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antonim lemmy.world antonim@lemmy.world
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espentan lemmy.world espentan@lemmy.world
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#2 · Quote Reply

"We had a think and realized fascism is what we're all about, so we're back!"

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ExtremeDullard piefed.social ExtremeDullard@piefed.social
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Mozilla is embracing the fasch like all the other motherfuckers.

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Zedstrian sopuli.xyz Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
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#4 · Quote Reply

Mozilla is truly going for tech bro territory with an unhealthy dose of AI mixed with fascism.

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Victor lemmy.world victorz@lemmy.world
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#5 · Quote Reply

Please, Mozilla, explain in detail exactly in which way the internet is changing again, that requires you to return to Faschitter? Please help me make sense of this.

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Marshezezz lemmy.blahaj.zone Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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pix_wbmr lemmy.world pix_wbmr@lemmy.world
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#7 · Quote Reply

Please, Mozilla, explain in detail exactly in which way the internet is changing again, that requires you to return to Faschitter? Please help me make sense of this.

The answer is money

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Victor lemmy.world victorz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-14
#8 · Quote Reply

The answer is money

Bet

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galoisghost aussie.zone galoisghost@aussie.zone
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#9 · Quote Reply

Where are the hard forks? That’s what’s truly needed.

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fraksken infosec.pub fraksken@infosec.pub
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#10 · Quote Reply

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No need to call names. Height challenged special people are people as well

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Rimu piefed.social rimu@piefed.social
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#11 · Quote Reply

It's one thing to have a hard time tearing yourself away from Twitter, quite another to knowingly go back.

Might as well just use Vivaldi at this point.

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Serinus lemmy.world Serinus@lemmy.world
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#12 · Quote Reply

Pathetic

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Fizz lemmy.nz Fizz@lemmy.nz
Joined: 2023-06-12
#13 · Quote Reply

This is such a non issue. It sucks that the platform is used but its where users are at so it makes sense for ff to be there. Its just unfortunate that they dont continue posting on mastodon.

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A Good Hunter lemmy.world a_good_hunter@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#14 · Quote Reply

Niding

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daniskarma lemmy.dbzer0.com daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#15 · Quote Reply

Mozilla is embracing the fasch like all the other motherfuckers.

Fascism is when using twitter?

It might be disappointing, but not much more.

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Kilgore Trout feddit.it kilgore_trout@feddit.it
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Please, Mozilla, explain in detail exactly in which way the internet is changing again, that requires you to return to Faschitter? Please help me make sense of this.

Cutting off Twitter means losing potential audience. It was an ideological stance when they did it, now nothing ideological is left at MozCorp.

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daniskarma lemmy.dbzer0.com daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-04-30
#17 · Quote Reply

I don't know if they really get more reach out there than in open platforms.

I certainly would never make a Twitter account for following them there.

If they don't post anywhere else I just won't hear them.

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ExtremeDullard piefed.social ExtremeDullard@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-08-25
#18 · (edited) Quote Reply

Fascism is when using twitter? It might be disappointing, but not much more.

Musk bought Twitter and renamed it X, and it now serves at the semi-official fascist-international forum.

In case you've lived under a giant rock since 2022...

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Rothe piefed.social Rothe@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-08-25
#19 · Quote Reply

This is such a non issue. It sucks that the platform is used but its where users are at so it makes sense for ff to be there. Its just unfortunate that they dont continue posting on mastodon.

Definitely not a non-issue to continue supporting an openly fascist social media. And especially declaring with proudness that they have returned.

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daniskarma lemmy.dbzer0.com daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Musk bought Twitter and renamed it X, and it now serves at the semi-official fascist-international forum. In case you've lived under a giant rock since 2022...

I just don't live in a echo chamber so closed that I would believe that any person using twitter is a fascist.

What would be next, anyone using firefox is a fascist?

You do understand where that way of thinking ends? You must understand it.

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macaw_dean_settle lemmy.world macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-09
#21 · Quote Reply

Bet

You didn't state how much you are betting.

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egrets lemmy.world egrets@lemmy.world
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#22 · Quote Reply

Where are the hard forks? That’s what’s truly needed.

Who's going to maintain an independent fork? It's a crazy amount of work.

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Zier fedia.io Zier@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-17
#23 · Quote Reply

Mozilla doesn't really like it's users. It wants it's users to be Chrome users.
I've said for too many years that they need to stop copying Google and forge their own path, that's how you change the browser market, not copying everyone else.

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mannycalavera feddit.uk mannycalavera@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-07-02
#24 · Quote Reply

Who's going to maintain an independent fork? It's a crazy amount of work.

Far easier to shit on Mozilla in a low traffic social network me thinks.

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galoisghost aussie.zone galoisghost@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-08-07
#25 · Quote Reply

Who's going to maintain an independent fork? It's a crazy amount of work.

Yeah. It would need to be a community effort.

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galoisghost aussie.zone galoisghost@aussie.zone
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#26 · Quote Reply

I just don't live in a echo chamber so closed that I would believe that any person using twitter is a fascist. What would be next, anyone using firefox is a fascist? You do understand where that way of thinking ends? You must understand it.

You accept the standard you walk past.

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daniskarma lemmy.dbzer0.com daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-04-30
#27 · Quote Reply

You accept the standard you walk past.

Just a question.

If firefox is a fascist company for using the product of a fascist.

Is everyone using firefox a fascist for using the product of what you say is a fascist company?

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inlandempire jlai.lu inlandempire@jlai.lu
Joined: 2023-08-01
#28 · (edited) Quote Reply

I just don't live in a echo chamber so closed that I would believe that any person using twitter is a fascist. What would be next, anyone using firefox is a fascist? You do understand where that way of thinking ends? You must understand it.

What way of thinking are you describing exactly? Twitter is owned and run by a Nazi, it is being used as a tool to promote his political ideology. We're 4 years in, anyone still there is either ignorant on the matter, or complacent about being paft of a fascist online platform

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/08/13/how-elon-musk-uses-x-to-support-the-far-right-and-its-financial-interests_6714673_4.html

https://theconversation.com/a-few-weeks-of-xs-algorithm-can-make-you-more-right-wing-and-it-doesnt-wear-off-quickly-276153

https://www.avclub.com/twitter-x-amplifying-right-wing-accounts

https://english.elpais.com/technology/2026-07-15/from-twitter-to-x-the-most-polarizing-social-network-still-dominates-20-years-on.html

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Rose lemmy.zip Rose@lemmy.zip
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#29 · Quote Reply

It's one thing to have a hard time tearing yourself away from Twitter, quite another to knowingly go back. Might as well just use Vivaldi at this point.

Vivaldi makes it easier for Google to maintain its monopoly and dictate how things are on the web. Google is way worse than Mozilla in every aspect. A Firefox fork is the way.

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daniskarma lemmy.dbzer0.com daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#30 · Quote Reply

What way of thinking are you describing exactly? Twitter is owned and run by a Nazi, it is being used as a tool to promote his political ideology. We're 4 years in, anyone still there is either ignorant on the matter, or complacent about being paft of a fascist online platform https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/08/13/how-elon-musk-uses-x-to-support-the-far-right-and-its-financ...

You don't need to convince me of that.

I've been saying Musk is fash from way before be associated himself with Trump.

He is fascist because he believes in fascist ideology.

The way of thinking I talk about is thinking someone is fascist because they use a product or service provided by a fascist. Because the logical conclusions of that line of though are terrible.

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Fizz lemmy.nz Fizz@lemmy.nz
Joined: 2023-06-12
#31 · Quote Reply

Definitely not a non-issue to continue supporting an openly fascist social media. And especially declaring with proudness that they have returned.

They got 2.4m views on a single post. Firefox needs to reach users and this is a successful and free method of doing so.

I sure hope your hands are clean from similar support I'd hate for stones to be getting thrown in glass houses.

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athatet lemmy.zip athatet@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-09-12
#32 · Quote Reply

They got 2.4m views on a single post. Firefox needs to reach users and this is a successful and free method of doing so. I sure hope your hands are clean from similar support I'd hate for stones to be getting thrown in glass houses.

Corps don’t need you defending them for supporting fascists.

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Rimu piefed.social rimu@piefed.social
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#33 · Quote Reply

Vivaldi makes it easier for Google to maintain its monopoly and dictate how things are on the web. Google is way worse than Mozilla in every aspect. A Firefox fork is the way.

You're right.

Plus, after trying it for an hour, I can't get used to Vivaldi's gross font rendering.

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mycodesucks lemmy.world mycodesucks@lemmy.world
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#34 · Quote Reply

This is such a non issue. It sucks that the platform is used but its where users are at so it makes sense for ff to be there. Its just unfortunate that they dont continue posting on mastodon.

It needs to be said...

Not all users are created equal, and users who are STILL in 2026 happily ignoring what's happening at X may be a source of money, but they also continue to show on a daily basis an appalling lack of judgement and principle which, if sought, will eventually bleed into the decision-making of the direction of the product. This is not "creating a bigger tent", this is "inviting in people who are going to change the very nature of the inside of the tent". It's not an overreaction OR unreasonable for users who choose to use Firefox SPECIFICALLY for its potential to provide an unenshittified alternative to Google's trash to see Firefox desperately trying to attract people cheering for the trash and decide they want out.

In the BEST case scenario, they fail to attract the new users and this is an embarrassing culdesac, but they've STILL significantly damaged their credibility with core users who know what this tactic is. And in the WORST, they GET a massive number of new users from the large numbers on X, and now the core Firefox users no longer have a say in the direction of the product - they've become a minority.

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adam_y lemmy.world adam_y@lemmy.world
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unexposedhazard discuss.tchncs.de unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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#36 · Quote Reply

The answer is money

Always has been at Mozilla

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iknewitwhenisawit fedinsfw.app iknewitwhenisawit@fedinsfw.app
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#37 · Quote Reply

Is this real? I never had a Twitter or X account, but going there I don't see this post.

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cabbage piefed.social cabbage@piefed.social
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#38 · Quote Reply

It's one thing to have a hard time tearing yourself away from Twitter, quite another to knowingly go back. Might as well just use Vivaldi at this point.

My unwillingness to use Chromium borders on the extreme, but this is the final straw for me. Vivaldi seems more aligned with my values than any other major player at this point, and the Firefox forks don't sit quite right with me.

I can't wait for Servo to be ready.

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Rothe piefed.social Rothe@piefed.social
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#39 · Quote Reply

This really requires the angry goose meme with the goose yelling: "Why did you take time off x?"

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CheeseNoodle lemmy.world CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#40 · Quote Reply

Yet another reason firefox is now relegated to being my second browser (a spot previously ocupied by edge)

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Iunnrais piefed.social Iunnrais@piefed.social
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#41 · Quote Reply

You don't need to convince me of that. I've been saying Musk is fash from way before be associated himself with Trump. He is fascist because he believes in fascist ideology. The way of thinking I talk about is thinking someone is fascist because they use a product or service provided by a fascist. Because the logical conclusions of that line of though are terrible.

There’s a saying…
“If there are ten people sitting at a table eating dinner, and one of them is a nazi, you’ve got ten nazis.”

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MagnificentSteiner lemmy.zip MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip
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#42 · Quote Reply

Is this real? I never had a Twitter or X account, but going there I don't see this post.

Yeah, they don't show you the latest stuff if you're not logged in.

Using this alternative twitter frontend, you can see the post

https://lightbrd.com/firefox/status/2079317211152564724#m

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Victor lemmy.world victorz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-14
#43 · Quote Reply

You didn't state how much you are betting.

Two

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tetris11 feddit.uk tetris11@feddit.uk
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#44 · (edited) Quote Reply

Just a question. If firefox is a fascist company for using the product of a fascist. Is everyone using firefox a fascist for using the product of what you say is a fascist company?

"You say hate peanuts, but by the transitive property of being a literal nutcase, you hate yourself? Curious." 🙄 (cmon..)

If the place you get your groceries starts giving handjobs to racists, despite what the staff and their customers want, would it be a place you still want to shop at

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Victor lemmy.world victorz@lemmy.world
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#45 · Quote Reply

Cutting off Twitter means losing potential audience. It was an ideological stance when they did it, now nothing ideological is left at MozCorp.

I know, it's a facetious comment meant to put them on the spot for blaming some sort of "change in the internet (again)".

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daniskarma lemmy.dbzer0.com daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#46 · Quote Reply

There’s a saying… “If there are ten people sitting at a table eating dinner, and one of them is a nazi, you’ve got ten nazis.”

That logic leads to infinite nazi generation.

And to some incongruencies.

What happens if there's 10 person in the table, one is nazi and one is antifa. Are them all nazis? Are them all antifascist?

It doesn't seem like good logic to me.

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daniskarma lemmy.dbzer0.com daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#47 · (edited) Quote Reply

"You say hate peanuts, but by the transitive property of being a literal nutcase, you hate yourself? Curious." 🙄 (cmon..) If the place you get your groceries starts giving handjobs to racists, despite what the staff and their customers want, would it be a place you still want to shop at

One thing is not liking/agreeing them. Other much different is calling them fascist.

I'm not a sith lord. Not all who is not with me is against me.

Maybe if I go, being antifascist, they also give me a handjob. Then what? Are they racist for giving handjob to racist, are they antifa for giving handjob to antifa?

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Swedneck discuss.tchncs.de Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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#48 · Quote Reply

Mozilla doesn't really like it's users. It wants it's users to be Chrome users. I've said for too many years that they need to stop copying Google and forge their own path, that's how you change the browser market, not copying everyone else.

as social democrats have shown, copying your shithead competition is definitely 100% certainly undoubtedly THE only way to guarantee 100% that you recover all losses and continue to grow.

oh wait

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Swedneck discuss.tchncs.de Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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#49 · Quote Reply

I just don't live in a echo chamber so closed that I would believe that any person using twitter is a fascist. What would be next, anyone using firefox is a fascist? You do understand where that way of thinking ends? You must understand it.

at this point i can't take anyone who says "echo chamber" seriously any more, it's only used to defend shitheads

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tetris11 feddit.uk tetris11@feddit.uk
Joined: 2025-02-17
#50 · Quote Reply

One thing is not liking/agreeing them. Other much different is calling them fascist. I'm not a sith lord. Not all who is not with me is against me. Maybe if I go, being antifascist, they also give me a handjob. Then what? Are they racist for giving handjob to racist, are they antifa for giving handjob to antifa?

why would they give you a racist handjob if you were antifascist...

... and I swear to god if your answer is something along the lines of "because antifascists are, like, fascist with their antifascism" then one of us needs to touch grass

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katy ✨ piefed.blahaj.zone cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-06
#51 · Quote Reply

This is such a non issue. It sucks that the platform is used but its where users are at so it makes sense for ff to be there. Its just unfortunate that they dont continue posting on mastodon.

i mean users of firefox aren't really on twitter; very few people are actually on twitter. it's a niche social media platform made bigger because the dc pundit class circlejerks on it to pat themselves on the back.

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