Now that it's finally plugged in again. I just finished moving the socket I had wired up further to the right so I could put one of the cabinets I pulled out during installation next to it. Which necessitated making the cabinet structurally sound, because these cabinets are crap. Which required shoring up and leveling the counter. Before which I had to pull the new sink out again and remount it correctly.

Your pad sounds like a shit hole.

Why in the world would a dishwasher need firmware?

Why does a dishwasher need to download firmware updates? I suddenly feel really old.

Don’t forget to keep enjoying the benefits of connectivity.

what benefits of connectivity do you get?

Possibly to patch the security vulnerability they didn't tell you about. Which could, in theory, prevent your dish washer from mining bitcoin after it was comprised.

So far just a notification that it's done. That's pretty much all I expected. I didn't get it for the online feature.

I….dont know. They were saying stuff about intelligent cycles or something. Who knows if it's true.

that’s cool, maybe in the future it can use ai to see if some dishes are still dirty and give another wash, or in the future future targeted streams that can focus directly on the worst bits

Apparently it does have some level of dirt sensitivity! And it looks like I can make custom “smart cycles.” and it does tell me how much energy it uses, which I like, because electricity is stupid expensive here. I dunno. I can tell you it does a good job getting my dishes clean, and that's my priority.

It's all malarkey. Technology connections has good videos on dishwashers and how to optimize their performance

I watched that before I bought this. I do the things. It gets my dishes clean. It tells me when it's done. Bing bang boom. That's all I need.

Lol you watched a video about why you shouldn't buy one of these... And you still bought one?

To operate the hardware. We’ve had firmware as long as we’ve had electronics.

The real question is: Why does a dishwasher need to be connected to the internet? That just opens it up to all sorts of online threats and creates more problems than it solves.

Dishwashers shouldn't need firmware.

Add the dishes. Add the soap. Press the button. Wait like 40 minutes. Now you have clean dishes.

What's to update?

So they can introduce monthly subscriptions?

Dunno what you mean. I watched this video on how to get the most out of your dishwasher. These are the things I do, and it all, works great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHP942Livy0

that's one fancy washing machine 😎

I assume you're in an apartment and can't get solar/battery?

Like that one time a chemical plants internal systems were hacked through a coffee machine.

To get instructions from your refrigerator that is already part of a botnet.

stuff about intelligent cycles

They're called motorcycles smh

I have a dishwasher that does all those things without using the internet at all.

I really like how lots of appliance manufacturers skipped from basic circuitry and the occasional relay straight to networked slop with a controller app.

What happend to quality embeded programming?
My old TV had an optional firmware update feature through a USB stick if for some reason the well tested factory software wasn't up to spec on something.

So it says but the cheapest pods money can buy, not to buy an iot dishwasher.

If it’s connected, it can be hacked. All you need is an Internet connection and some skill.

I'd have been pretty happy to be able to update it to fix the dishwasher that came with our house.

It could not, no matter what you did, resume a cycle. If it was paused for any reason, the only way out was to power it off and start a new wash.

The drain pump also sounded like shaking a soup can full of nuts and bolts, which contributed more to it being replaced than did the shonky electronics.

About the connection to the internet... Eh I've got no idea. But if your home starts the dishwasher when the pv delivers enough power or the battery is full then it's useful. That doesn't need to be public to the internet or an connection to the outside. Just an open API.

Keep enjoying the benefits of connectivity.

Meanwhile I actively try not to update anything that isn't strictly necessary.

Speaking as a professional: if the chemical plant itself was hacked through a coffee machine, then several other people have already thoroughly fucked the Swiss cheese and the entire IT infrastructure needs to be audited. Devices in a public area should NEVER have been allowed to talk to production machines in the first place.

Yeah, it sounds like it was a disaster waiting to happen.

Nay, this is my first house. I would love to start going solar, but I don't think it's in the budget this year.

It gets really ominous when you read it as an order, rather than encouragement.

A casino was hacked by via an aquarium thermometer

https://thehackernews.com/2018/04/iot-hacking-thermometer.html

.. To update the firmware if course!

You might ask why do you need to update the firmware , well to fix vulnerabilities from being connected to the internet.

Welp if you get a chance it's a huge money saver and stress saver, my electricity bill has gone down to like $5 a month

I get https://flowpower.com.au/residential/ 45c a kwh I export into the grid during peak times as well so that eats into my daily supply charge because I pretty much never get power from the grid anymore

May I ask about how many total kWh you use per month?

Unfortunately the bars don't start at 0 but should give you a rough idea:

The electricity bill only shows what I got from the grid so last month it said 28kwh i slurped up, and I got it in the middle of the day when prices were low/negative so they gave me a discount for it

Wow. Those are yearly numbers, correct? I use anywhere from 900-1450 kWh per month. My heat pumps need a lot of juice.

yeah im only a tiny user, with the heat pump doing only 1-2kwh as i live alone

https://reclaimenergy.com.au/products/residential/

so my biggest power user is at night when I ship half my battery to the grid

The latest firmware tells the manufacturer what you ate, and with how many you where. Now it can also discuss with the fridge the vitamins and calories you had and determine together what needs to be in stock.