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Interview: Drew DeVault on an AI-free version of Vim
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codeinabox programming.dev codeinabox@programming.dev
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NotSteve_ lemmy.ca NotSteve_@lemmy.ca
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I still feel (in my opinion) that the fork was a bit of an overreaction. Vim isn't embracing slop but rather: the devs just made it a policy that using AI for coding assistance is okay as long as you know the code inside and out and will maintain it.

The difference is kind of comparable to saying "you can use your IDE's inline refactor tool for simple changes but we won't allow every PR to run a different codebase-wide code formatter tool". Kind of a bad analogy but we really shouldn't dilute what we consider "slop" to the point where using fancy line completion while writing your project is on par with letting Claude write an entire codebase

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codeinabox programming.dev codeinabox@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-09-29
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I still feel (in my opinion) that the fork was a bit of an overreaction. Vim isn't embracing slop but rather: the devs just made it a policy that using AI for coding assistance is okay as long as you know the code inside and out and will maintain it. The difference is kind of comparable to saying "you can use your IDE's inline refactor tool for simple changes but we won't allow every PR to run ...

I 100% agree! Lots of open source projects have a similar policy, where AI coding tools are allowed as long as you disclose their use, and can explain every line of the code. Projects with this policy include:

  • Ghostty
  • Lemmy
  • Mastodon
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