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supersquirrel
sopuli.xyz
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Vegan_Joe
anarchist.nexus
Vegan_Joe@anarchist.nexus Joined: 2025-09-06 |
So do the laws apply at the border or not? If he has no constitutional rights because he's supposedly not on U.S. soil, then he couldn't be breaking U.S. law, since he technically isn't there... |
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atomicbocks
sh.itjust.works
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-02-16 |
I’m confused. The constitution always applies between US citizens and US agents regardless of location. The 5th amendment applies here. It honestly sounds like they are either trying to further besmirch/criminalize GrapheneOS or they are butthurt that they got tricked. |
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CubitOom
infosec.pub
CubitOom@infosec.pubJoined: 2023-06-08 |
https://lemmy.today/c/news is a fascist anti-woke instance, and @PapaSkwat@lemmy.today will ban you for downvoting or disagreeing in anyway. I'm surprised they even posted this article but I think it may just be to grow their terrible community. Point is, don't crosspost them. If you think it should be shared then just make a newpost, don't give them traffic or normalization. |
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makeshift0546
lemmy.today
makeshift0546@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-05-11 |
https://lemmy.today/c/news is a fascist anti-woke instance, and @PapaSkwat@lemmy.today will ban you for downvoting or disagreeing in anyway. I'm surprised they even posted this article but I think it may just be to grow their terrible community. Point is, don't crosspost them. If you think it should be shared then just make a newpost, don't give them traffic or normalization.
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yeahiknow3
lemmy.dbzer0.com
yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-06-08 |
Tunick’s case also raises ongoing questions about what constitutional rights can be invoked at the border, which the U.S. government has long asserted is not U.S. soil until a person is authorized to enter. So do the laws apply at the border or not? If he has no constitutional rights because he's supposedly not on U.S. soil, then he couldn't be breaking U.S. law, since he technically isn't there...
They’re basically saying murder is legal at the border. Bizarre legal theory. |
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Ptsf
lemmy.world
Ptsf@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-15 |
I’m confused. The constitution always applies between US citizens and US agents regardless of location. The 5th amendment applies here. It honestly sounds like they are either trying to further besmirch/criminalize GrapheneOS or they are butthurt that they got tricked.
Actually, and you're gonna hate this, but it does not not... At least according to the government... At least according to the government if you're within 100 miles of the border. 😤 |
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atomicbocks
sh.itjust.works
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-02-16 |
Actually, and you're gonna hate this, but it does not not... At least according to the government... At least according to the government if you're within 100 miles of the border. 😤
I can still plead the fifth even within 100 miles of a border or an airport. And that’s the reason that what you’re saying is wrong because they count airports as part of the borders, 100 miles from the airport would mean every major city is no longer under the protection of the constitution. |
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Ptsf
lemmy.world
Ptsf@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-15 |
I can still plead the fifth even within 100 miles of a border or an airport. And that’s the reason that what you’re saying is wrong because they count airports as part of the borders, 100 miles from the airport would mean every major city is no longer under the protection of the constitution.
Being allowed just one of your rights under the constitution is not being allowed all of them. If you're within 100 miles of a border, a US customs agent can by current law surpress your 4th amendment right. I did not mean to imply that you lost all constitutional protections in such zone, but the current government doesn't really care about constitutional intent or law and has punched all kinds of holes in it. Just see the current admins attempts to revoke the 14th amendment without an act of congress. Laws are messy. What it says on the tin is not garunteed to be what you're allowed, especially in our modern oligarchical republic. |
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