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return2ozma
lemmy.world
return2ozma@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-01 |
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gecko
lemmy.ml
Fancy_Gecko@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-08-12 |
palword is setting a good precedent , copyright is bullshit and should be ignored |
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hayvan
piefed.world
hayvan@piefed.world Joined: 2025-12-06 |
palword is setting a good precedent , copyright is bullshit and should be ignored
The concept of copyright isn't bullshit but here is outright legal abuse. Palworld does not infringe on anyone's copyright. It's an original work inspired by another. Imagine if nobody was allowed to make first person shooters because they would be infringin on Doom. |
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shiv
sh.itjust.works
shiv@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-04-17 |
I support anything that takes shots at or a market share of pokemon. Pokemon fandom needs to chill out. |
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CerebralHawks
lemmy.dbzer0.com
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2025-08-18 |
Nintendo is such bullshit. They have Pokémon but don't they also make Pikmin? It's practically the same name, but different. Digimon is the same as Pokémon but they don't sue each other? Then there's Animal Crossing, Pokémon Pokeopia or whatever it's called, the Hello Kitty one, and Stardew Valley and all its clones/similars. Breath of the Wild was just a Zelda-themed Dark Souls. Super Mario Bros. has had a ton of spinoffs/ripoffs. But yeah, go after Palworld. Oh, let's not forget that Metroid exists because Ridley Scott said "no" when they wanted to make an Alien video game. That's why that one boss is named... Ridley. Nintendo is such bullshit. |
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KimBongUn420
lemmy.ml
KimBongUn420@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-07-05 |
The concept of copyright isn't bullshit but here is outright legal abuse. Palworld does not infringe on anyone's copyright. It's an original work inspired by another. Imagine if nobody was allowed to make first person shooters because they would be infringin on Doom.
It kinda is tho. Culture always worked by inspiring and copying others. Also were talking about intellectual property here that can be multiplied by a simple copy paste. The cost is marginal. I think someone who e.g. invents a cure for cancer should be rewarded by society, but it's immoral for them to keep it secret and privatly profit off of that Also Idgaf if someone who creates a fantasy world has to deal with others that like to add to it. Fanfics can be really good. It may be annoying to the OP but who are they to ruin the fun for others I would download a car if I could |
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hayvan
piefed.world
hayvan@piefed.world Joined: 2025-12-06 |
The concept of copyright isn't bullshit It kinda is tho. Culture always worked by inspiring and copying others. Also were talking about intellectual property here that can be multiplied by a simple copy paste. The cost is marginal. I think someone who e.g. invents a cure for cancer should be rewarded by society, but it's immoral for them to keep it secret and privatly profit off of that Also Id...
It's capitalism, and concept of profit is bullshit. Copyrights and patents are patches to kind of make it work, which don't work really. |
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brucethemoose
lemmy.world
brucethemoose@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-22 |
Nintendo is such bullshit. They have Pokémon but don't they also make Pikmin? It's practically the same name, but different. Digimon is the same as Pokémon but they don't sue each other? Then there's Animal Crossing, Pokémon Pokeopia or whatever it's called, the Hello Kitty one, and Stardew Valley and all its clones/similars. Breath of the Wild was just a Zelda-themed Dark Souls. Super Mario Br...
Yeah. I played Pokopia with a sibling, and from that alone, Nintendo has no leg to stand on. |
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KimBongUn420
lemmy.ml
KimBongUn420@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-07-05 |
It's capitalism, and concept of profit is bullshit. Copyrights and patents are patches to kind of make it work, which don't work really.
Thanks for clarifying and I agree. Fuck capitalism (and in this case the culture industry enforcing copyrights) |
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brucethemoose
lemmy.world
brucethemoose@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-22 |
I think it’s all a bit silly. Palworld absolutely leans into the controversy in their marketing, but fundamentally it’s an Ark-like, on a different platform. It’s really not competing with Nintendo sales. Hence, it’s kind of ridiculous Nintendo pursued this so aggressively. It’d be like Bethesda Game Studios relentlessly going after Stardew Valley on iOS because they both have “NPCs with schedules,” when fundamentally, their games are nothing alike. |
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uber_chicken
lemmy.world
uber_chicken@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-02 |
I support anything that takes shots at or a market share of pokemon. Pokemon fandom needs to chill out.
The toxic part of the fanbase will never chill out unfortunately. They'll take any chance to be abusive |
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NocturnalMorning
lemmy.world
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
It's capitalism, and concept of profit is bullshit. Copyrights and patents are patches to kind of make it work, which don't work really.
Capitalism can eat a bag of dicks. |
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Excel
lemming.megumin.org
excel@lemming.megumin.orgJoined: 2025-12-27 |
palword is setting a good precedent , copyright is bullshit and should be ignored
They were sued because of patents (which are also BS), not copyright. |
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yamper
piefed.social
yamper@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-30 |
Nintendo is such bullshit. They have Pokémon but don't they also make Pikmin? It's practically the same name, but different. Digimon is the same as Pokémon but they don't sue each other? Then there's Animal Crossing, Pokémon Pokeopia or whatever it's called, the Hello Kitty one, and Stardew Valley and all its clones/similars. Breath of the Wild was just a Zelda-themed Dark Souls. Super Mario Br...
in broad strokes youre right, but the palworld designs are so egregiously ripped off. |
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phar
lemmy.world
phar@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-10 |
Waiting for NTSCworld |
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IronBird
lemmy.world
IronBird@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-09-06 |
in broad strokes youre right, but the palworld designs are so egregiously ripped off.
and pokemon was just a blatant rip off of dragon quest |
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onlooker
lemmy.ml
onlooker@lemmy.mlJoined: 2020-06-24 |
Nintendo is such bullshit. They have Pokémon but don't they also make Pikmin? It's practically the same name, but different. Digimon is the same as Pokémon but they don't sue each other? Then there's Animal Crossing, Pokémon Pokeopia or whatever it's called, the Hello Kitty one, and Stardew Valley and all its clones/similars. Breath of the Wild was just a Zelda-themed Dark Souls. Super Mario Br...
Okay, I'll poo-poo on Nintendo's business practices as much as the next guy, but I have to ask:
Pray tell, how is Breath of the Wild anything like Dark Souls? |
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thingsiplay
lemmy.ml
thingsiplay@lemmy.mlJoined: 2026-01-09 |
palword is setting a good precedent , copyright is bullshit and should be ignored
Not really. Palworld isn't infringing any copyright. Nintendo was not pursuing copyright infringement, but patent infringement for gameplay mechanics. |
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thingsiplay
lemmy.ml
thingsiplay@lemmy.mlJoined: 2026-01-09 |
My reply to these replies here about Copyright being a bad idea (besides that Nintendo never pursued a Copyright claim with Palworld)... I think Copyright is important to preserve rights. Without Copyright, we couldn't have Open Source licenses like GPL. And the industry wants to sell products ideally not pirated, to make profit. Which is not a bad thing, because that encourages competition. Now that does not mean there are no loopholes and evil companies (and individuals) wouldn't abuse it. But that does not mean that the entire idea of Copyright is bad or "bullshit". |
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DupaCycki
lemmy.world
DupaCycki@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-08-17 |
My reply to these replies here about Copyright being a bad idea (besides that Nintendo never pursued a Copyright claim with Palworld)... I think Copyright is important to preserve rights. Without Copyright, we couldn't have Open Source licenses like GPL. And the industry wants to sell products ideally not pirated, to make profit. Which is not a bad thing, because that encourages competition. No...
The idea of copyright in general may not be bad. However, its current implementation is very much horrendous. |
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thingsiplay
lemmy.ml
thingsiplay@lemmy.mlJoined: 2026-01-09 |
The idea of copyright in general may not be bad. However, its current implementation is very much horrendous.
The current implementation is not really "horrendous". It works well enough that its a net positive. Even with its flaws (because no law is perfect), I think we are better off with these Copyright laws around the world than without it. I never found anyone giving an example what could be done better; people just say its bad. In example, what specifically is so horrendous about the current "implementation" of Copyright? And how would it be better? |
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DupaCycki
lemmy.world
DupaCycki@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-08-17 |
I support anything that takes shots at or a market share of pokemon. Pokemon fandom needs to chill out.
Palworld existing and doing well is directly beneficial for Pokemon fans, because it may lead to better Pokemon games. Probably not good games, because this is still Nintendo, but an upgrade is an upgrade. |
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GnuLinuxDude
lemmy.ml
GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-07-07 |
The current implementation is not really "horrendous". It works well enough that its a net positive. Even with its flaws (because no law is perfect), I think we are better off with these Copyright laws around the world than without it. I never found anyone giving an example what could be done better; people just say its bad. In example, what specifically is so horrendous about the current "impl...
IMO you can seriously fix all copyright and patent law by halving their current duration. In the USA that means copyrights are author's life + 35 years and works for hire should be something like 50 years. Patents similarly go from 20->10 years. |
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Concetta
lemmy.blahaj.zone
vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Okay, I'll poo-poo on Nintendo's business practices as much as the next guy, but I have to ask: Breath of the Wild was just a Zelda-themed Dark Souls. Pray tell, how is Breath of the Wild anything like Dark Souls?
I assume having the ability to go anywhere and do anything almost off the rip would be the comparison. Having difficulty spikes but no actual locked doors |
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TotalCourage007
lemmy.world
TotalCourage007@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-20 |
You know its selling like hotcakes when certain ball and gun streamers are screaming mad at its relevancy. edit: Said guy is STILL raging at it after a whole day lmao. In fact I booted it up just to piss him off. |
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