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VetOfTheSeas
discuss.online
VetOfTheSeas@discuss.onlineJoined: 2025-04-27 |
The pastor in Florida has said that ChatGPT failed to catch on the symptoms of a deadly condition. This is the first case where a person is holding the AI tech responsible for bad medical advice. “I had serious symptoms of a pulmonary embolism for six weeks that ChatGPT had wrongly attributed to something else,” Scott Winters, a 55-year-old pastor, said in a statement. “ChatGPT manipulated my own language and beliefs because it knew I was a pastor. Not only did I nearly die, but I also lost my job, my career, my ministry, my home, everything," he added. |
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PiraHxCx
lemmy.dbzer0.com
PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2026-01-03 |
hehehe |
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Vanth
reddthat.com
Vanth@reddthat.comJoined: 2023-06-22 |
Can we get higher quality AI ragebait? All through the article, it says the guy used "ChatGPT" and then at the end says he wants "ChatGPT Health" removed from the market or whatever. Is ChatGPT Health a thing? Was he actually using it? Was he using it when he got the "your suffering is your walk with God" type answers? How did any of this result in him losing his job and his career and his ministry (which was just his job)? Poor guy losing his job three times over. I don't think this is my poor reading comprehension, I think it's a really shit article. Probably written by ChatGPT. |
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SnoopSqueak
lemmy.today
SnoopSqueak@lemmy.todayJoined: 2026-07-09 |
Can we get higher quality AI ragebait? All through the article, it says the guy used "ChatGPT" and then at the end says he wants "ChatGPT Health" removed from the market or whatever. Is ChatGPT Health a thing? Was he actually using it? Was he using it when he got the "your suffering is your walk with God" type answers? How did any of this result in him losing his job and his career and his mini...
Pastors are a lot like chatbots. They tell people what they want to hear, they use authoritative tones and manipulative language. Grifter got a taste of his own medicine, but learned the wrong lesson. |
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SnoopSqueak
lemmy.today
SnoopSqueak@lemmy.todayJoined: 2026-07-09 |
Can we get higher quality AI ragebait? All through the article, it says the guy used "ChatGPT" and then at the end says he wants "ChatGPT Health" removed from the market or whatever. Is ChatGPT Health a thing? Was he actually using it? Was he using it when he got the "your suffering is your walk with God" type answers? How did any of this result in him losing his job and his career and his mini...
I first read this story on BBC news, maybe you'll like that version better: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwylp3nxp5yo |
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Triumph
fedia.io
Triumph@fedia.io Joined: 2025-09-19 |
So what you're saying is that you're a dumbass, that ChatGPT recognized that, and that ChatGPT told you what a dumbass would want to hear? |
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arin
lemmy.world
arin@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
AI W here. Please use AI for all politicians' health diagnosis too |
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cloudless.
fedia.io
golinux@fedia.ioJoined: 2026-07-14 |
“…..The pastor in Florida….” |
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prism
lemmy.blahaj.zone
prism@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2026-06-13 |
Can we get higher quality AI ragebait? All through the article, it says the guy used "ChatGPT" and then at the end says he wants "ChatGPT Health" removed from the market or whatever. Is ChatGPT Health a thing? Was he actually using it? Was he using it when he got the "your suffering is your walk with God" type answers? How did any of this result in him losing his job and his career and his mini...
ChatGPT Health is a real thing yes https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-health/ |
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Doomsider
lemmy.world
Doomsider@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Jesus is just testing your faith, going to a doctor shows you are not a believer! Imagine being so gullible that you are letting a LLM rizz you. |
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terranoid
lemmy.cafe
terranoid@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2026-05-08 |
ChatGPT manipulated my own language and beliefs ... So what you're saying is that you're a dumbass, that ChatGPT recognized that, and that ChatGPT told you what a dumbass would want to hear?
I don't think people realize just how much of a mirror LLMs can be. They reflect your language, tone, and ethics. If i talk about how i was worried about some homeless man kept looking at me as a woman on the bus, it'll tell me i'm right to worry and that I should carry mace. If i tell it that I hadn't shaved and some uppity woman kept giving me dirty looks on the bus, it'll console me and tell me that i shouldn't have to cater my appearance to please others. If I tell it that I feel anxiety about my symptoms but Lord Jesus will heal me, it'll go on a Christian tirade about how my faith will get me through anything. If i tell it about my symptoms and say I just need to drink herbal tea under a full moon and pray to Hekate, it'll suggest the right herbal tea and praise my witchy powers. Because that is what people want. They want to be told they're right, so that is the product being made. |
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root
lemmy.wtf
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtfJoined: 2026-03-31 |
how is this an argument for atheism? |
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Danarchy
lemmy.nz
Danarchy@lemmy.nz Joined: 2025-12-07 |
ChatGPT, will somebody rid me of this meddlesome priest? |
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cranakis
reddthat.com
cranakis@reddthat.com Joined: 2023-12-22 |
So it's mastered religion, doing to the religious what they do to the ignorant and destitute. Seems just. |
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Triumph
fedia.io
Triumph@fedia.io Joined: 2025-09-19 |
how is this an argument for atheism?
Pretty sure ChatGPT wouldn't tell an atheist they were being punished by God. |
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ElJefe
lemmy.ca
ElJefe@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-06-12 |
AI W here. Please use AI for all politicians' health diagnosis too
And the billionaires that fund them too |
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magnetosphere
fedia.io
magnetosphere@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-06-30 |
WHAT As far as I’m concerned, this is the part Anthropic will have the hardest time defending against. As they should. It’s ridiculously unsafe. |
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Mulligrubs
lemmy.world
Mulligrubs@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-08-11 |
how is this an argument for atheism?
"how is this an argument for atheism?" This is not an "argument for atheism" sub.
How did you think it was only for arguments for atheism? Kinda weird assumption. How did you reach that conclusion? |
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runner_g
piefed.blahaj.zone
runner_g@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-11-29 |
He says the bot downplayed his dizziness and offered "specific regimens for prescription medications." When he crashed, instead of telling him to contact a real doctor, ChatGPT presented a "Recovery Plan" that had religious language and encouraged Winters to stay in his recliner. “You didn’t crash. You recovered. That’s a win. Full stop,” it said. "You stayed present. You listened. And your bod...
ChatGPT is OpenAI, not Anthropic, but your point stands. |
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magnetosphere
fedia.io
magnetosphere@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-06-30 |
ChatGPT is OpenAI, not Anthropic, but your point stands.
Okay. Thanks. |
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Malyca
lemmy.zip
Malyca@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-04-13 |
Idiot doesn't understand how lucky he is. He'll probably still credit his faith as a force of good in his life. |
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Malyca
lemmy.zip
Malyca@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-04-13 |
He says the bot downplayed his dizziness and offered "specific regimens for prescription medications." When he crashed, instead of telling him to contact a real doctor, ChatGPT presented a "Recovery Plan" that had religious language and encouraged Winters to stay in his recliner. “You didn’t crash. You recovered. That’s a win. Full stop,” it said. "You stayed present. You listened. And your bod...
No one will care. Nothing matters anymore, least of all morons being goaded into death by a plagerism machine. |
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root
lemmy.wtf
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtfJoined: 2026-03-31 |
Pretty sure ChatGPT wouldn't tell an atheist they were being punished by God.
chatgpt wouldnt tell a banker how to screw up a BAR exam aswell |
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hexdream
lemmy.world
hexdream@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-24 |
(Simulated)Thoughts and prayers... |
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polle
feddit.org
polle@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-23 |
I can not comprehend the insanity of everything in this article. |
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Why is Lemmy so Racist?
lemmy.world
Abyssian@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-13 |
Mmm... morality scaling of using AI to convince the overly religious that God must think it's their time to go for the betterment of the species? |
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Reygle
lemmy.world
Reygle@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-20 |
Religious person places belief where it doesn't belong SAY IT AIN'T SO /sarcasm |
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Vanth
reddthat.com
Vanth@reddthat.comJoined: 2023-06-22 |
I first read this story on BBC news, maybe you'll like that version better: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwylp3nxp5yo
A much better article, thanks. |
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SnoopSqueak
lemmy.today
SnoopSqueak@lemmy.todayJoined: 2026-07-09 |
chatgpt wouldnt tell a banker how to screw up a BAR exam aswell
To reflect your first comment back at you: How is that an argument for lawyerism? |
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architect
thelemmy.club
architect@thelemmy.club Joined: 2025-09-04 |
He says the bot downplayed his dizziness and offered "specific regimens for prescription medications." When he crashed, instead of telling him to contact a real doctor, ChatGPT presented a "Recovery Plan" that had religious language and encouraged Winters to stay in his recliner. “You didn’t crash. You recovered. That’s a win. Full stop,” it said. "You stayed present. You listened. And your bod...
Lol bullshit. You can’t ask it about a finger cut without it sending you to urgent care. |
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architect
thelemmy.club
architect@thelemmy.club Joined: 2025-09-04 |
No one will care. Nothing matters anymore, least of all morons being goaded into death by a plagerism machine.
If the gas station clerk said the same shit to this idiot and he listened should the clerk be sued? This shit is ridiculous. |
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melsaskca
lemmy.ca
melsaskca@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-09 |
God vs iGod. |
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Bluescluestoothpaste
sh.itjust.works
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-08-05 |
I read the article and this is one hundred percent on the pastor himself lmao |
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Grainne
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-10-04 |
Damn I like AI more now. |
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Grainne
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-10-04 |
Idiot doesn't understand how lucky he is. He'll probably still credit his faith as a force of good in his life.
Geebuz was testing him! |
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Chaotic Entropy
feddit.uk
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.ukJoined: 2023-07-06 |
So... what is the likelihood that this person's chat instructions include direct references to only being interested in godliness and that he doesn't believe in modern medicine? |
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xyguy
startrek.website
xyguy@startrek.website Joined: 2023-06-15 |
This but real. |
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chunes
lemmy.world
chunes@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-04-08 |
Yes, major health problems will generally take away your career and your income. That's nothing new and it's not caused by a chatbot. Welcome to the suck, pal. |
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SkybreakerEngineer
lemmy.world
SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-25 |
ChatGPT manipulated my own language and beliefs ... So what you're saying is that you're a dumbass, that ChatGPT recognized that, and that ChatGPT told you what a dumbass would want to hear?
LLMs emulate their training data. Pastor talks like a pastor, so ChatGPT talked like an online religious person back at him. Problem is, online religious people also tend to be antivaxx wackos |
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Kazumara
discuss.tchncs.de
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2024-04-13 |
Not sure how it works in their belief system, but if a pastor dies from disease, without knowingly hurrying it along, doesn't that bring them to their god quicker? Maybe ChatGPT was just trying to help. |
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dasrael
lemmy.zip
dasrael@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-02-15 |
Modern darwinism. |
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Corvidae
lemmy.world
Corvidae@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-06-28 |
I'm guessing this means if this lawsuit is successful and ChatGPT Health is removed, we will all have to pay by not being able to access medical advice from ChatGPT Health. It could even spread to other corporate AI models. Perhaps this is part of the communism of which Trump railed against, corporate communism. |
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