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Windex007 lemmy.world Windex007@lemmy.world
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A barrage of tariffs under the justification of economic policy, a barrage of plainly coercive tariffs, and unilaterally deciding to cripple global energy markets, threatening invasions of allies, following through on others...

Why pretend like you've got any concern about de-dollarization at this point?

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DarkCloud lemmy.world DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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The whole point of the Tech Billionaires plan is to pull apart America, reset it to an earlier time, so they can carve it up into fifedoms and each rule an area.

Good for them, but for everyone else (including the prestige of the country globally), it's clearly a step backwards and a downgrade.

American Capitalists intentionally set out to kill American democracy. They have the money so are giving it a shot.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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The whole point of the Tech Billionaires plan is to pull apart America, reset it to an earlier time, so they can carve it up into fifedoms and each rule an area. Good for them, but for everyone else (including the prestige of the country globally), it's clearly a step backwards and a downgrade. American Capitalists intentionally set out to kill American democracy. They have the money so are giv...

It's always been a democracy for the ruling class which is the capital owning class from the very start. Entire books have been written on the subject. There are studies showing this to be the case based on empirical data https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B

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obvs lemmy.world obvs@lemmy.world
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Good. The dollar is worthless.

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DarkCloud lemmy.world DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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It's always been a democracy for the ruling class which is the capital owning class from the very start. Entire books have been written on the subject. There are studies showing this to be the case based on empirical data https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4...

...and still they want more, whether it's Marc Andreesen's Network States and "California Forever" project. Sam Altman's Prospera project, Peter Thiel's Sea Steeding and comments on democracy not being compatible with (rich guy) freedom, or the Epstein emails where he discusses Alexander Dugin and ending democracy. They all want to be Monarchs.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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...and still they want more, whether it's Marc Andreesen's Network States and "California Forever" project. Sam Altman's Prospera project, Peter Thiel's Sea Steeding and comments on democracy not being compatible with (rich guy) freedom, or the Epstein emails where he discusses Alexander Dugin and ending democracy. They all want to be Monarchs.

You should go read up on the robber barons at the start of the 20th century if you think this is anything new.

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DarkCloud lemmy.world DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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You should go read up on the robber barons at the start of the 20th century if you think this is anything new.

I feel like The Business Plot would be a better point of historical comparison to todays events. You should go do a course in comparative history if you think introducing comparisons is anything new.

Also, try to pay for the course in company scrip if you can get away with it.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ lemmy.ml yogthos@lemmy.ml
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I feel like The Business Plot would be a better point of historical comparison to todays events. You should go do a course in comparative history if you think introducing comparisons is anything new. Also, try to pay for the course in company scrip if you can get away with it.

Kind of a weird response to me pointing out that what's happening today is in no way out of the ordinary for the burger reich. There's no need for a fascist take over plot because burdgerland is already the heart of global fascism.

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eldavi lemmy.ml eldavi@lemmy.ml
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A barrage of tariffs under the justification of economic policy, a barrage of plainly coercive tariffs, and unilaterally deciding to cripple global energy markets, threatening invasions of allies, following through on others... Why pretend like you've got any concern about de-dollarization at this point?

Why pretend like you’ve got any concern about de-dollarization at this point?

the epstein oligarchy is really good at class consciousness so they're able to collectively recognize the threat; even if its members that are currently in charge are not in 100% alignment with how to handle it.

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Zephyr sh.itjust.works Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
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Hmmm you would think the issue with Iran and the switch to yuan would be more of a concern then but guess not.

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DarkCloud lemmy.world DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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Kind of a weird response to me pointing out that what's happening today is in no way out of the ordinary for the burger reich. There's no need for a fascist take over plot because burdgerland is already the heart of global fascism.

All I have done is respond in kind, suggesting you are not aware of things (comparative history), just as you suggested I wasn't aware of robber barons. We both know that fascism and capitalism are deeply linked. That you found my description of it superfluous is not a constructive way to start a conversation, and was at best going to find an odd response.

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All I have done is respond in kind, suggesting you are not aware of things (comparative history), just as you suggested I wasn't aware of robber barons. We both know that fascism and capitalism are deeply linked. That you found my description of it superfluous is not a constructive way to start a conversation, and was at best going to find an odd response.

I mean if you were aware of these things then it's not clear why you wrote your original comments which are nonsensical. If you understand that there is nothing new happening here and that the US has always been a fascist state, then braying about billionaires ruining your democracy is really weird. Seems like you have some cognitive dissonance to work through there.

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DarkCloud lemmy.world DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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I mean if you were aware of these things then it's not clear why you wrote your original comments which are nonsensical. If you understand that there is nothing new happening here and that the US has always been a fascist state, then braying about billionaires ruining your democracy is really weird. Seems like you have some cognitive dissonance to work through there.
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Who do you think put that idea in his tiny little brain?

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The whole point of the Tech Billionaires plan is to pull apart America, reset it to an earlier time, so they can carve it up into fifedoms and each rule an area. Good for them, but for everyone else (including the prestige of the country globally), it's clearly a step backwards and a downgrade. American Capitalists intentionally set out to kill American democracy. They have the money so are giv...

Capitalism's inevitable end stage.

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