I'm glad I got banned from r/linuxsucks101 before I got perma-banned from reddit

He 100% going to be banned, I was banned with doing nothing wrong there. The mods there are bit crazy

Sure, and Internet speeds probably matter a bit too. The download part was a bit faster than I remember, but then it hung up on the later parts for a while. Lol

That pissed me so off, when i had to reinstall a bunch of notebooks at work... they didn't even have an ethernet port, so i had to dig out some docking station from the trash pile in the server room.

No offense, but what are you installing it on? One of the things I oversee at my job is imaging. Installing fresh windows on any of our hardware is between 7 and 15 minutes total. Since windows 10 I also haven't seen any need for additional drivers either unless you have something uncommon or want to replace one. Not trying to defend Windows, I just can't understand how everyone always has the worst problems imaginable with it.

When I tried to install Windows 10 2 years ago on my mini PC it tried to install wifi drivers but failed. Wifi only worked after manually downloading and installing the driver. Various Linux distros were plug and play and wifi worked out of the box.

I use win only at work anymore, no choice. Update and shut down is the biggest fucking lie. I press it every time, it never did shut down.

If you don't have an Ethernet connection, fairly regularly

It's at least better than the Vista days where it didn't even have an Ethernet driver consistently, and you had to download your Ethernet driver from another computer 🤷‍♂️

The performance comments were a dead giveaway.

Nobody's complaints with setting Linux up are that it runs slowly.

It may not run much of anything until you sort out your drivers properly, but it will do everything incorrectly LIGHTNING fast, compared to Windows.

"...in geological terms."

Yeah I clocked the twist halfway through, Linux isn't perfect but most are simply not Linux issues.

In the case I'm referencing, I was installing Windows 11 for a five year old gaming computer using the Windows 10 upgrade software, no USB or anything like that.

Technically I was going to use a custom USB made with Rufus to remove copilot, but by the time I got there they had already started the upgrade process. It really did take two hours, including the 15 minutes before I got there.

Oh good. I fucking hate the snap store and thought it was my incompetence making it terrible, but here's at least one other

It gets worse. For some reason InTune managed machines I deploy at work don't even work HARDWIRED. It only works if you use a USB C to Ethernet adapter. No, it is not missing an Ethernet port. It just doesn't work for absolutely no reason. I just did a remote InTune training, and had to download drivers from Dell's website, extract the exe (lol), put it on a flash drive, and install it manually before I could even log into Windows.

Why and which did you use? I haven't had an issue with KDE Discover. Pop Shop was ass a few years back but it works well now that it is "Cosmic Store".

I think Flatpaks are the future for general user installed apps. It's way more secure and user friendly for non tech people. I've even had some flatpaks run significantly better, like Brave, despite conventional wisdom saying otherwise for a browser.

You can technically do that but app images have their own issues.

I just got banned from a community called Linux sucks this morning 😂 what a weird community! Like if you don't like Linux just don't use it? People are so strange

Ironically I liked Chocolatey package manager on Windows. Hitting update and everything just updates is great. I hate launching a program and it’s like “here’s an update you need to do before using this and if you kick it down the road you’ll forget about it till next time you launch me”

The only reason windows file explorer opens in sub 3 seconds is because it's bundled with the desktop and taskbar.

Admitting that works, then you've only got windows. You still have to install all the tools and productivity software. On any distribution, all that stuff gets installed as a matter of fact, and you're basically done after 20 minutes or so.

The GNOME one that comes with Debian is useless. There's like 3 things on it and of course they're all out of date (Debian thing). It also doesn't work to uninstall applications. The Ubuntu one of course pushes snaps so it's no good. The Mint one likewise pushes flatpaks. In general across all of them there never seems to be much listed on them, so going there to browse isn't useful. I can't think of any other specific issues but just in general over the past 8 years they are always buggy and annoying to use.

I haven't used KDE's store before.

I mean if you dont know jack shit about linux or arch and try to follow the guide I'd imagine it could take you quite a while. It took me a while at least.

You can also download and double click executables that have no dependencies (like Pocketbase). The installation process handles resolving dependencies.

Nobody’s complaints with setting Linux up are that it runs slowly.

I mean, really depends on the device. I've got a machine running Mint and it kinda chugs along. But it's... I want to say at least 15 years old? Probably due for a RAM swap at the very least. Takes about five minutes to fully boot and if I run more than a few apps it drags.

At some point, there's only so much an OS can do for you.

The bit about incompatible drivers and the mess of third-party installs necessary to get it in a comfortable state also rang true. Plus all the minutea of configuration, so you're not typing in your password every time you sneeze. Windows does tend to come fully loaded out of the box, even if you're using a bunch of their mediocre native apps. And the desktop instance tends to be pre-configured to satisfy your average desktop user.

Of course, Apple takes all of this to the next level. Really straight jacking everything you can do so that it's a unform experience from device to device. And I hate that shit, too, even if my machine boots fast straight out of the box.

I did hear Arch is a bit more trouble, yeah. CachyOS was pretty straightforward from desktop environment to automatically detecting hardware and such. Pretty much the same features you see with Windows, just a lot faster.

but... if you are new why.. arch? jsut use idk mint?

Man that subreddit is a trip. Really funny to actively hate FOSS on ideological grounds because you just love corporations and markets so much.

There’s one here on Lemmy too. I got banned this morning for sharing this post lol.

Here’s a post from it defending Telemetry of all things.

Some people like to make it hard on themselves. Or someone recommended it and they don’t know any better

Yeah I was just about to edit my comment to mention that. Like bro why are you here it's built on the same ethos you hate in linux.

Every. Time.

Lol the guy talks about linux like it's his job or special interest.

Solidworks/PDM at work. 🙄

No it won't be changing until Win11 actually breaks or dassault scraps PDM(actually as much or more of a trashfire as windows). I'll just find a new career eventually.

"love corporations"

How about I despise communism and how it only works when workers are forced to work at gunpoint. Or, I haven't seen any legit gripes against Microsoft.

Politically, I'm centrist, because both pure extremes fail. -China isn't 100% communist.

Linux takes the position of 'competition' for Windows while being an eternal loser. They squash other great projects by taking their ideas and making them work with then objectively shitty (for desktop) kernel.

Linux is a 'best case scenario' for Windows. (Yeah, you're actually helping Microsoft by being an evangelist).

You got banned for breaking the rules.
Integrity isn't common among evangelists.

Then why do people pretend that being 'downvoted to hell' means anything here? Why would they point and say 'echo chamber' hypocritically?

The truth is that Reddit is shady AF with their shadow bans, control of information, inconsistent rule following, etc. I'm actually trying to get more users here.

I tried on Gab. -What happens when I correct someone on Gab about Linux? -They upvote and thank me for it! A community there for "Linux sucks" served no purpose.

edit: I'm also against religion (worse cult) and didn't want to support the owner's evangelism. -But the site is ran pretty decent, and it's not bad when curated (another shady thing about Reddit is the limitation on blocking users).

Ngl file explorers on Linux suck some massive ass unless you use like Krusader or ranger or terminal based stuff. Dolphin, Caja, nemo, Thunar, Nautilus, all of them are so fucking convoluted that it feels like they are consciously designed to do the things you least expect and in the most roundabout way at all times.

It makes more sense if you see capitalism as a game and these folks as gamer fanbois.

Oh that's pretty cool I didn't realize that.

I prefer flatpaks so Mint's is OK by me, but admittedly I have yet to actually daily drive Mint. Fair enough on the rest.

Not true. They complain because of no hardware decoding, defaults lacking GPU acceleration, they complain about KDEs file manager, Gimp, Libre Office, etc. If you had problems with Windows, maybe consider 'skill issue'.

Communism literally never had a chance to evolve as a system because USA systematically fucked it over and fought it at every step, in the process committing horrific crimes against humanity along the way. Would you like some historical examples of what capitalism has done to humanity and democracy worldwide for centuries or are you just more of a "see the thing with communism is... It just doesn't work!" kind of guy?

Really funny to actively hate FOSS on ideological grounds because you just love corporations and markets so much.

Yeah, especially when there are so many legitimate ideological grounds you could use to hate on FOSS, like: https://cosocial.ca/@mhoye/116851056980506739

'works on my machine' -one of the most ignorant arguments.

The same model Motherboards can have different sound, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth chips.

You're trusting unsigned, reverse engineered, and amateur developed drivers in ring 0 which can possibly damage your hardware and firmware.

It's not something to casually recommend people do.

I think we should also have a community with name bigtechsuck

Please read what I wrote again. I'm not about arguing with someone who glazes.

Oh my god not the rules!

There he is! Evangelism, sure. Idk man you got some weird shit going on, but you do you. 👍