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NVIDIA Confirms DLSS5 Is Essentially An AI Filter That Developers Can Control
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sanitation lemmy.today sanitation@lemmy.today
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BjΓΆrn swg-empire.de bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de
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supernight52 lemmy.world supernight52@lemmy.world
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Wow, the company that says they're "All-in" on AI is using a shitty AI filter to try and make games on their hardware look better? I'm shocked- SHOCKED, I say.

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dindonmasker sh.itjust.works Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works
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Wow, the company that says they're "All-in" on AI is using a shitty AI filter to try and make games on their hardware look better? I'm shocked- SHOCKED, I say.

"Better"

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AlteE programming.dev AlteE@programming.dev
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Does it mean that devs can turn it back to DLSS 4?

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supernight52 lemmy.world supernight52@lemmy.world
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"Better"

Operative word in that sentence was "try." Never said they succeeded.

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cybervseas lemmy.world cybervseas@lemmy.world
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"Better"

If people like tv motion smoothing (idk why but they do) then they'll love this πŸ˜”

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Maxxie piefed.blahaj.zone Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone
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To be fair, DLSS (aka Deep Learning Super Sampling) was an ML filter from the start.

I'm all for dunking on it cause it sucks, but the AI bit is basically in the name.

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valar lemmy.ca valar@lemmy.ca
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To be fair, DLSS (aka Deep Learning Super Sampling) was an ML filter from the start. I'm all for dunking on it cause it sucks, but the AI bit is basically in the name.

Wasn't it supposed to interpolate frames, not alter the whole look of the artwork? (I am ignorant of how DLSS works exactly)

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Maxxie piefed.blahaj.zone Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone
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Wasn't it supposed to interpolate frames, not alter the whole look of the artwork? (I am ignorant of how DLSS works exactly)

You can write a shader that drastically alters the artwork too, and DLSS is basically a closed source ML shader running on a separate chip (come at me gamedevs 😀)

edit: tho don't get me wrong it does suck. I don't know why would I ever want a face filter in a video game

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Ep1cFac3pa1m lemmy.world Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world
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You can write a shader that drastically alters the artwork too, and DLSS is basically a closed source ML shader running on a separate chip (come at me gamedevs 😀) edit: tho don't get me wrong it does suck. I don't know why would I ever want a face filter in a video game

I don't know why would I ever want a face filter in a video game

Actually I can see that being amazing as like a joke mod option. Imagine playing like Fallout or something and you can flip a toggle to make everyone look like handsome Squidward πŸ˜‚

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taiyang lemmy.world taiyang@lemmy.world
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Wasn't it supposed to interpolate frames, not alter the whole look of the artwork? (I am ignorant of how DLSS works exactly)

There has been machine learning for decades, but you're right in that interpolating frames is quite different from the way generative AI works. Both DLSS versions rely on a form of neural network but the latest ones are diffusion models which are more controversial, for reasons I'm sure you know.

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Noxy pawb.social noxypaws@pawb.social
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Wasn't it supposed to interpolate frames, not alter the whole look of the artwork? (I am ignorant of how DLSS works exactly)

if I understand right, DLSS (outside frame generation, a relatively newer DLSS feature) isn't interpolating frames, it's upscaling frames. and its never before altered the look beyond just upscaling it.

this new shit is definitely a different direction for DLSS and it sucks and I hate it

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alphabethunter lemmy.world alphabethunter@lemmy.world
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Wow, the company that says they're "All-in" on AI is using a shitty AI filter to try and make games on their hardware look better? I'm shocked- SHOCKED, I say.

It's not to make it better at all, but to give it that stupid AI Photo look.

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ekZepp lemmy.world ekZepp@lemmy.world
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https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2026/03/nvidia-ceo-tries-to-explain-why-dlss-5-isnt-just-ai-slop/

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warmaster lemmy.world warmaster@lemmy.world
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You can write a shader that drastically alters the artwork too, and DLSS is basically a closed source ML shader running on a separate chip (come at me gamedevs 😀) edit: tho don't get me wrong it does suck. I don't know why would I ever want a face filter in a video game

I want Doom with a Teletubbies filter.

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FlashMobOfOne lemmy.world FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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We don't want their slop.

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Leon pawb.social Dojan@pawb.social
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You can write a shader that drastically alters the artwork too, and DLSS is basically a closed source ML shader running on a separate chip (come at me gamedevs 😀) edit: tho don't get me wrong it does suck. I don't know why would I ever want a face filter in a video game

Because who doesn't want uncanny semi-realistic faces on Bethesda's abysmal facial animations?

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ChristerMLB piefed.social ChristerMLB@piefed.social
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that's about what I thought. Will be interesting to see what devs do with it – but I really hope they don't just start making games that only look right on Nvidia hardware.

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Bryan065 kbin.earth Bryan065@kbin.earth
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I don't know why would I ever want a face filter in a video game Actually I can see that being amazing as like a joke mod option. Imagine playing like Fallout or something and you can flip a toggle to make everyone look like handsome Squidward πŸ˜‚

Now I want a fallout: new Vegas remaster but every ghoul is handsome Squidward...

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Mac mander.xyz Mac@mander.xyz
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Wow, the company that says they're "All-in" on AI is using a shitty AI filter to try and make games on their hardware look better? I'm shocked- SHOCKED, I say.

They'll slopify your frames, slopify your games, and slopify your brains.

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fruitycoder sh.itjust.works fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
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If people like tv motion smoothing (idk why but they do) then they'll love this πŸ˜”

Do they? I'm amazed how many people prefer when it's turned off. Like it's one of the few true tech enthuist tricks I can quickly do for people

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cybervseas lemmy.world cybervseas@lemmy.world
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Do they? I'm amazed how many people prefer when it's turned off. Like it's one of the few true tech enthuist tricks I can quickly do for people

Look at all the people "fixing" shows by posting ai frame gen of them on YouTube πŸ˜”

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iopq lemmy.world iopq@lemmy.world
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Wasn't it supposed to interpolate frames, not alter the whole look of the artwork? (I am ignorant of how DLSS works exactly)

Yes, but it has to make up details to do that because it gets a lower resolution image, or for frame gen it gets two frames it needs to interpolate

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steelplatedmech piefed.ca steelplatedmech@piefed.ca
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To be fair, DLSS (aka Deep Learning Super Sampling) was an ML filter from the start. I'm all for dunking on it cause it sucks, but the AI bit is basically in the name.

I thought DLSS tried to retain the original look to make it look better at lower resolutions as opposed to changing the visuals like it is being run through a "beauty" filter.

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