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RmDebArc_5 piefed.zip RmDebArc_5@piefed.zip
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4Chan post: Picture of a bell curve with right wing extremists one the right, portrayed as stupid, centrists in the middle portrayed as smart and left extremist on the left portrayed as stupid. Reply: "That's not how a bell curve works you fucking imbecile"
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FancyPantsFIRE lemmy.world FancyPantsFIRE@lemmy.world
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Checks out, there is clearly more IQ under the middle of the graph.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#3 · Quote Reply

MAGA is moderate?

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diffaldo lemmy.dbzer0.com diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#4 · Quote Reply

Centrist is maga without red hat.

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ThatGuy46475 lemmy.world ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-01-25
#5 · Quote Reply

Most people are centrist, most people are average iq. It checks out

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DarkCloud lemmy.world DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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#6 · (edited) Quote Reply

Bell curve produced by the standardization of paper testing... Congrats on measuring for "good test takers". Operating well for office authorities and score approval.

...but that's not the same as intelligence. So it's already bullshit before you overlay the ideological stuff on top.

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LibertyLizard slrpnk.net LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-06-14
#7 · (edited) Quote Reply

I mean there definitely could be a chart that looks like this. But I doubt it does in this case. I'm almost curious to see what it would look like but I don't have that much respect for IQ as a measure of anything meaningful anyway. But my guess is there's probably not much difference between IQ across the political spectrum. Perhaps slightly increasing as you move left due to more educated people leaning left, and I would expect there would be some association between IQ and education.

For an example of something that looks like a normal distribution but really isn't:

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SailorMoss sh.itjust.works SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-30
#8 · Quote Reply

MAGA is moderate?

Everyone is moderate... in their own mind.

If you poll Democratic Party voters they will tell you they are moderate. If you poll them issue by issue most of them agree with Bernie Sanders, the most radical elected left-wing senator.

I think it stems from a profound lack of political education and decades of political propaganda. People think moderate means 'sensible' and radical means 'unreasonable'.

Of course most people think of themselves as 'sensible' or 'moderate'.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#9 · Quote Reply

Everyone is moderate... in their own mind. If you poll Democratic Party voters they will tell you they are moderate. If you poll them issue by issue most of them agree with Bernie Sanders, the most radical elected left-wing senator. I think it stems from a profound lack of political education and decades of political propaganda. People think moderate means 'sensible' and radical means 'unreason...

Everyone is moderate… in their own mind.

I'm not.

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rockSlayer lemmy.blahaj.zone rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-02-24
#10 · Quote Reply

I mean there definitely could be a chart that looks like this. But I doubt it does in this case. I'm almost curious to see what it would look like but I don't have that much respect for IQ as a measure of anything meaningful anyway. But my guess is there's probably not much difference between IQ across the political spectrum. Perhaps slightly increasing as you move left due to more educated peo...

IQ is a racist bullshit measure invented to exclude black people from the military and education. It's meaningless in all cases.

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SailorMoss sh.itjust.works SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-30
#11 · (edited) Quote Reply

Everyone is moderate… in their own mind. I'm not.

I was using hyperbole to make a point. You're not sensible?

I'm not a moderate either.

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Zephyr sh.itjust.works Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-06-11
#12 · Quote Reply

All policies and political structures should be tested to see their influence on HDI, GDPPP, and environmental impact. Whatever improves people's lives should be kept and whatever doesn't should be ignored. Why have beliefs when we can have knowledge.

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alekwithak lemmy.world alekwithak@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#13 · Quote Reply

Everyone is moderate... in their own mind. If you poll Democratic Party voters they will tell you they are moderate. If you poll them issue by issue most of them agree with Bernie Sanders, the most radical elected left-wing senator. I think it stems from a profound lack of political education and decades of political propaganda. People think moderate means 'sensible' and radical means 'unreason...

If you poll Democratic Party voters they will tell you they are moderate. If you poll them issue by issue most of them agree with Bernie Sanders, the most radical elected left-wing senator.

Let's be real here. Back before MAGA was a thing every Republican I knew, and I lived in the deep south so I knew a lot, liked Bernie. If the elite hadn't done everything in their power to kneecap him he would have swept in 2016 and we'd be living in a completely different world today.

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SuperNovaStar lemmy.blahaj.zone SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-11-12
#14 · Quote Reply

No no, anon's got a point

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SuperNovaStar lemmy.blahaj.zone SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#15 · Quote Reply

All policies and political structures should be tested to see their influence on HDI, GDPPP, and environmental impact. Whatever improves people's lives should be kept and whatever doesn't should be ignored. Why have beliefs when we can have knowledge.

why have beliefs when we can have knowledge

Do you know how hard people are to manipulate once they have knowledge? We can't go around informing people, it would be anarchy!

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NONE lemmy.world NONE_dc@lemmy.world
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#16 · Quote Reply

Anon failed successfully

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LibertyLizard slrpnk.net LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-06-14
#17 · Quote Reply

IQ is a racist bullshit measure invented to exclude black people from the military and education. It's meaningless in all cases.

Yeah that's kind of what I was referring to.

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kingofras lemmy.world kingofras@lemmy.world
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#18 · Quote Reply

I was using hyperbole to make a point. You're not sensible? I'm not a moderate either.

If you both don’t moderate yourself, and I mean fast, I’ll have to call the moderator in here!

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kingofras lemmy.world kingofras@lemmy.world
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#19 · Quote Reply

No no, anon's got a point

I mean they’re calling someone on the internet an imbecile. Easy win.

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DreamButt lemmy.world tdawg@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#20 · Quote Reply

Everyone is moderate… in their own mind. I'm not.

Eeverything in moderation... Except for me

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wheezy lemmy.ml wheezy@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-07-02
#21 · (edited) Quote Reply

The right side of the graph is showing my imposter syndrome. The more I read the more I feel like I know nothing. Liberal me and SocDem me were a lot happier and definitely felt like they understood everything more.

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wheezy lemmy.ml wheezy@lemmy.ml
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#22 · Quote Reply

Checks out, there is clearly more IQ under the middle of the graph.

Ah, this is the plot of the integral of IQ.

Edit: + c

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agamemnonymous sh.itjust.works agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-15
#23 · Quote Reply

I mean, take away the wojaks and it's accurate

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cecinestpasunecommunication lemmy.dbzer0.com cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-06-27
#24 · Quote Reply

The right side of the graph is showing my imposter syndrome. The more I read the more I feel like I know nothing. Liberal me and SocDem me were a lot happier and definitely felt like they understood everything more.

Opium and the dunning-kruger effect will do that.

Do you currently feel like they understood everything more?

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nightofmichelinstars sopuli.xyz nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-09-21
#25 · Quote Reply

Everyone is moderate... in their own mind. If you poll Democratic Party voters they will tell you they are moderate. If you poll them issue by issue most of them agree with Bernie Sanders, the most radical elected left-wing senator. I think it stems from a profound lack of political education and decades of political propaganda. People think moderate means 'sensible' and radical means 'unreason...

My pet theory is that idiots subliminally think "centrist" means "central" as in "center of the universe" and it resonates for them. IME the stupidest people are also very self-centered.

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Ryanmiller70 lemmy.zip Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-04
#26 · Quote Reply

I'm far more bothered by the left being in the right and the right being on the left.

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Daftydux lemmy.dbzer0.com Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#27 · (edited) Quote Reply

Being high iq is dumb

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Kitchel sopuli.xyz Kitchel@sopuli.xyz
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#28 · Quote Reply

All policies and political structures should be tested to see their influence on HDI, GDPPP, and environmental impact. Whatever improves people's lives should be kept and whatever doesn't should be ignored. Why have beliefs when we can have knowledge.

Because humans are storytellers, not scientist by nature. Better (and not necessary for plebeians) story, bigger impact. For example religions or money have diminished our freedom-loving characteristics to almost none-existence, but they sure are good concepts to knit us together to form a society.

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Kyden Fumofly lemmy.world nuko147@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-28
#29 · Quote Reply

I'm far more bothered by the left being in the right and the right being on the left.

You think the fascists are ahead of the curve?

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Alcoholicorn mander.xyz Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
Joined: 2025-06-24
#30 · Quote Reply

All policies and political structures should be tested to see their influence on HDI, GDPPP, and environmental impact. Whatever improves people's lives should be kept and whatever doesn't should be ignored. Why have beliefs when we can have knowledge.

There's a country that appoints leaders for 3-5 years, and then measures stuff like human health, gdp, poverty, and uses this information to determine where to assign them next, if at all.

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wheezy lemmy.ml wheezy@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-07-02
#31 · Quote Reply

Opium and the dunning-kruger effect will do that. Do you currently feel like they understood everything more?

Oh, no, I wrote that poorly. I think past me definitely felt like I understood things more at the time compared to now. A blissful ignorance.

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mystic-macaroni lemmy.ml wuphysics87@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-05
#32 · Quote Reply

You think the fascists are ahead of the curve?

No one said your coordinate system needs to start on the left and point to the right. Whar if it started on the right and pointed to the left?

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GarboDog lemmy.world GarboDog@lemmy.world
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#33 · Quote Reply

No one said your coordinate system needs to start on the left and point to the right. Whar if it started on the right and pointed to the left?

Gotta second this one, can start on any direction. But no one said this was a directional graph in the first place. Just a graph

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cecinestpasunecommunication lemmy.dbzer0.com cecinestpasunecommunication@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-06-27
#34 · Quote Reply

Oh, no, I wrote that poorly. I think past me definitely felt like I understood things more at the time compared to now. A blissful ignorance.

So now you can see the damage. What to do about it? Engage, or find better drugs?

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Vegafjord - demcon slrpnk.net vegafjord@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2026-04-06
#35 · Quote Reply

Sad thing is that this is how most people view politics. This makes sprouts jump to the center when first engaging.

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abc suppo.fi abc@suppo.fi
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#36 · Quote Reply

That's not a bell curve, just a super accurate graph.

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Leviathan lemmy.world Leviathan@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-10
#37 · Quote Reply

I mean, take away the wojaks and it's accurate

My thoughts exactly.

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Wobble lemmy.dbzer0.com Wobble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-02-11
#38 · Quote Reply

I mean there definitely could be a chart that looks like this. But I doubt it does in this case. I'm almost curious to see what it would look like but I don't have that much respect for IQ as a measure of anything meaningful anyway. But my guess is there's probably not much difference between IQ across the political spectrum. Perhaps slightly increasing as you move left due to more educated peo...

Both axis's are not labelled so the graph could work, it is just bad design!

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Leviathan lemmy.world Leviathan@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-10
#39 · Quote Reply

Average right wing extremist I've met:

Has never read a book, much less the Bible, despite being a fervent Christian.

Average left wing extremist I've met:

Has actually read books about leftist theory, is willing to debate and have their mind changed. The march I joined a few months ago was basically full of Political Science students from the local university.

Tl;dr: the bell curve up top is accurate, minus the Wojacks.

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bampop lemmy.world bampop@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-12
#40 · (edited) Quote Reply

Checks out, there is clearly more IQ under the middle of the graph.

The centrists took a detour around the part where the IQ is

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WorldsDumbestMan lemmy.today WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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#41 · Quote Reply

What about the far-center?

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Kyden Fumofly lemmy.world nuko147@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-28
#42 · Quote Reply

No one said your coordinate system needs to start on the left and point to the right. Whar if it started on the right and pointed to the left?

Unless you are an Arab then it makes no sense to go from right to left. Especially for a graph without any axes.

Ofc I have seen it in graphs that want to manipulate people, putting timelines backward to appear that things going good.

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furry toaster lemmy.blahaj.zone protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-01-04
#43 · Quote Reply

What about the far-center?

thats just jregism

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#44 · Quote Reply

Eeverything in moderation... Except for me

"Too much of a good thing can be wonderful" - Mae West

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#45 · Quote Reply

I was using hyperbole to make a point. You're not sensible? I'm not a moderate either.

I’m not a moderate either.

Good. I hate those.

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Akasazh lemmy.world Akasazh@lemmy.world
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#46 · Quote Reply

Everyone is moderate… in their own mind. I'm not.

You're all individuals, you have minds of your own!

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-12-31
#47 · Quote Reply

While the meme is funny, IQ is a bullshit statistic.

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Hiro8811 lemmy.world Hiro8811@lemmy.world
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#48 · Quote Reply

You know he got a point

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SalamiDommie lemmus.org SalamiDommie@lemmus.org
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#49 · Quote Reply

While the meme is funny, IQ is a bullshit statistic.

A somewhat useful statistic.

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SalamiDommie lemmus.org SalamiDommie@lemmus.org
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#50 · Quote Reply

Average right wing extremist I've met: Has never read a book, much less the Bible, despite being a fervent Christian. Average left wing extremist I've met: Has actually read books about leftist theory, is willing to debate and have their mind changed. The march I joined a few months ago was basically full of Political Science students from the local university. Tl;dr: the bell curve up top is a...

There is now a bigger shift where there are some very inept leftists whose dogma harms them (as the conservatives of the 70s/80s/90s).

As well many more well spoken conservatives in the last 10 years. However that benefit is starting to wane and they now have a brigade of social media rhetorist as intolerable as the left.

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SalamiDommie lemmus.org SalamiDommie@lemmus.org
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#51 · Quote Reply

I'm far more bothered by the left being in the right and the right being on the left.

Hillarious

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