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VetOfTheSeas
discuss.online
VetOfTheSeas@discuss.onlineJoined: 2025-04-27 |
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zikzak025
lemmy.world
zikzak025@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-24 |
I've heard nothing encourages atheism better than Catholic School. People learn nothing makes sense and everything is a sin. So why bother anymore? |
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Optional
lemmy.world
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
That would require self-awareness and reflection. Never gonna happen. Not in Texas. |
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BlameTheAntifa
lemmy.world
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-07-22 |
I've heard nothing encourages atheism better than Catholic School. People learn nothing makes sense and everything is a sin. So why bother anymore?
Unfortunately, I can confirm this. |
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homes
piefed.world
homes@piefed.world Joined: 2025-12-28 |
I can personally attest to this. Once I critically engaged with the Bible, I almost instantly became an atheist. But it wasn’t until I read Milton’s paradise lost that I saw the Bible more as a piece of literary work, and really related to the character of Lucifer and engaged with the philosophy of rebellion |
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Diplomjodler
lemmy.world
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-01-08 |
Obviously they need to use the new "Bible According to St. Trump", not that woke old thing. |
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ceenote
lemmy.world
ceenote@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
When you force students to read something, there is no book so good the students won't hate it. The Bible is miserable to read even when you're not forced. Actually, Tess of the D'Urbervilles wasn't so bad, I guess. |
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CubitOom
infosec.pub
CubitOom@infosec.pubJoined: 2023-06-08 |
Obviously they need to use the new "Bible According to St. Trump", not that woke old thing.
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TheTechnician27
lemmy.world
TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-07-25 |
I've heard nothing encourages atheism better than Catholic School. People learn nothing makes sense and everything is a sin. So why bother anymore?
Read the Bible in full the summer before sixth grade because, well, it's the actual word of God, and eternity is infinitely more important than some 70-odd years. Besides, I'd already read Genesis and Exodus, and those were pretty interesting on their own. I did not spend sixth grade as a Christian. Edit: I will say, though, that Genesis has some crazy red flags I sort of just glossed over at the time, like the Levite's concubine. |
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Pennomi
lemmy.world
pennomi@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-17 |
I can personally attest to this. Once I critically engaged with the Bible, I almost instantly became an atheist. But it wasn’t until I read Milton’s paradise lost that I saw the Bible more as a piece of literary work, and really related to the character of Lucifer and engaged with the philosophy of rebellion
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joelle_ether
piefed.blahaj.zone
joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2026-06-02 |
I've heard nothing encourages atheism better than Catholic School. People learn nothing makes sense and everything is a sin. So why bother anymore?
catholic school turned me into a idealistic hippie xD |
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Malyca
lemmy.zip
Malyca@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-04-13 |
They plan on teaching them out of context and only including those about obeying. This will be like going to a mega church. |
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Taco2112
lemmy.world
Taco2112@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-02 |
I've heard nothing encourages atheism better than Catholic School. People learn nothing makes sense and everything is a sin. So why bother anymore?
Turned me into a Orthodox Agnostic
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SparroHawc
piefed.world
SparroHawc@piefed.world Joined: 2026-04-08 |
When you force students to read something, there is no book so good the students won't hate it. The Bible is miserable to read even when you're not forced. Actually, Tess of the D'Urbervilles wasn't so bad, I guess.
I also quite enjoyed Mary Renault's "The King Must Die" in high school. |
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homes
piefed.world
homes@piefed.world Joined: 2025-12-28 |
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I took an AP level world theology class my senior year of high school, and it was taught by the senior priest at my school. She, thankfully, taught it from a quite just dispassionate point of view, placing Christianity on an even level with every other religion we discussed, showing it both no favoritism, and positioning it, alongside the others, with no particular validity. She could clearly see that I was quite quickly progressing towards a position of atheism, and I was very much getting the feeling that it was a position she, even as a priest, held as well. There was a silent understanding between us. And I felt a bit of camaraderie with her. I learned an awful lot from that class. About different cultures and different societies and how different belief systems were formed. About how and why different people came to believe the things they do and why. It taught me a lot about different people and different perspectives. It might’ve been the best humanities course I ever took. and, because I was the only one who took the course, it was pretty much one on one. |
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UnderpantsWeevil
lemmy.world
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
I've heard nothing encourages atheism better than Catholic School. People learn nothing makes sense and everything is a sin. So why bother anymore?
YMMV. There's layers to this cake. One of the most notable is in how it's deliberately excluding other religious beliefs. If you are a practicing Muslim, for instance, you get singled out and tormented by state officials if you demonstrate any kind of piety that isn't state-approved. Similarly, outspoken atheists (or squishy liberal Methodists or Unitarians) become lightening rods for school admins looking to prove they're zealous enough in their Christianization to drop the hammer on non-believers. All lot of the second order effects of this won't be just annoying students with Christianity until they dislike it as much as they dislike Math. It's going to be opening up naked harassment and bullying of non-Christians, while turning the school bureaucracy against anyone who is outwardly non-conforming. I vividly remember this happening in my own Middle/High School life, way back in the 90s, when Evolution and Gay were the whipping kids of the religious right. The end result was lots of good people being purged from the system for petty and arbitrary reasons, while a lot of utter assholes got cushy positions in the school board and upper wings of the administrative offices to rubber stamp the abuse. |
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GaMEChld
lemmy.world
GaMEChld@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-14 |
Twud be hilarious if that's what they needed this whole time in order to be more Christ like. 12 years of homework to read their one book. |
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jtrek
startrek.website
jtrek@startrek.website Joined: 2026-02-22 |
I don't think conservatives have the, like, object permanence, to regret their decisions |
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Jo Miran
lemmy.ml
JoMiran@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-29 |
I, an atheist, was forced to study the bible in a Catholic school I attended. First, it turned me into an atheist. Second, it made me realize that Jesus was a hard core anti establishment communist.pacifist. |
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BarneyPiccolo
lemmy.today
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-30 |
I took an AP level world theology class my senior year of high school, and it was taught by the senior priest at my school. She, thankfully, taught it from a quite just dispassionate point of view, placing Christianity on an even level with every other religion we discussed, showing it both no favoritism, and positioning it, alongside the others, with no particular validity. She could clearly s...
The more you learn about religion in general, the clearer it becomes that it is entirely a mechanism to control the people. It is such a good mechanism for it, in fact, that literally EVERY culture throughout history has employed it for that very use. |
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baggachipz
sh.itjust.works
baggachipz@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-19 |
Holding it upside down, such a perfect metaphor. He probably didn’t know how to hold it because he doesn’t know what the fuck a book actually is. |
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ChicoSuave
lemmy.world
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-12 |
As soon as they get to Numbers or Judges students will see some big problems with American Christianity. |
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switcheroo
lemmy.world
switcheroo@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-08-01 |
Christiofascists HATE when you quote the actual Bible to them |
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Christiofascists HATE when you quote the actual Bible to them
@switcheroo @VetOfTheSeas I have quoted the Bible to some people online who leapt to the conclusion that I was Christian. When I told them that I was not, they generally freaked out. One of them threatened to kill me. |
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Bubbaonthebeach
lemmy.ca
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-02-15 |
When I was 12 it was customary in my family's religion to become baptized. It isn't done for babies but for older children and adults to decide for themselves. I decided I should read the whole Bible before I committed. I ended up leaving the religion. My parents were starting to question it as well and also left around that time. Many of the people I know who have left that or other Christian religions have done so after they finally read the Bible themselves and not the select verses in church services. Not everyone who reads it leaves, some find what they need to stay, but from personal experience it is many more leaving than staying. |
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honesthenery
thelemmy.club
honesthenery@thelemmy.clubJoined: 2026-05-01 |
Texas is such a fly over state... |
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honesthenery
thelemmy.club
honesthenery@thelemmy.clubJoined: 2026-05-01 |
He looks like a baby who shit his pants |
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Uriel238 [all pronouns]
lemmy.blahaj.zone
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2023-06-25 |
I suspect the new law was not actually considered at length but was, as Dan McClellan might suggest, used by legislators as costly signaling to show their campaign contributors that they are true white Christian nationalists and therefore worth the money being thrown their way. But yes, kids will get impatient at bible passages just as much as they were impatient with Animal Farm or The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas or To Kill A Mockingbird (I speak from experience. I was introduced to classics in elementary grammar school and entirely unable to appreciate why they were so profound until much later in life when I could think about them critically.) And yeah, those kids smart enough to think about bible passages critically will be on the fast-track to personal faith deconstruction. |
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ouRKaoS
lemmy.today
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-10-20 |
Texas is such a fly over state...
There's a lot of guns there, make sure you fly at a higher altitude so they don't try to make you join them. |
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Pistachio
lemmy.zip
Pistachio@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-10-26 |
Texas is such a fly over state...
I feel like you have a different definition of "fly over state" than is commonly used. As I understand it, FOS are states in which no one lives, no cultural value, and there is nothing much to see; like tornado alley or Nevada. Texas has 4 of the top 10 most populous cities in the US, and Austin, which has a million residents, is probably gunna break into that list soon. Because of this large population, there is a fuckload of cultural diversity. That being said, if you're making this statement due to that massive void in the middle of the state, then add Cali to the list of FOS, but good luck getting that idea into the public square unscathed. |
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watson
sopuli.xyz
watson387@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2023-06-06 |
He looks like a baby who shit his pants
He always looks like that |
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watson
sopuli.xyz
watson387@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2023-06-06 |
When you force students to read something, there is no book so good the students won't hate it. The Bible is miserable to read even when you're not forced. Actually, Tess of the D'Urbervilles wasn't so bad, I guess.
I dug The Crucible. |
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