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zabadoh
ani.social
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zabadoh
ani.social
zabadoh@ani.social Joined: 2023-11-19 |
It's just one incident of many exam leaking/selling scandals for life-changing access to elite education, but this one actually resulted in some measure of justice. With youth unemployment at 9.9%, competition for any path to a better life is fierce. Young people have committed suicide over having to take the exam again The national exam problem appears to be endemic: According to this article, there have been 152 major exam leaks since 2014. The leaks benefit those who can afford expensive elite "coaching centres" who are the financial incentive for the exam thefts, i.e. India's wealthy and powerful. |
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Rogue Metahuman
lemmy.world
roguemetahuman@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-20 |
It's just one incident of many exam leaking/selling scandals for life-changing access to elite education, but this one actually resulted in some measure of justice. With youth unemployment at 9.9%, competition for any path to a better life is fierce. Young people have committed suicide over having to take the exam again The national exam problem appears to be endemic: According to this article,...
very interesting to see that the article specifically mentions leaks since 2014. It was worst pre-2014 when the current opposition party was in power. Make me feel the article has a political agenda rather than stating the facts. |
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skhayfa
lemmy.world
skhayfa@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-08 |
That was very inspiring, hope they'll keep the fire burning and organize to fight corruption at all levels. |
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skhayfa
lemmy.world
skhayfa@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-08 |
very interesting to see that the article specifically mentions leaks since 2014. It was worst pre-2014 when the current opposition party was in power. Make me feel the article has a political agenda rather than stating the facts.
Source? |
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excursion22
piefed.ca
excursion22@piefed.ca Joined: 2025-09-16 |
It's not so different from professional exams in Canada/Untied States. Applicants with some wealth to put into a tutor are often more successful, while also requiring a not insignificant fee to write the exam, effectively gatekeeping professional colleges from the less well-off. E: to clear up some confusion...there is a fee paid by the person taking/writing/being assessed by the exam. Apparently the meaning 'to write' an exam is not consistent, but I intended the Canadian/British English meaning. |
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WaterWaiver
aussie.zone
WaterWaiver@aussie.zone Joined: 2023-06-14 |
It's not so different from professional exams in Canada/Untied States. Applicants with some wealth to put into a tutor are often more successful, while also requiring a not insignificant fee to write the exam, effectively gatekeeping professional colleges from the less well-off. E: to clear up some confusion...there is a fee paid by the person taking/writing/being assessed by the exam. Apparent...
What does this mean? |
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Kissaki
feddit.org
Kissaki@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-07-14 |
requiring a not insignificant fee to write the exam What does this mean?
I read it as it costs money to take the the exam. So in that sentence 1. pay tutor 2. pay for exam. |
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Kissaki
feddit.org
Kissaki@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-07-14 |
I got very confused about the reported time scale. "week-long protests", quoting the minister with "10 days". Pretty sure I've seen reporting on the cockroach movement and protests between two to six weeks ago. Later in the article the timespan gets mixed up.
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atro_city
fedia.io
atro_city@fedia.io Joined: 2023-08-05 |
requiring a not insignificant fee to write the exam What does this mean?
Are you having trouble with the English or the lack of specificity regarding the amount of the fee? |
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atro_city
fedia.io
atro_city@fedia.io Joined: 2023-08-05 |
very interesting to see that the article specifically mentions leaks since 2014. It was worst pre-2014 when the current opposition party was in power. Make me feel the article has a political agenda rather than stating the facts.
Correlation doesn't mean causation (if what you say is even true). |
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atro_city
fedia.io
atro_city@fedia.io Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Now they just have to fix their education system. But this is a good first step. It shows that protesting and demonstrating can lead to change. |
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faintwhenfree
lemmus.org
faintwhenfree@lemmus.org Joined: 2023-07-16 |
Now they just have to fix their education system. But this is a good first step. It shows that protesting and demonstrating can lead to change.
A lot to be fixed in the education system for sure. But how is leaked exam is failure of government? |
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faintwhenfree
lemmus.org
faintwhenfree@lemmus.org Joined: 2023-07-16 |
Are you having trouble with the English or the lack of specificity regarding the amount of the fee?
Be kind to strangers. Maybe he did have trouble with English. |
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atro_city
fedia.io
atro_city@fedia.io Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Be kind to strangers. Maybe he did have trouble with English.
I am being kind and not assuming I know what they mean. I'm willing to explain the English if that's the problem. You're not being kind by assuming I want to insult them. |
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atro_city
fedia.io
atro_city@fedia.io Joined: 2023-08-05 |
A lot to be fixed in the education system for sure. But how is leaked exam is failure of government?
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hancock
retrolemmy.com
hancock@retrolemmy.com Joined: 2025-07-03 |
A lot to be fixed in the education system for sure. But how is leaked exam is failure of government?
Are you really asking this question? |
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faintwhenfree
lemmus.org
faintwhenfree@lemmus.org Joined: 2023-07-16 |
2026 NEET controversy
Ok so from what I read, papers were leaked. Whoever leaked it is a criminal. I'm not reading if government colluded or anything. No doubts about centralised admission system is unfair and blaming government for that. But again if paper is leaked, it's criminals committing crime, govt is supposed to catch them. So what is the complaint government is not doing enough to catch the criminals? And even if govt is not doing enough to catch the criminals, why ask education minister to resign? Shouldn't it be whichever ministry is responsible for handling police? |
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faintwhenfree
lemmus.org
faintwhenfree@lemmus.org Joined: 2023-07-16 |
Are you really asking this question?
Yes, because I'm not familiar with intricacies of Indian political systems. I have spent some time in India, I understand some but not all. It maybe obvious to you. If you live in India. It's not obvious to me. I'm happy to learn more. But if you don't want to/ or are not able to explain, how would I sympathize with you? I want to sympathize with the common man. |
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atro_city
fedia.io
atro_city@fedia.io Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Ok so from what I read, papers were leaked. Whoever leaked it is a criminal. I'm not reading if government colluded or anything. No doubts about centralised admission system is unfair and blaming government for that. But again if paper is leaked, it's criminals committing crime, govt is supposed to catch them. So what is the complaint government is not doing enough to catch the criminals? And e...
The problem is created by a bad education system. Testing is part of the education system. Making it mandatory to take this test and giving privileged access to preparation is a problem of the government that should be fixed. If you look at the wikipedia article, there is another incident, just like this one, that happened in 2024. The ousted education minister was the minister back then and nothing improved. The problems are systemic and should've been tackled by the education minister, which is why he was forced to leave. |
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faintwhenfree
lemmus.org
faintwhenfree@lemmus.org Joined: 2023-07-16 |
The problem is created by a bad education system. Testing is part of the education system. Making it mandatory to take this test and giving privileged access to preparation is a problem of the government that should be fixed. If you look at the wikipedia article, there is another incident, just like this one, that happened in 2024. The ousted education minister was the minister back then and no...
Ok so the problem is not leaked papers right? Problem is bad education system? Is that the demand to improve education system from the ousted minister. |
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atro_city
fedia.io
atro_city@fedia.io Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Ok so the problem is not leaked papers right? Problem is bad education system? Is that the demand to improve education system from the ousted minister. I had left India back to my home country in 2011, but my brother was still my parents in India. And he gave AIEEE and paper was leaked that year, I don't remember it being such a huge problem. I understand the fucked up education system, not the...
The leaked papers are the tip of the iceberg, the straw that broke the camel's back, the catalyst. It's representative of a broken system. Whether the cockroach movement will continue to exist, who knows. Their principal demand was the sacking of the education minister. They also want a better education system, but they are hoping the next education minister will do that for them. |
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AwesomeLowlander
sh.itjust.works
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-07-12 |
I am being kind and not assuming I know what they mean. I'm willing to explain the English if that's the problem. You're not being kind by assuming I want to insult them.
How would you explain the English when there's clearly an error there? We can only make a best guess as to the actual intended meaning. |
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AwesomeLowlander
sh.itjust.works
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-07-12 |
A lot to be fixed in the education system for sure. But how is leaked exam is failure of government?
The leaks have been going on for years, it's a systemic issue that the govt has ignored up until now. |
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atro_city
fedia.io
atro_city@fedia.io Joined: 2023-08-05 |
How would you explain the English when there's clearly an error there? We can only make a best guess as to the actual intended meaning.
Where is the error? |
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AwesomeLowlander
sh.itjust.works
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-07-12 |
Where is the error?
'Write the exam'. |
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Railcar8095
lemmy.world
Railcar8095@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
Where is the error?
I think only British say "to write an exam", for Americans and a lot of non English speakers "to take" is more common. |
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atro_city
fedia.io
atro_city@fedia.io Joined: 2023-08-05 |
'Write the exam'.
That's British: see the University of York using the expression. For the USAians out there, it means to "take" the exam. |
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atro_city
fedia.io
atro_city@fedia.io Joined: 2023-08-05 |
I think only British say "to write an exam", for Americans and a lot of non English speakers "to take" is more common. That creates confusion.
The University of York in the UK uses it to mean that the student is being assessed and writing answers to the questions posed in the exam. |
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AwesomeLowlander
sh.itjust.works
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-07-12 |
That's British: see the University of York using the expression. For the USAians out there, it means to "take" the exam.
TIL. My country uses British English but I've never heard that expression my entire life. |
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FiniteBanjo
feddit.online
FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineJoined: 2025-12-23 |
I got very confused about the reported time scale. "week-long protests", quoting the minister with "10 days". Pretty sure I've seen reporting on the cockroach movement and protests between two to six weeks ago. Later in the article the timespan gets mixed up. Sonam Wangchuk, the renowned Indian engineer and activist who had galvanised the movement as he went on a 26-day hunger strike, celebrate...
If not for the former minister saying as much I wouldn't really think you could attribute a change at the national level to a small group of thousands.
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Railcar8095
lemmy.world
Railcar8095@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
The University of York in the UK uses it to mean that the student is being assessed and writing answers to the questions posed in the exam.
Which is what I said... Do you have issues understanding English? |
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atro_city
fedia.io
atro_city@fedia.io Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Which is what I said... Do you have issues understanding English?
Wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Or did someone nibble on your butthole while you were asleep? Jerk off, or something, it'll help release that aggression you have. It isn't healthy, hun. |
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Railcar8095
lemmy.world
Railcar8095@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
Wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Or did someone nibble on your butthole while you were asleep? Jerk off, or something, it'll help release that aggression you have. It isn't healthy, hun.
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hun I'm neither Asian nor German, but maybe the dictionary in York has a different definition. |
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hancock
retrolemmy.com
hancock@retrolemmy.com Joined: 2025-07-03 |
Yes, because I'm not familiar with intricacies of Indian political systems. I have spent some time in India, I understand some but not all. It maybe obvious to you. If you live in India. It's not obvious to me. I'm happy to learn more. But if you don't want to/ or are not able to explain, how would I sympathize with you? I want to sympathize with the common man.
Apoligies. My patience is running thin from watching classmates and few close friends being absolute morron. Defending gov and saying things like its not the issue of leaders but just people who did it. Like actually one who did it. Now, how is gov involved? NTA is the org responsible for conducting examination for number of studies including NEET main examination issue of the protest. NTA is formed by gov and operates under it. Prior to current BJP gov it was common for ministers to resign over single failures in system. This protest was although mainly for examination leak but underlying theme is accountability from system and against corruption. I hope you get some idea. |
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zabadoh
ani.social
zabadoh@ani.social Joined: 2023-11-19 |
A lot to be fixed in the education system for sure. But how is leaked exam is failure of government?
The term "leak" is an understatement. Think more along the lines of "exam cheating scandal" for something like the SAT on steroids that's administered by the government. And that one exam dictates whether you get accepted to an elite medical school that can lift you and your family out of the poverty, that is most of India, if you're talented enough. But instead, the exam papers are sold to expensive coaching schools for the wealthy, leaving even those with the greatest talent without a chance. |
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faintwhenfree
lemmus.org
faintwhenfree@lemmus.org Joined: 2023-07-16 |
The term "leak" is an understatement. Think more along the lines of "exam cheating scandal" for something like the SAT on steroids that's administered by the government. And that one exam dictates whether you get accepted to an elite medical school that can lift you and your family out of the poverty, that is most of India, if you're talented enough. But instead, the exam papers are sold to exp...
I know what NEET exams are, I have spent some time in India. I know the importance of it as well and pressure students feel. I went back to my home country before completing high school. But My brother stayed behind and gave AIEEE in 2011, papers were leaked that year as well. I think you guys have a marketing problem. Highlighting too much on paper leaks, while From what I gather from other comments, problem is the system, not one leak or even leaks in general. Because papers leak all the time in all countries, including my home country. Criminals who do it should be caught and punished, and I haven't seen any claims or evidence that education minister was complicit. Anyway congratulations on having an incompetent minister out, but if your demand on reform of system is not made clear. There will be no meaningful change, just hydra changing heads. That's why I'm saying it's a marketing problem. |
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