I should go get a meat mountain, hold the foreskin.

but seriously, circumcision is an absolutely pointless stupid bullshit stone age "tradition" that should have gone away thousands of years ago. why the fuck is this shit still even a thing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx_ov2NiNo4

While I tend to agree, it's absolutely mostly pointless.

I have an elderly friend that had to get a late circumcision around age 65 or so, as well as have a cyst removed from the head of his penis..

There are valid medical reasons, but tradition/religious reasons are indeed bullshit.

I mean, he's right.

Is there some context for those of us who didn't default to USA during the birthplace lottery that makes this a funny meme?

Well, just like with bloodletting, there’s a limited medical use for it nowadays.
However , the simple traditional chop chopchopping still has biblical meaning.

the difference is that your friend's situation was a medical treatment, and it was voluntary

making that sort of permanent decision for your newborn infant is what's bullshit

The period pants were a bold choice

i wasn't arguing that it didn't have "biblical meaning," i'm saying the "biblical meaning" is absolute fucking bullshit

and yes, it follows that i'm calling the bible bullshit, which it is

i wouldn't be mad about it if it weren't wrecking so many innocent lives

Agreed

Wow, remember seeing these guys on Tosh.0 nearly 5ish years ago, surprised the movement is still going.

https://www.bloodstainedmen.com/

more testicles means more iron

You're not tricking me into eating Rocky mountain oysters again.

Somewhat common for people protesting circumcision. I remember a small group of people dressed similarly at my college a long time ago.

Pro-dickchop lunatics always come with the most outrageous arguments to defend it. HURRr it’s more hygenic, ok better cut off my fucking eyelids because there’s crusty shit under em’ in the morning. HURRr you might get complications later in life, ok guess I’d better kill myself in case I die.

Please.

I don't even have a dick and I'm offended you would cut allusions to your favorite shitty book into someone else's penis without their consent. Do you not understand how profoundly fucking sick that is? Christianity is a disease.

Like if I knocked you out or found you passed out drunk then used a laser to burn the phrase 'mostly harmless' into your genitals in a way that would leave a life long scar, I'd get quite a kick out of it, and it has so many layers of meaning in reference to a shitty mess of a book I read a bunch as a kid. So it's fine to do. Honestly if we ever meet I'm doing this.

Based Arby's guy.

I wonder if it's one of those things that became religious because of early medical or pseudo medical procedures.

It's like, the "no pork" or "no shellfish" in the Bible probably had a real event of rotten meat or common seafood allergies in a population. But, evolved into people stoning someone for mixing cotton and wool fabrics together.

I'm just bull shitting. But I like to think silly religious things actually had some initial reason in a population before they were just silly beliefs.

The "no men sleeping with men" part was obviously patriarchal constructs. But it would be funny if it was just some jealous leader that realized he was gay after getting married "if I can't suck other guys dick no one can! Thus sayeth the Lord!"

It's the juxtaposition with the Arby's in the background (a fast food chain) and their "we have the meats" motto.

The implication here being that the foreskins are the meats.

Thought this dude had a doug dimmidome hat for a hot second

I like to think silly religious things actually had some initial reason

why?

I wholeheartedly believe that any parent that circumcised their kids should be charged with felony level child abuse.

You're mutilating an infant for aesthetical purposes.

If the idea of female genital mutilation sounds deplorable yet you don't mind circumcision you're fucked in the head and need put in a mental facility.

Arby's is not the right venue for this protest.

May I suggest the Silent Hill 4 Wikia?

Because a belief system that tells people to avoid doing certain things can actually be beneficial to the overall population.

Like not eating pork or shellfish. Not only is the allergy thing a potential factor in saving lives but if these meats aren't cooked properly they can straight up kill you.

Or things like banning homosexuality (I'm not homophobic by any means this is me trying to explain it in the basest way I can). If you're gay you're not gonna be having children of your own (most of the time, I know gay people who are closeted can and will have children to hide their sexuality) which could potentially end a bloodline which could end a population.

Not every part of a belief system is based on stuff like this but a lot of them are. They were used as a method of keeping the human population as strong as possible especially during times of crisis.

With all this said imho religion needs to die. We're no longer apes hiding in caves with no way of understanding what's happening around us. They were useful when humanity was in it's early stages of development but hold no value in the modern age

OK I agree with the point he's making. But wow, THIS is the issue he's taking up?

i mean you can tell everyone don't eat the poison mushrooms without making a whole fucking religion around that,,,but whatever\

yes, religion needs to die

I agree with you but with things like nuclear waste dump sites scientists have thought about creating a religious style belief system to prevent future generations from digging in those areas.

Unfortunately religions can span for millennia so a religion that includes staying away from dangerous radioactive waste is a potential way of keeping future humans from giving themselves/each other radiation poisoning/cancer.

The point being religions usually have good teachings that keep humans alive. They just get muddled by bullshit because people want control.

yea fair enough. hail capitalism

So that's what goes on their roast beef sandwiches... 🤔

Gotta believe in something. I'm just glad it's a good thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCSWbTv3hng

This is bad solidarity. Each of us takes up the issues that matter to us, and we support eachother's causes as we're able.

I'm glad people were more supportive than you when female genital mutilation was initially banned, and I hope the effort of people like this succeeds in banning male genital mutilation the same way.

Whatever issue you think should be fought, I hope it's progressive and good and you get the support you need to see it through.

Am circumsized haven't washed my penis in years

TIL Tosh.0 aired into 2020

I agree.
It's batshit crazy that it's common practice

Circumcision in America also has more to do with quacks like Harvey Kellogg.

He's not the primary reason. There were groups of influential people in the late 19th century pushing wild ideas. However, circumcision wasn't as widespread until the early 20th century.

That's not that long ago, but long enough to fuck up generations of boys and force them to think it's normal to be mutilated.

OK, again not against it. I hope everyone feels good about their contributions.

Not saying I agree with any unnecessary and involuntary surgery done to children, but conflating female genitalia mutilation with male circumcision is not the best way to make your point.

To people whose social norm already includes male circumcision it doesn't do anything but downplay how bad fgm really is. On just about every level fgm is more dangerous to perform and has significantly worse long-term outcomes.

They both suck, but fgm is objectively on an entirely different scale of harm.

Circumcision predates the Bible by at least 6000 years. The earliest depictions of circumcision have been found in tribal rock art in africa dating back to around 8000-10000bc.

Hell, even Herodotus mentions that Egyptians had been practicing circumcision since before recorded history.

From what we can gather the cultural practice migrated with people in the great push out of africa.

Ah "juxtaposition" a word I learned in English class I NEVER thought I'd see again...

Did I say I suggest I agree with the non-medical practice or with the bible? I do not.

Okay, but it would be really funny so I'm still gonna. Sorry. I gotta laugh about the lack of bodily autonomy, or I'm gonna cry. You understand.

Yes, completely. I find the practice awful, and the female version truly gruesome.

Well, I think they came from some material event. "The water was making people sick so anyone that doesn't boil their water is an 'abomination' in the eyes of the Lord". That kind of reasoning.

Not that the entire premise was correct. But more that the conclusion was beneficial for the conditions of the time and was never revised based on new material circumstances. It became dogma instead.

I guess quoting me like that I do sound silly. But, I had hoped my comment in context implied what I meant.

I was also joking at the end about the homophobic shit if that wasn't obvious too.

I forgot about the Kellogg guy. But you're right. Unfortunately, I think the anti circumcision movement in the US is entirely captured by people that are more concerned with enforcing patriarchal constructs. They are unable to see circumcision as a negative result of patriarchal history that boys are hurt by and instead focus on it as "men having it worse" while ignoring the bigger picture.

This procedure wrecking innocent lives or religion overall? This procedure by itself is not that bad. Makes life easier too. In my experience ofc. I am an atheist btw

People who get riled up over this are so fucking weird.

I don't think laser ablation counts as cavitation, don't push your fetish on others! /s

Real talk though, I do agree that any religion that requires the mutilation of any part of a child, let alone their genitals is ass backwards and shouldn't exist, failing that, should be entirely voluntary only performed after the child has grown into an adult that can make their own decisions

I mean, yes. But Arby's can't help.

This procedure by itself is not that bad

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240804903_Lost_Boys_An_Estimate_of_US_Circumcision-Related_Infant_Deaths

how many deaths would it take for you to say it's bad?

In my experience ofc

if you were circumcised at birth, then how can you possibly know that it's "easier" being cut than not?

want to talk about any other topics you know nothing about?

edit:

Allen Ervin, born 1985, was in a coma for more than six years before he died. He had been on life support after his brain was damaged from oxygen deprivation during his circumcision. Demetrius Manker was born in 1993 and died soon thereafter from blood loss. The coroner’s examination found a large, gaping wound on the underside of the boy’s penis extending almost to the scrotum. The coroner listed cause of death as blood loss due to penile circumcision; however, there is no mention of further action being taken. A West Virginia child, whose name was withheld, was born in 1996 without incident and circumcised prior to hospital release. A few days later, the parents rushed him to the emergency room because he was having seizures and his penis had turned green in color. He died the next day from septicemia.

Because the penis is highly vascularized, blood-loss is a risk even for boys circumcised past the neonatal period. In 2008, a 6-week-old Native American, Eric Keefe, died from massive blood loss. Hospital officials claimed that his circumcision was not to blame, but instead faulted the parents because they had administered over-the-counter pain medication that, they also claimed, thinned his blood.

https://www.darboninstitute.org/circumcision_deaths_complications_usa

I have other kinks too, and ifthey can impose their cults; I can impose my kinks. I'll stop when they stop.