked at the domestic market a lot when deciding to do this.

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OrgunDonor lemmy.world OrgunDonor@lemmy.world
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How many exclusives does the PS5 have? 25. If you only count those exclusive to the PS5 and not simply the "PlayStation ecosystem," there are only 6.

That can't be right. You have;

Astrobot

Demon Souls

Ghost of Yotei

Sarous

And, it might be pretty close to 6 actually. I can't think of anything else.

Edit - seeing as I was on Wikipedia here is a list of PS5 exclusive games. Total is 25(including announced but unreleased) games.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games

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theskyisfalling lemmy.dbzer0.com theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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That can't be right. You have; Astrobot Demon Souls Ghost of Yotei Sarous And, it might be pretty close to 6 actually. I can't think of anything else. Edit - seeing as I was on Wikipedia here is a list of PS5 exclusive games. Total is 25(including announced but unreleased) games. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games

Demons Souls is PS exclusive but not a PS5 exclusive.

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🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 pawb.social Kolanaki@pawb.social
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#18 · Quote Reply

Demons Souls is PS exclusive but not a PS5 exclusive.

The remake is PS5 exclusive.

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OrgunDonor lemmy.world OrgunDonor@lemmy.world
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Demons Souls is PS exclusive but not a PS5 exclusive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon's_Souls_(2020_video_game)

Had to double check, but no, the remake is PS5 exclusive.

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theskyisfalling lemmy.dbzer0.com theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#20 · Quote Reply

The remake is PS5 exclusive.

Sure..... Kinda grasping at straws though xD

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🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 pawb.social Kolanaki@pawb.social
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Sure..... Kinda grasping at straws though xD

It does have content additions and changes you won't get with the OG PS3 version 🤷‍♂️

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theskyisfalling lemmy.dbzer0.com theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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It does have content additions and changes you won't get with the OG PS3 version 🤷‍♂️

Tbf I have only played the original, I was just being a pedant for the sake of it. Is it good?

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🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 pawb.social Kolanaki@pawb.social
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#23 · Quote Reply

Tbf I have only played the original, I was just being a pedant for the sake of it. Is it good?

I've only play the remake, and yeah. Except I have a bug getting past the super easy dragon gimmick boss (he keeps breathing fire at me while I am still back at the checkpoint so I can not get down the hallway to the puzzle part).

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theskyisfalling lemmy.dbzer0.com theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I've only play the remake, and yeah. Except I have a bug getting past the super easy dragon gimmick boss (he keeps breathing fire at me while I am still back at the checkpoint so I can not get down the hallway to the puzzle part).

That sucks! I know it isn't considered the best but it is my favourite souls game due to being my first, back in the day!

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zarathustrad lemmy.world zarathustrad@lemmy.world
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I mean why bother getting a console. how many exclusives does the PS5 have? 25. Plus the damn thing overheats more than the original 360. there's a youtube tech repair guy I follow and many of his posts are about customers bringing in PS5's that have overheated. hell today he had a youtube short up about all the overheated ps5's he's got in his backroom. why bother?

One could probably spend the next 4 years just playing a backlog of 50-75% discounted games made over the last 5 years on an "average" PC made in the last 2 years.

But... New thing shiny.

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