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VetOfTheSeas
discuss.online
VetOfTheSeas@discuss.onlineJoined: 2025-04-27 |
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bluGill
fedia.io
bluGill@fedia.io Joined: 2024-08-15 |
I used to live not far from there, in Monticello. Everybody knew there was nuclear power plant in town, but most people when asked where it was pointed to the coal plant in this story which a couple towns away. |
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TIEPilot
lemmy.world
TIEPilot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-15 |
I think we should keep the coal plant in warm storage just in case. One big hail storm/tornado could cripple this system. Just food for thought in an emergency. |
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cb900f_bodhi
fedinsfw.app
cb900f_bodhi@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-04-09 |
I think we should keep the coal plant in warm storage just in case. One big hail storm/tornado could cripple this system. Just food for thought in an emergency.
I'm not sure why you're getting down votes for this. Isn't having some redundancy or backup plan a good idea? What am I missing here? |
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ChubbyHot
lemmy.world
ChubbyHot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-20 |
I'm not sure why you're getting down votes for this. Isn't having some redundancy or backup plan a good idea? What am I missing here?
Likely because the coal plant was set to retire anyway. No point in paying someone millions to keep this coal plant as a backup for rare events. The Power company will have contingencies and the national grid to rely on, which are cheaper than keeping an old coal plant warm. |
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Krzd
lemmy.world
Krzd@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-01 |
I'm not sure why you're getting down votes for this. Isn't having some redundancy or backup plan a good idea? What am I missing here?
Because small scale breakdowns are irrelevant with today's power grids. Redundancy is provided via the next city/country nearby. Importing the power might be a few cents more expensive during peak hours, but that's nothing compared to the costs of having an outdated power plant doing nothing for years. However, the real answer why he's being down voted is because it's a pretend intellectual argument favoured by people against renewable power generation, without actually contributing anything of worth. |
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AA5B
lemmy.world
AA5B@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
I think we should keep the coal plant in warm storage just in case. One big hail storm/tornado could cripple this system. Just food for thought in an emergency.
It is neither cheap nor easy to keep a coal plant in working order with a supply of fuel, “just in case”. Especially one that was set to retire anyway so probably has a lot of deferred maintenance and end of life components. Very much not worth it Redundancies for plant outages are already a feature of the grid |
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Kairos
lemmy.today
LodeMike@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-12-26 |
I think we should keep the coal plant in warm storage just in case. One big hail storm/tornado could cripple this system. Just food for thought in an emergency.
Hail isn't a big problem for solar |
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Professorozone
lemmy.world
Professorozone@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-14 |
That's not possible. We need clean, beautiful coal!!! Drill baby drill!!! /s |
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T156
lemmy.world
T156@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
I think we should keep the coal plant in warm storage just in case. One big hail storm/tornado could cripple this system. Just food for thought in an emergency.
In fairness, I don't think that a coal power plant would fare any better against a tornado. |
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apftwb
lemmy.world
apftwb@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-06-22 |
300 MW of grid storage too btw. |
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surewhynotlem
lemmy.world
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
I think we should keep the coal plant in warm storage just in case. One big hail storm/tornado could cripple this system. Just food for thought in an emergency.
Nah, convert it to nuclear |
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TIEPilot
lemmy.world
TIEPilot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-15 |
Nah, convert it to nuclear
I would have suggested that as its the best bang for the buck. But people lose their mind when its on the table... |
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apftwb
lemmy.world
apftwb@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-06-22 |
I think we should keep the coal plant in warm storage just in case. One big hail storm/tornado could cripple this system. Just food for thought in an emergency.
In 2024 a tornado hit a solar field. I was wondering how the industry was responding to this. Found this article. https://www.powermag.com/the-solar-industry-is-getting-smarter-about-storm-defense/
I cannot find details on if these are fixed or tracking panels. Also looking at the map, it doesn't seem like this is all one big facility, but distributed across a few miles. |
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Nocklusamigos
lemmy.world
liuther9@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-09-15 |
I would have suggested that as its the best bang for the buck. But people lose their mind when its on the table...
You want nuclear plant and natural disaster to meet each other? |
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restkas
lemmy.world
restkas@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-07-24 |
all this solar projects are going to fail |
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boonhet
sopuli.xyz
boonhet@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2025-06-16 |
300 MW of grid storage too btw.
300 MW for how long? A second? An hour? A day? |
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boonhet
sopuli.xyz
boonhet@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2025-06-16 |
I would have suggested that as its the best bang for the buck. But people lose their mind when its on the table...
Building nuclear in a country with proper safety standards and everything is insanely expensive, where did you get the idea that it's the "best bang for the buck"? There are always cost overruns and they tend to be a multiple of the original project cost estimate. |
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surewhynotlem
lemmy.world
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Building nuclear in a country with proper safety standards and everything is insanely expensive, where did you get the idea that it's the "best bang for the buck"? There are always cost overruns and they tend to be a multiple of the original project cost estimate.
A good chunk of the cost of a nuclear plant is all the steam driven turbines and power infrastructure. That's already there in a retrofitted coal plant. And even without that, nuclear is cheaper in the long run. And even without that, not everything is about the god damned money. |
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MrNesser
lemmy.world
MrNesser@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
all this solar projects are going to fail
explain why, please justify this comment? |
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apftwb
lemmy.world
apftwb@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-06-22 |
300 MW for how long? A second? An hour? A day?
I have committed the sin of mixing energy with power units. I think its 300 MWh. Phase 3 just completed. Here is the proposal from Phase 4, which is supposedly going to increase from 300MW(?) to 600MW(?). The proposal is also kinda loose with their units. |
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Mr_Dr_Oink
lemmy.world
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
all this solar projects are going to fail
In the same way that you failed language? |
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Resonosity
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-07-21 |
300 MW for how long? A second? An hour? A day?
If it's Lithium-ion battery storage, I'd wager the dis/charge rate is anywhere from 2-4 hours. Assuming 300 MW, that's a 600-1,200 MWh battery. Assuming 300 MWh, that's a 75-150 MW battery. |
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melsaskca
lemmy.ca
melsaskca@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-09 |
Rodents generating energy on a hamster wheel thingy is our last, best hope! /s |
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restkas
lemmy.world
restkas@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-07-24 |
explain why, please justify this comment?
im against , i see them fail at Greece and now are just rusty metals at the field instead of farms |
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MrKoyun
lemmy.world
MrKoyun@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-01-20 |
Building nuclear in a country with proper safety standards and everything is insanely expensive, where did you get the idea that it's the "best bang for the buck"? There are always cost overruns and they tend to be a multiple of the original project cost estimate.
Also you need to keep buying/extracting nuclear fuel to run a nuclear power plant... With solar, the sun is the fuel! With no buying or extracting, it removes a big ongoing cost from the equation and significantly improves self-reliance. I don't understand how this seems to not communicate to people. |
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nodiratime
lemmy.world
nodiratime@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
im against , i see them fail at Greece and now are just rusty metals at the field instead of farms
Sure thing buddy. |
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Kind_to_Everyone
slrpnk.net
Kind_to_Everyone@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-05-17 |
300 MW for how long? A second? An hour? A day?
The exact figures: 735.5 MW AC Verified from Minnesota PUC and EQB. |
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boonhet
sopuli.xyz
boonhet@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2025-06-16 |
The exact figures: 735.5 MW AC 2,942 MWh Verified from Minnesota PUC and EQB.
Oh that's pretty damn beefy |
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AdolfSchmitler
lemmy.world
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Rodents generating energy on a hamster wheel thingy is our last, best hope! /s
Psch, set up a bike/pedal generator and make people pedal to power their TV/ laptop/ video games. That way we'll have energy and everyone will be super in shape! /s |
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AdolfSchmitler
lemmy.world
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
I think we should keep the coal plant in warm storage just in case. One big hail storm/tornado could cripple this system. Just food for thought in an emergency.
You mean like what happened in Texas? Oh wait that happened to their coal plants too. |
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