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Wren lemmy.today Wren@lemmy.today
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Olgratin_Magmatoe slrpnk.net Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net
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I love the mobile seat + table setup.

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🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 pawb.social Kolanaki@pawb.social
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#3 · Quote Reply

So he does know how to read tarot cards.

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calliope retrolemmy.com calliope@retrolemmy.com
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Indeed, this is called cold reading and is how most of these things work.

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-08-25
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Interested foreign language guy question:
Is this a correct use of the word "literally"?

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DickFiasco sh.itjust.works DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-24
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Interested foreign language guy question: Is this a correct use of the word "literally"?

I don't think it's technically correct, but that word has been mangled so badly at this point that I would say the way it's used here counts as common usage.

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WIZARD POPE💫 lemmy.world Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-12-08
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I don't think it's technically correct, but that word has been mangled so badly at this point that I would say the way it's used here counts as common usage.

It has come to a point where literally means both literally and figurativelly depending on context.

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-08-25
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I don't think it's technically correct, but that word has been mangled so badly at this point that I would say the way it's used here counts as common usage.

Thanks! Got me confused when reading the whole post but then I guessed something like what you just said already.
Just wanted to have some confirmation.

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thekidxp sh.itjust.works thekidxp@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-10
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Interested foreign language guy question: Is this a correct use of the word "literally"?

Yeah both of those uses are fine in English. The first usage is "more" correct I would say. Literally is supposed to be used to basically say that the thing is actually happening. The second usage is also common at least in American English. Usually it's used with common figures of speech. "I was literally judging books by their cover." Technically he wasn't, he was judging people. Some people will be pedantic and call you out for that. So if you're taking an English class I'd avoid that usage but it's really common to hear it used that way. "I would literally die." It strengthens the phrase.

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Klear piefed.world Klear@piefed.world
Joined: 2026-05-14
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I don't think it's technically correct, but that word has been mangled so badly at this point that I would say the way it's used here counts as common usage.

It's not mangled, it's just used as a hyperbole. When you say someone is tall as a mountain you're not mangling the word "mountain" in doing so.

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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Yeah both of those uses are fine in English. The first usage is "more" correct I would say. Literally is supposed to be used to basically say that the thing is actually happening. The second usage is also common at least in American English. Usually it's used with common figures of speech. "I was literally judging books by their cover." Technically he wasn't, he was judging people. Some people ...

Thanks!
And I've heard similar expressions like in the last example you mentioned being used before, so should have known by myself...

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TwoBeeSan lemmy.world TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-05
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Good for him. Get that moonay.

I have a friend who is pretty spooky at it. Believe me I use to be a tarot doubter but she is legit in tune with something.

When she told me she couldn't go to antique stores because of energies I was sure she was full of shit. Then I kept seeing things that made me be more open to it.

Like pulling the death card then a random downpour of rain type shit. One of many.

She's a witch.

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Courtney (she/her/they) lemmy.blahaj.zone EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-04-10
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But I'm the asshole if I don't take people seriously when they go on about astrology and how it's the perfect system.

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Klear piefed.world Klear@piefed.world
Joined: 2026-05-14
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Indeed, this is called cold reading and is how most of these things work.

To add to this, tarot and other divination methods are a great way to tap into your subconscious to get this kind of insight even if you can't do it normally. Every card can be a lot of things and having a bunch of them in various places could be interpreted in many ways, but (if you're good at it) your mind will snap into one specific interpretation according to your unconscious biases and convinces itself it is the only way to read that configuration.

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Courtney (she/her/they) lemmy.blahaj.zone EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-04-10
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Indeed, this is called cold reading and is how most of these things work.

I once saw someone with a name tag get bent out of shape when the "reader" somehow managed to get her name from the ether. And then she got mad at me for pointing out her name tag.

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gibmiser lemmy.world gibmiser@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-02
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It has come to a point where literally means both literally and figurativelly depending on context.

You are literally correct

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SkyezOpen lemmy.world SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-03
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Good for him. Get that moonay. I have a friend who is pretty spooky at it. Believe me I use to be a tarot doubter but she is legit in tune with something. When she told me she couldn't go to antique stores because of energies I was sure she was full of shit. Then I kept seeing things that made me be more open to it. Like pulling the death card then a random downpour of rain type shit. One of ma...

death

rain

Yeah close enough.

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drolex sopuli.xyz drolex@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-13
#18 · Quote Reply

Indeed, this is called cold reading and is how most of these things work.

Let me guess, you're someone who, hmm, finds information on Wikipedia and, aaah, has an interest in decentralised open-source projects. The spirits tell me you are not a fan of Windows and you dislike genocidal maniacs.

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drolex sopuli.xyz drolex@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-13
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But I'm the asshole if I don't take people seriously when they go on about astrology and how it's the perfect system.

That's some Scorpio skepticism. You're a victim of the influence of the stars smh

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calliope retrolemmy.com calliope@retrolemmy.com
Joined: 2025-09-02
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Let me guess, you're someone who, hmm, finds information on Wikipedia and, aaah, has an interest in decentralised open-source projects. The spirits tell me you are not a fan of Windows and you dislike genocidal maniacs.

Oh my god it’s like you KNOW ME

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drolex sopuli.xyz drolex@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-13
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Interested foreign language guy question: Is this a correct use of the word "literally"?

Literally literally means metaphorically now

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SpaceNoodle lemmy.world SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
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Thanks! Got me confused when reading the whole post but then I guessed something like what you just said already. Just wanted to have some confirmation.

"foreign language guy"

speaks better English than most native English speakers

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SpaceNoodle lemmy.world SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
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It's not mangled, it's just used as a hyperbole. When you say someone is tall as a mountain you're not mangling the word "mountain" in doing so.

When you say someone is literally as tall as a mountain, that literally means that they would be at least 2,000 feet tall.

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Wren Moderator Wren@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-11-04
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death rain Yeah close enough.

I don't believe in tarot reading at all, but I did enough middle school goth witch cosplay to know that death is a water card.

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chiliedogg lemmy.world chiliedogg@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-26
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To add to this, tarot and other divination methods are a great way to tap into your subconscious to get this kind of insight even if you can't do it normally. Every card can be a lot of things and having a bunch of them in various places could be interpreted in many ways, but (if you're good at it) your mind will snap into one specific interpretation according to your unconscious biases and con...

Yeah. This is why some people can genuinely believe in the magic while performing the trick.

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Klear piefed.world Klear@piefed.world
Joined: 2026-05-14
#26 · Quote Reply

When you say someone is literally as tall as a mountain, that literally means that they would be at least 2,000 feet tall.

Yes. In that case it's not used as a hyperbole.

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SpaceNoodle lemmy.world SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
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Yes. In that case it's not used as a hyperbole.

Right, so "literally" indicates that the statement is not a hyperbole.

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Klear piefed.world Klear@piefed.world
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Right, so "literally" indicates that the statement is not a hyperbole.

Not always. When I say my head literally exploded, the word "literally" absolutely is a hyperbole.

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yuri pawb.social yuri@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-07-14
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ceros is pretty cool, his youtube channel can be a trip

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SpaceNoodle lemmy.world SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
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Not always. When I say my head literally exploded, the word "literally" absolutely is a hyperbole.

There's literally no difference in the usage.

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Serinus lemmy.world Serinus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#31 · Quote Reply

Not always. When I say my head literally exploded, the word "literally" absolutely is a hyperbole.

That defeats the purpose of the word. It makes it mean literally nothing.

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Klear piefed.world Klear@piefed.world
Joined: 2026-05-14
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There's literally no difference in the usage.

Context is the difference. If you're one of the people who can't understand hyperbole and saracsm and such, you'll just have to take my word for it I guess.

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gedfromgont piefed.ca gedfromgont@piefed.ca
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Oh my god it’s like you KNOW ME

You also like Linux and Star Trek

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calliope retrolemmy.com calliope@retrolemmy.com
Joined: 2025-09-02
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You also like Linux and Star Trek

Half correct! I never got into Star Trek.

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SpaceNoodle lemmy.world SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
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Context is the difference. If you're one of the people who can't understand hyperbole and saracsm and such, you'll just have to take my word for it I guess.

There's literally no difference in context between those two examples. You're literally just making up the rules.

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-10
#36 · Quote Reply

death rain Yeah close enough.

The death card signifies change, actually. Surely you've seen the Simpsons bit?

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Thebeardedsinglemalt lemmy.world Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-17
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But I'm the asshole if I don't take people seriously when they go on about astrology and how it's the perfect system.

Because if my parents had banged 3 days earlier I'd be much more agreeable

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sp3ctr4l lemmy.dbzer0.com sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-04-10
#38 · (edited) Quote Reply

ceros is pretty cool, his youtube channel can be a trip

Yeah I was gonna say the same!

He makes good content, is often quite funny, has insightful and honest takes... I don't agree with him on absolutely 100%, but, he's a straight shooter, not shilling anything... kinda guy you could actually agree to disagree with on less consequential stuff... which is rare, and admirable.

Hope his foot's doing better... fuck, that shit was crazy.

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applebusch (she/her) lemmy.blahaj.zone applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-11-11
#39 · Quote Reply

Because if my parents had banged 3 days earlier I'd be much more agreeable
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Whostosay sh.itjust.works Whostosay@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-07-16
#40 · (edited) Quote Reply

Half correct! I never got into Star Trek.

Never got into star trek, yet.

IT WAS FORTOLD

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hakase lemmy.zip hakase@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-11
#41 · (edited) Quote Reply

"foreign language guy" speaks better English than most native English speakers

Speaks better English English closer to an arbitrary standard than most native English speakers

That's what usually happens when you focus on learning the "standard" in isolation instead of being exposed to stigmatized non-"standard" dialects as a child as you acquire your mother tongue.

Happens with literally every language, not just English.

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ExperimentalGuy programming.dev ExperimentalGuy@programming.dev
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#42 · Quote Reply

Interested foreign language guy question: Is this a correct use of the word "literally"?

It's emphasis in this context rather than its actual definition.

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hakase lemmy.zip hakase@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-11
#43 · (edited) Quote Reply

Not always. When I say my head literally exploded, the word "literally" absolutely is a hyperbole.

This comment is literally correct, and all of the responses to it are literally /c/badlinguistics, so of course this comment is the one that gets downvoted.

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Klear piefed.world Klear@piefed.world
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#44 · Quote Reply

This comment is literally correct, and all of the responses to it are literally /c/badlinguistics, so of course this comment is the one that gets downvoted.

They angry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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hakase lemmy.zip hakase@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-11
#45 · (edited) Quote Reply

That defeats the purpose of the word. It makes it mean literally nothing.

That's not how language works.

Also, it's funny how people always get their panties in a twist about "literally", but never other autoantonyms like "cleave" or "sanction".

It's almost as if context does allow language to keep working when autoantonyms exist, and the prescriptivists' snobbery and "concern" for the "purity" of the language is really just an excuse to lord their own adherence to an outdated and arbitrary set of rules over their interlocutors.

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Valmond lemmy.dbzer0.com Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#46 · Quote Reply

Half correct! I never got into Star Trek.

I mean Star Wars

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bandanawearingbanana lemmy.world bandanawearingbanana@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#47 · Quote Reply

ceros is pretty cool, his youtube channel can be a trip

I love him, it's so obvious most of his stories are made up bs for clicks and I'm here for it!

It's like hearing a wildly exaggerated story being told by that one friend but you don't say anything and don't interrupt because he's a good storyteller.

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Serinus lemmy.world Serinus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
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That's not how language works. Also, it's funny how people always get their panties in a twist about "literally", but never other autoantonyms like "cleave" or "sanction". It's almost as if context does allow language to keep working when autoantonyms exist, and the prescriptivists' snobbery and "concern" for the "purity" of the language is really just an excuse to lord their own adherence to a...

Your other two examples you can get from context.

The purpose of "literally" is to define the context. It can't be used figuratively and retain any meaning.

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bandanawearingbanana lemmy.world bandanawearingbanana@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#49 · Quote Reply

But I'm the asshole if I don't take people seriously when they go on about astrology and how it's the perfect system.

Tbh most people into astrology don't take it that seriously either it's just for fun.

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hakase lemmy.zip hakase@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-11
#50 · Quote Reply

Literally literally means metaphorically now

And has since at least the 1700s.

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Sineljora sh.itjust.works Sineljora@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-30
#51 · Quote Reply

Indeed, this is called cold reading and is how most of these things work.

This is what AI/LLMs do also.

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