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srasmus
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srasmus@slrpnk.netJoined: 2025-05-19 |
Title worded awkwardly, but I was thinking about the chemical makeup of our planet, and the other bodies in our solar system. Is the chemical makeup of our star system similar to every other star system? And if not, are we more similar to stars nearest to ours? Is it totally random? Like does every star system have roughly the same amount of iron, hydrogen, oxygen, etc. When averaged out? Has this even been studied? |
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hexabs
lemmy.world
hexabs@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-30 |
Homogeneous is more about the pov of the experiment. If you zoom in far enough at sugar water it is not homogenous even if completely dissolved. So it really depends on how far back you are zooming out to declare something homogenous. |
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chemical_cutthroat
lemmy.world
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-10 |
The short version is: No. Not all systems are identical, but they also aren't random. There are real patterns, and it has been studied A LOT. It's a field of science called Galactic Chemical Evolution, and it's fucking rad. The long version. No, again :) When the big bang happened, it scattered everything that ever was, but everything at that time was just hydrogen and helium, which is boring. So, at the very beginning, everything was homogeneous because there wasn't much of anything to spice it up. However, then the stars came along after being formed by those gasses. When hydrogen and helium got cooked, they fused into heavier elements, which is where all the fun stuff got made. Then, the stars would die, and you'd get a supernova. These would spread all the cool elements around, and that's where we get everything we are used to looking at, like planets and asteroids and moons. Everything is made of star stuff. So, for your questions:
Hope that helps. Science is fucking awesome. If you want to know more, look into Galactic Chemical Evolution, especially on YouTube where you can find a lot of educators that explain this with much more depth than I can. PBS SpaceTime is one of my favorites. |
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oce 🐆
jlai.lu
oce@jlai.luJoined: 2023-07-07 |
From my studies, I remember that solar systems have some kind of identity card based on the % of atoms and isotopes (versions of an atom with more or less neutrons). The bigger the atoms the more exceptionally energetic the process that created them needs to be: normal star, big star, supernova, neutron star merger... Also some specific isotopes can be created by some processes and not others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleosynthesis So one part of the universe where a solar system formed may not have seen the same atoms creation processes as another, so their detailed compositions are different. They make our origin much cooler by looking at space pebbles. |
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AnarchoEngineer
lemmy.dbzer0.com
AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-04 |
This is a difficult thing to accurately assess. While we can use spectrometry to find chemical compositions of stars and nebulae and planet atmospheres/surfaces, we cant even be certain about the interior of planets and moons within our own solar system, much less the galaxy. We can make educated guesses based on the mass/volume and the stability of elements but I don't think it’s an exact science. However, i would imagine the answer to your question is No, the galaxy is not homogeneous. My reasoning is that near the center of our galaxy, stars are much closer together. This not only makes stellar collisions more likely to occur, but also means there will be significantly more cosmic rays in that space than out here near the rim. Both cosmic rays and stellar collisions are the (theoretical) primary sources of certain elements. Berylium and Boron are created by cosmic rays fission, and as such id expect their concentrations to be higher in denser star clusters. And I’d expect higher concentrations of heavier elements due to both increased collisions AND due to the decay chains of unstable isotopes created by cosmic ray fission. Cosmic rays are responsible for producing common isotopes like Carbon-14 here on earth, and we live in a pretty empty part of space near a relatively inactive star. So I’d imagine the amount of radioactive isotopes of all kinds would generally be higher in more dense stellar regions too. All that being said, the most common elements will probably be the same. Hydrogen and helium are the most common in the entire universe, and many light elements like Oxygen and Carbon and even Iron which can be produced by fusion will probably be higher in concentration than any heavier elements regardless of where you are in the universe. |
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WhatAmLemmy
lemmy.world
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-18 |
Think of it like the surface of the Earth. The same building blocks are everywhere but their distribution evolved and changed drastically over time based on initially small variances in heat and density. The distribution is deterministic, but appears "random" to an observer that spawns 14 billion years into the chaos of the explosion. |
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gandalf_der_13te
feddit.org
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.orgJoined: 2026-08-01 |
yeah, we basically know the chemical composition of other stars from their emission lines (every chemical emits light at specific frequencies, depending on the atom type). and so we know that most matter in the universe (at least in the brightly visible stars' outer layer) is hydrogen, followed by helium, which make up 99% of the mass. the rest is all other elements combined. |
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