wtf did they expect?

I think they missed the part where Trump isn’t about stopping illegal immigration, just immigration. Past and present. For brown people.

I mean, he told you what he was tryinna do

I remember a video about an immigration lawyer, who also immigrated from Mexico, who said Trump was only going to go after the criminals. Therefore business would be great for her. I really want to see a follow-up.

“It just seems now more than ever, if you’re brown, they’re gonna stop you,” said Mario Guerrero, a three-time Trump voter who leads the South Texas Builders Association. “And I know that sounds really racist, but it’s what we’re facing, man.”

The Supreme Court essentially signed off on a Trump immigration enforcement policy to assume speaking Spanish and looking brown is sufficient evidence to suspect someone is an illegal immigrant. It is about as openly racist as you can get.

I guess Mr. Guerrero doesn't like the bigotry now that he's on the receiving end of it?

Fools. Maybe they'll learn?

Sadly, it's unlikely. They'll do whatever mental gymnastics are necessary to justify whatever they want to be true.

Huh. If only anyone could have told them…

They expected a scenario that would work out well for themselves. They didn't put any effort into thinking about whether or not any given scenario would work out well for themselves, but the Republican media assured them it would work out, so why would they doubt that?

he even did it before!

What Texas media and social pressure told them to. That's why we shouldn't let billionaires and liars run the media

Probably not concentration camps

The destruction of the left:

“We’re pissed off at the current administration. Everybody’s pissed off down here in south Texas,” the construction executive said, noting that most Hispanics in the area are Catholic. “Remember, we’re conservative, we’re not far left. We’re in the middle, conservative Latinos in south Texas. It doesn’t make sense.”

They are idiots. My family is full of Latinos who pull the ladder from behind. They also think they could be on the same level as white people. Nope.

There's a big "why did you vote for Trump in the first place?" shaped hole in the middle of this story. Did the reporter not ask? Did they not think it was important?

That’s letting them off the hook.

Bear in mind they are talking about what was probably the most conservative Democrat to hold office since the 50s.

They did what daddy told them too and as mad as they are they will continue to vote red.

History is filled with people who were promised that we would pretend they were white if they just sold out everyone they cared about. Hasn't actually paid off yet.

Sometimes there isn't enough leopard.

eating of faces by leopards intensifies

At the end of the day, those sorts of things always let you know who you can’t trust.

You reap what you vote. When a man tells you what he wants to do, it's best to believe him. There was plenty of warning before the election.

Im not sure if you're calling for harsher punishments to the billionaires that own mainstream media or if you're arguing that there should be further consequences for people that fell for a sophisticated misinformation campaign who are already suffering disproportionately under this administration.

I think it's disingenuous to ignore the heavy conservative leanings of a significant portion of Hispanic households as well as any who immigrated "the right way" and are pissed off by undocumented workers.

Legally documented immigrants are often considerably more strict and harsh in their views on undocumented immigrants. A very "I did it right and so should you have too" mentality. This is particularly strong among refugee immigrants (Cuban and Venezuela, for example). The problem here is the perception that undocumented immigrants are all members of roving street gangs selling drugs and murdering an raping. Farm hands and construction workers can get documentation that passes the checks required of employers. So they weren't expecting their own employees to be swept up in it.

They're not stupid, just heavily propagandized to where they need to experience personal consequence to reconsider. It a perfect chance to have the conversation with them to win them over.

That’s what they get for choosing mysoginy and racism

Well well well if it isn't the consequences of their own actions.

Kinda wonder what the Mexican MAGA dude I worked with back in 2016 thinks of 'em. I had heard plenty of racism towards mexicans from white dudes before, but this guy, who was Mexican himself and proud of it, used the B slur more than anyone I ever met directed at "illegals." Dude was an absolute dipshit and I was hella happy when I no longet had him as my partner (cuz he got fired after getting a DUI and his license suspended).

I’m not arguing for either, although taxing/eating the rich should always be on the table.

I’m saying that while in the macro sense disinformation has had a devastating effect on society, I’m not ready to let those “fooled” by it off the hook. It’s the 2020s, if you’re fooled by disinformation to this degree, you’ve let yourself be fooled.

They expected deportations of only the "bad mexicans", not understanding thst every mexican is bad to this admin.

Overall a good thing really. Hopefully they realize before November that when MAGA say illegal immigration they don't mean the effects on the economy, because those are actually good, they mean its effect on the demographics.

They expected him to overthrow the governments in Latin America so they could go back to being petite bourgeois landlords on the south side of the border.

And he has helped overthrow a bunch of Latin American governments. So a bunch of them still like him.

It's nice to have the privilege of time to research or a good education to base things off of, isn't it? I have them, too. Poverty and oppression doesnt give over a quarter of Americans (which is also disproportionately represented in the south) that leeway.

The exception to this is when the definition of whiteness had to be expanded to maintain a white majority.

At some point you have to allow them their agency. They are adults, and only one of us is treating them as such.

The Irish might be an exception there. See How the Irish became White by Noel Ignatiev.

If people didn't have time to get better information, Netflix, YouTube, Facebook et al would be worthless. They are not.

People made choices. Those choices are biting then in the ass. Education is not free. However, lack of knowledge can be fixed with some small amount of effort.

It can be hard to get absolute truths in an age of misinformation, but there was plenty of information that was common knowledge about truno and his racism. He'd also already had a pretty awful first term, which ended in an insurrection.

If they were fooled, it was wilful ignorance. That doesn't mean we shouldn't also hold the misinformation machine responsible, nor welcome them back into the fold of normalcy. If we, or they, don't recognise that they bear responsibility also, it's going to keep happening.

Do you think you're immune to disinformation? Oh right I forgot it's only the other side that is being lied too you're right everything you say and think is correct.

On the money🎯.
Even Mexicans are only salty they can't have slaves they used to oppress.
Please libs, tell us how Mexico still treats the Zapatistas.

And Italians!

I dunno, 200 years of American racism and past Republican sentiments towards Mexicans and Hispanics might have been a tip in the right direction.

God forbid anyone educate themselves before sticking a knife in a lightsocket.

People forget it was only like a century ago when Irish and Italians weren't white enough for the wasps.

It a perfect chance to have the conversation with them to win them over.

lmk if you find a way to convince them.
I found “Hierba mala es cabezota” the hardway😔

They still remind us!

strange, they can't seem to find that person anymore to conduct a follow-up with.

If it's a poll showing it and not a news story on a massive protest, they're not really furious.

I do not think I’m immune from disinformation, which means I try very hard to use critical thinking at all times. I’m suggesting they should have as well.

Would be pretty convenient for ICE if they did though, huh?

Thinking isn't how Trump supporters become Trump supporters. Fear is.

Their propaganda networks told them to be more concerned about trans people and Haitian immigrants than real important topics.

They didn't consider he'd actually do what he said he would do on immigration because they were too busy cowering in fear over bullshit culture war garbage and hyper focusing on that.

Plus, he'd only go after the bad ones, right?