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Treczoks lemmy.world Treczoks@lemmy.world
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#2 · Quote Reply

The Christians that feel prosecuted are those who bang on your door in order to convert you and get reported for being intrusive and breaking some laws.

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root lemmy.wtf IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf
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#3 · Quote Reply

they asked this in the suburbs btw.

Christianity is still SERIOUSLY prosecuted in most parts of the south

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hendrik palaver.p3x.de hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
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#4 · (edited) Quote Reply

It's a known phenomenon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_persecution_complex

Though seems to me that persecution narrative must be pushed top-down by a minority, if 96% of the actual people vote "No".

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rafoix lemmy.zip rafoix@lemmy.zip
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#5 · Quote Reply

It's a known phenomenon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_persecution_complex Though seems to me that persecution narrative must be pushed top-down by a minority, if 96% of the actual people vote "No".

It’s seems like a psy-op by the wealthy.

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vala lemmy.dbzer0.com vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#6 · Quote Reply

they asked this in the suburbs btw. Christianity is still SERIOUSLY prosecuted in most parts of the south

South of what

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FuglyDuck lemmy.world FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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#7 · Quote Reply

It’s seems like a psy-op by the wealthy.

not... well. maybe it is. but not directly.

The messaging is there to keep people from leaving.

they'll be told things like "that person was rude to you becuase you're a Christian!" or "you lost your job because you were a Christian!" or any of a dozen things that have nothing to do with. (sometimes, in point of fact, they push you to do things that will make people angry at you. like knocking on their door at seven AM on a fucking Sunday. this is, for example, the point of the Mormon's mission... or JW's.)

along with all this, they'll get you to burn bridges with your support systems; and to annoy everyone around you.

The whole goal is to keep you from leaving, even though they're incredibly toxic.

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FuglyDuck lemmy.world FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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#8 · Quote Reply

they asked this in the suburbs btw. Christianity is still SERIOUSLY prosecuted in most parts of the south

the south of where?

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okwhateverdude lemmy.world okwhateverdude@lemmy.world
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#9 · Quote Reply

they asked this in the suburbs btw. Christianity is still SERIOUSLY prosecuted in most parts of the south

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_megachurches_in_the_United_States

How many on that list are in southern US states? Seems odd for so many massive churches to all exist in places where christianity is supposedly persecuted.

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hendrik palaver.p3x.de hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
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#10 · (edited) Quote Reply

not... well. maybe it is. but not directly. The messaging is there to keep people from leaving. they'll be told things like "that person was rude to you becuase you're a Christian!" or "you lost your job because you were a Christian!" or any of a dozen things that have nothing to do with. (sometimes, in point of fact, they push you to do things that will make people angry at you. like knocking ...

Literally everything organized religion does is a psy-op to manipulate people 😅

I think it's an interesting discussion to be had, whether it's done by "the wealthy". We have account that Jesus was kinda against the rich. I mean he flipped some tables and everything. And young Christianity also had something going on with the camel and the needle's hole. And we have more paragraphs than just John and Timothy... But boy did they turn that upside down with what we have as of today. Especially in the USA. I think "they" accomplished their goal. Interesting, though, how the establishment (in modern times) often comes with some urge to claim victimhood. And I don't think it's traditionally part of totalitarianism.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#11 · Quote Reply

the yes people are likely far right christians, which arnt really true christians.

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Zier fedia.io Zier@fedia.io
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they asked this in the suburbs btw. Christianity is still SERIOUSLY prosecuted in most parts of the south

Mate, you left off the /s.

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FuglyDuck lemmy.world FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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Literally everything organized religion does is a psy-op to manipulate people 😅 I think it's an interesting discussion to be had, whether it's done by "the wealthy". We have account that Jesus was kinda against the rich. I mean he flipped some tables and everything. And young Christianity also had something going on with the camel and the needle's hole. And we have more paragraphs than just Joh...

so... Jesus wasn't actually against the rich nearly as much as people make him seem these days.

The flipping of the tables wasn't that they were doing business or even taking advantage of people. it was that they were doing business inside the temple.

as for all the "go sell your shit and follow me" stuff... well. yeah. Imagine, if you will Jesus with a cheesy sleazey-car-salesman grin and his hand out. Also notice that he really had a thing for hanging out with rich people.

none of the disciples were particularly poor. Mathew was a tax collector. James and John were both heirs to a successful fishing business, two of the others were senior employees in that business. he dined with and partied with the rich all the time, too. Joseph himself would have been well off (as a tekton, he wasn't exactly poor. He was the guy that built everyone's homes and such.) (though Mary probably fled from Joseph when he found out she was preggers. details)

basically, he acted and sounded like every half-baked cult leader you can imagine.

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root lemmy.wtf IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf
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#14 · Quote Reply

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_megachurches_in_the_United_States How many on that list are in southern US states? Seems odd for so many massive churches to all exist in places where christianity is supposedly persecuted.

south of the world

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root lemmy.wtf IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf
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#15 · Quote Reply

the south of where?

earth

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root lemmy.wtf IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf
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#16 · Quote Reply

South of what

earth

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StillAlive piefed.world StillAlive@piefed.world
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#17 · Quote Reply

south of the world

South America? Australia? New Zealand? Southern Africa?

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root lemmy.wtf IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf
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#18 · Quote Reply

South America? Australia? New Zealand? Southern Africa?

look up what the Global South means

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homes piefed.world homes@piefed.world
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#19 · Quote Reply

Merry Christmas, motherfucker

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TrickDacy lemmy.world TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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#20 · Quote Reply

look up what the Global South means

It's almost like you could've written that to begin with instead of being vague af

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TrickDacy lemmy.world TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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#21 · Quote Reply

they asked this in the suburbs btw. Christianity is still SERIOUSLY prosecuted in most parts of the south
  1. what are you talking about? Vague shit is not helping you make your point.

  2. prosecuted?

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StillAlive piefed.world StillAlive@piefed.world
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#22 · (edited) Quote Reply

look up what the Global South means

The demographic of Christianity continues to shift from the Global North (Europe, North America) to the Global South (Africa, Asia, Latin America). Christianity in the Global South is growing both qualitatively and quantitatively at a phenomenal pace in comparison to Global North Christianity.

https://lausanne.org/global-analysis/perspectives-from-global-south-christianity

Hmm. Such persecution, much complex.

Edit: Also, both South America and Africa make up for a good chunk of the global south so my comment wasn't even that far off.

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FuglyDuck lemmy.world FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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#23 · Quote Reply

look up what the Global South means

The global south is not a geographic term...

and for every example of a country where christians are systematically persecuted, we can find examples of christians persecuting other religions.

No one is saying it doesn't happen. But we are say it's not nearly as common as christians make it seem. and even then, most cases, christians are being persecuted by other christians. It's pretty wild.

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adarza piefed.ca adarza@piefed.ca
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#24 · Quote Reply

lemme guess....

25 persons voted, including the moron that created this 'poll'.

(24/25 is exactly 96 percent)

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CovfefeKills lemmy.world CovfefeKills@lemmy.world
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#25 · Quote Reply

earth

There is Christains in Gaza and Lebanon being murdered right now by the IDF if you wanted an actual example...

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root lemmy.wtf IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf
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#26 · Quote Reply

The demographic of Christianity continues to shift from the Global North (Europe, North America) to the Global South (Africa, Asia, Latin America). Christianity in the Global South is growing both qualitatively and quantitatively at a phenomenal pace in comparison to Global North Christianity. https://lausanne.org/global-analysis/perspectives-from-global-south-christianity Hmm. Such persecution...

hundreds of christians are being arrested in India due to anti-conversion laws

hundreds of christians are being shot in the middle east by both sides

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Whats_your_reasoning lemmy.world Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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#27 · Quote Reply

south of the world

Huh, I didn't realize penguins were so anti-christian.

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ryan213 lemmy.ca ryan213@lemmy.ca
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#28 · Quote Reply

South of what

South Of Heaven... \m/

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mycodesucks lemmy.world mycodesucks@lemmy.world
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#29 · Quote Reply

Christians don't get persecuted for being Christians.

They get persecuted for acting like insufferable assholes. Don't do that and there won't be a problem.

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vic_rattlehead lemmy.world vic_rattlehead@lemmy.world
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#30 · Quote Reply

There is Christains in Gaza and Lebanon being murdered right now by the IDF if you wanted an actual example...

They are, but not because they are Christian.

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scutiger lemmy.world scutiger@lemmy.world
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#31 · (edited) Quote Reply

They're so persecuted, they're afraid of answering yes on this poll! Incontrovertible evidence of Christian persecution!

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CovfefeKills lemmy.world CovfefeKills@lemmy.world
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#32 · Quote Reply

They are, but not because they are Christian.

Well it is, it's because they aren't Jewish.

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Rivermoonwolf lemmy.world Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world
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#33 · Quote Reply

they asked this in the suburbs btw. Christianity is still SERIOUSLY prosecuted in most parts of the south

No they're not, despite how hard we try

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root lemmy.wtf IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf
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#34 · Quote Reply

No they're not, despite how hard we try

they are

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Madzielle lemmy.dbzer0.com Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#35 · (edited) Quote Reply

look up what the Global South means

The most ignorant and rude question I have, which I just dont understand.. Before europe went and colonized and raped the global south, they did not have christianty

It blows my mind how many have taken to heart the religion thrust apon them by european colonists who's sole intention was to erase indigeious culture and voice, why do so many praise the european god?
Why would folks not cherish thier own and throw out religion of the whites colonizer?

here in north america, they "re-schooled" and ran conversion operations to destroy the native culture and assimilate them into the white norms. It was brutal, violent, ugly, and genocide.

Now anyone I meet from the global south, (specifically the caribean and south/central America) is deeply christian/catholic?
A religion forced apon the people of the land with violence and no choice?

I ..dont understand the acceptence in severed histories from your own people.

edit: I feel like if anywhere christiainity should be persecuted is the places if was forced on native populations violently with no choice, IE, south americans countries and the caribean, yet again, everyone Ive met from those places follow the colonizers relgion.

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root lemmy.wtf IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf
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#36 · Quote Reply

The most ignorant and rude question I have, which I just dont understand.. Before europe went and colonized and raped the global south, they did not have christianty It blows my mind how many have taken to heart the religion thrust apon them by european colonists who's sole intention was to erase indigeious culture and voice, why do so many praise the european god? Why would folks not cherish t...

They did, in fact, have Christianity

Multiple members of religious orders went to the South before colonization, and some of them even condemned colonization

Christianity existed way before colonization in the South

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Rivermoonwolf lemmy.world Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world
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#37 · Quote Reply

they are

You have actual proof, or is this a trust me, ma'am type deal?

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Madzielle lemmy.dbzer0.com Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#38 · (edited) Quote Reply

They did, in fact, have Christianity Multiple members of religious orders went to the South before colonization, and some of them even condemned colonization Christianity existed way before colonization in the South

what was there before the missionaries though?

I didnt think of that. Of course, Im more versed (albeit still ignorant to a lot) in what happened to the native peoples of my very north region, but

idk. Ive just, The peoples who were genocided here, what culture remains, it seems they really respected life and the earth for what it gave. I often wonder how the world would have looked without colonization and missionaries. I didnt think of them, the missionaries prior, so, thanks for informing me of that. Its still.. another cultures religion, pushing thier religion on someone else. Like their the door knockers of history.

I guess I should listen to this again, this creator has done a few episodes in south and central america, and it has had me in tears.

https://youtu.be/BRB9dJmZhVk

Fall of Civilizations Podcast, ep. 12, The Incas

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AngryCommieKender lemmy.world AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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#39 · Quote Reply

they asked this in the suburbs btw. Christianity is still SERIOUSLY prosecuted in most parts of the south

In what way?

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root lemmy.wtf IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf
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#40 · Quote Reply

what was there before the missionaries though? I didnt think of that. Of course, Im more versed (albeit still ignorant to a lot) in what happened to the native peoples of my very north region, but idk. Ive just, The peoples who were genocided here, what culture remains, it seems they really respected life and the earth for what it gave. I often wonder how the world would have looked without col...

Christianity reached the South via missionaries (not that kind) wayyy before the Odd Millennia ever started at all, and before colonization or bloodshed

Many missionaries that came to the South before colonization were extremely peaceful and some of them were even martyred

and "religion" is not "culture"

completely seperate things

your faith shouldnt depend on where you were born

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root lemmy.wtf IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf
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#41 · Quote Reply

You have actual proof, or is this a trust me, ma'am type deal?

https://www.ucanews.com/news/christians-in-asia-among-most-persecuted-in-world-report/111609

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root lemmy.wtf IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf
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#42 · Quote Reply

In what way?

https://www.ucanews.com/news/christians-in-asia-among-most-persecuted-in-world-report/111609

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AngryCommieKender lemmy.world AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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#43 · (edited) Quote Reply

https://www.ucanews.com/news/christians-in-asia-among-most-persecuted-in-world-report/111609

Ahh, I see you meant the global south, which india isn't really part of, since it is north of the Equator.

Also you are ignoring the persecution of other religions.

If Christianity is actually persecuted, then they brought it on themselves. Shouldn't have forced indigenous peoples to abandon their religions, and forced them to become Christians. Y'all should have been better neighbors, not bothering other people with your bullshit constantly. If you acted like any other religion, you wouldn't have the backlash.

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CADmonkey lemmy.world CADmonkey@lemmy.world
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#44 · Quote Reply

A religion that has a building dedicated to it on every street corner does not get to claim they are persecuted.

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root lemmy.wtf IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf
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#45 · Quote Reply

Ahh, I see you meant the global south, which india isn't really part of, since it is north of the Equator. Also you are ignoring the persecution of other religions. If Christianity is actually persecuted, then they brought it on themselves. Shouldn't have forced indigenous peoples to abandon their religions, and forced them to become Christians. Y'all should have been better neighbors, not both...

"it didnt happen but if it did you probably deserved it"

and no man shall be punished for the crimes of his father

and "every other religion" LOL

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AngryCommieKender lemmy.world AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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#46 · (edited) Quote Reply

"it didnt happen but if it did you probably deserved it" and no man shall be punished for the crimes of his father and "every other religion" LOL

Name one other religion that engages in door to door proselytism. I'll wait.

Your own violence begat the violence that you receive.

Also, I said "any other religion," stop lying. Typical US Christian.

Also, don't quote the Bible at me. I don't follow your fanfiction book, so it doesn't apply to me.

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Rivermoonwolf lemmy.world Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world
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#47 · Quote Reply

https://www.ucanews.com/news/christians-in-asia-among-most-persecuted-in-world-report/111609

My bad, I thought I was responding to comment about Xtians being "persecuted" in the South. My mistake .

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Madzielle lemmy.dbzer0.com Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#48 · (edited) Quote Reply

Christianity reached the South via missionaries (not that kind) wayyy before the Odd Millennia ever started at all, and before colonization or bloodshed Many missionaries that came to the South before colonization were extremely peaceful and some of them were even martyred and "religion" is not "culture" completely seperate things your faith shouldnt depend on where you were born

culture.. religion, yeah sure, youre right, but they do go hand in hand.

And I guess your faith shouldnt depend on where one is born, but chrisanity's goal has always been to "spread" thier religion whether the people want it or not.

For a long time (and arguably still today), what religion you follow is heavily dependent on where you are born.

Which is why I asked what exsisted before the missionaries came to the americas.

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root lemmy.wtf IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf
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#49 · Quote Reply

Name one other religion that engages in door to door proselytism. I'll wait. Your own violence begat the violence that you receive. Also, I said "any other religion," stop lying. Typical US Christian. Also, don't quote the Bible at me. I don't follow your fanfiction book, so it doesn't apply to me.

Catholic Priests or Brothers or Deacons even wont come knocking at your door unless you requested it or they are concerned

and how can I do an earthly deed of oppression after its already happened centuries ago?

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root lemmy.wtf IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf
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#50 · Quote Reply

culture.. religion, yeah sure, youre right, but they do go hand in hand. And I guess your faith shouldnt depend on where one is born, but chrisanity's goal has always been to "spread" thier religion whether the people want it or not. For a long time (and arguably still today), what religion you follow is heavily dependent on where you are born. Which is why I asked what exsisted before the miss...

yeah, our job is to inform people, not to force them at all

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AngryCommieKender lemmy.world AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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#51 · Quote Reply

Catholic Priests or Brothers or Deacons even wont come knocking at your door unless you requested it or they are concerned and how can I do an earthly deed of oppression after its already happened centuries ago?

Changing the goalposts, I see.

That doesn't stop the very same deacons and priests from sending their followers to violently convert me.

We are talking about Christianity as a whole, not just one specific sect.

Again, you're a typical US Christian. A liar.

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