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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#52 · Quote Reply

I'm sure that admin is Admiral Patrick's alt. There are signs that they share the same sentiment as him. I kind of knew he wasn't going to just leave the Fediverse entirely.

Based on mod log wonder if they have something like world that hides certain actions. A lot of people got banned from their comm after it was locked by an account that isn't one of the 3 mods

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#53 · Quote Reply

Didn't this have something to do with the tesseract drama? I think that guy has it out for the anarchists.

As db0 mentioned, the defedederation happened after they banned an account claiming to be the dev from that instance

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Mac mander.xyz Mac@mander.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-14
#54 · Quote Reply

db0 explicitly allows hosting discussions about hurting people Huh? Since when? Lol. Don’t think DB0 as a whole ever allowed such a thing. We as an instance are heavily against hurting others (I mean we are against racism, hatred, Zionism, Nazism… you name it). The discussion of Luigi is one that’s is actually needed to be had. The guy did something wrong, yes. But he had all the reasons for it...

Luigi has not been convicted of a crime.

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gedfromgont piefed.ca gedfromgont@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-05-12
#55 · Quote Reply

Startrek.website was the first instance I chose years ago coming from Reddit.

I abandoned it because I noticed mods (or admins?) deleting seemingly random stuff and opinions without much explanation. Took me a while to catch it because I remembered seeing this one post and then later in the day it was just gone, no reference to anything in the modlog.

Obviously just anecdotal evidence and my own subjective experience, but I had Startrek.website on my personal blocklist ever since. I see now that wasn't transferred when I made this account on Piefed, ah well, here we go again.

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Mystic Mushroom [Ze/Zir] lemmy.dbzer0.com MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-04-03
#56 · Quote Reply

The drama just never ends does it...

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oceanwaveswoosh lemmy.world oceanwaveswoosh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-16
#57 · Quote Reply

The drama just never ends does it...
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oceanwaveswoosh lemmy.world oceanwaveswoosh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-16
#58 · Quote Reply

Scratch a liberal, and a fascist bleeds. And my family has a history of bashing fascists. I'm just partaking in my family tradition.
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oceanwaveswoosh lemmy.world oceanwaveswoosh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-16
#59 · Quote Reply

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Mystic Mushroom [Ze/Zir] lemmy.dbzer0.com MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-04-03
#60 · (edited) Quote Reply

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In short an entitled frontend developer decided to try censoring a large portion of Lemmy in the app he made. He attempted to hide it but got caught when he blocked our instance and @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com our admin investigated and discovered it. The second he went public about it people were outraged about it, as they should be. What he did is a major overstep on his part to try to dictate moderation on servers he has no control over.

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Hildegard (she/her) lemmy.blahaj.zone hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-12-07
#61 · Quote Reply

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Tesseract was a piece of trojan horse malware that purported to be an alternate Lemmy interface. It added a different UI and some features to the web interface of instances that were well liked. However, its true purpose was to secretly add a block list to instances that run it. It blocked instances, and URLs that the developer personally disliked, without telling anyone that it was doing it.

This drama started when the developer added dbz0 and blahaj to the blocklist, and the dbz0 admins noticed it and blew the whistle.

This caused Lemmy users to actually read the source code, and they found much more, like a second doubly secret blacklist that tesseract download from the developer's server at runtime. That list blocked many prominent Lemmy users individually, so naturally many of them took that as a badge of honor and posted about being on the list.

The developer has continued his public crash out. He's done many things, like defending his actions using alt accounts, deleting the github to stop nob-malware forks, and posting lengthy supervillian type monologues about why he did it. The most recent one, he claimed to be leaving the fediverse, and posted it to his own website with a script to make any readers DDOS the dbz0 instance as revenge for breaking the story.

He's now using his own instance to defederate dbz0 as a continuation of his crashout to get revenge or something. He said he's left but no probably not.

That's about where this whole situation stands. Hope this helps.

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Hildegard (she/her) lemmy.blahaj.zone hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-12-07
#62 · Quote Reply

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It takes time to write things chill.

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oceanwaveswoosh lemmy.world oceanwaveswoosh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-16
#63 · Quote Reply

In short an entitled frontend developer decided to try censoring a large portion of Lemmy in the app he made. He attempted to hide it but got caught when he blocked our instance and @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com our admin investigated and discovered it. The second he went public about it people were outraged about it, as they should be. What he did is a major overstep on his part to try to dictate mode...
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AwesomeLowlander sh.itjust.works AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-07-12
#64 · Quote Reply

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https://sh.itjust.works/post/63880645

The dev in question is part of the admin team for the startrek.website instance, an instance that has historically made some very... questionable decisions.

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oceanwaveswoosh lemmy.world oceanwaveswoosh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-16
#65 · Quote Reply

https://sh.itjust.works/post/63880645 The dev in question is part of the admin team for the startrek.website instance, an instance that has historically made some very... questionable decisions.
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Mystic Mushroom [Ze/Zir] lemmy.dbzer0.com MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-04-03
#66 · Quote Reply

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He doesn't just want to curate his own community. He wants to censor stuff for everyone else, even on servers which he has no authority to do so. That's why he tried to hide the changes, including obfuscating the instance block function to say the server isn't compatible.

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oceanwaveswoosh lemmy.world oceanwaveswoosh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-16
#67 · Quote Reply

He doesn't just want to curate his own community. He wants to censor stuff for everyone else, even on servers which he has no authority to do so. That's why he tried to hide the changes, including obfuscating the instance block function to say the server isn't compatible.
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AwesomeLowlander sh.itjust.works AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-07-12
#68 · Quote Reply

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Pushing his ideology onto others who hadn't agreed to it. Fahrenheit 451, lemmy style.

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oceanwaveswoosh lemmy.world oceanwaveswoosh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-16
#69 · Quote Reply

Pushing his ideology onto others who hadn't agreed to it. Fahrenheit 451, lemmy style.
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Senal programming.dev Senal@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-08-08
#70 · Quote Reply

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If their parting message is to be believed it's because they are the last bastion of sanity.

Can't link to the original because they added a script that ddos'd an instance they don't like...you know...like a well adjusted saviour would do.

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AwesomeLowlander sh.itjust.works AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-07-12
#71 · (edited) Quote Reply

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That's the irony, a lot of people noted that if he had only been upfront about it, he'd probably have gotten some level of adoption. Instead he burned his bridges with the entire fediverse.

He did have his own instance with his own blocklist running. Nobody realised quite how extensive the list was at the time. Didn't have many users though, probably because the place was a barren wasteland after being filtered through all his blocks. That wasn't good enough for him.

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wrekone lemmy.dbzer0.com wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-13
#72 · Quote Reply

Tesseract was a piece of trojan horse malware that purported to be an alternate Lemmy interface. It added a different UI and some features to the web interface of instances that were well liked. However, its true purpose was to secretly add a block list to instances that run it. It blocked instances, and URLs that the developer personally disliked, without telling anyone that it was doing it. T...

That's nuckin futs. Thanks for the breakdown.

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Wobble lemmy.dbzer0.com Wobble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-02-11
#73 · Quote Reply

Yes. db0 posted about the blocklist after updating Tesseract for the dbzero instance, basically putting it on blast (as they should have). The dev also turned their home page into a ddos enabler, using visitor browsers to send 2000 requests to the dbzero instance. Odds are good that this same person was also running the st.w instance.

That is unhinged behaviour and that sounds explicitly malicious and WE should defederate from hostile instances that target our infrastructure.

I'm sure DDOSes are a crime in the jurisdiction they are in and in whatever value system they respect.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#74 · (edited) Quote Reply

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fascists always love to use deception, because hatred is well liked by most people.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#75 · Quote Reply

That's the irony, a lot of people noted that if he had only been upfront about it, he'd probably have gotten some level of adoption. Instead he burned his bridges with the entire fediverse. He did have his own instance with his own blocklist running. Nobody realised quite how extensive the list was at the time. Didn't have many users though, probably because the place was a barren wasteland aft...

i dont think he will get adoption if he i unilaterally blocking people, a better way if had gave everyone an option to block instances people themselves as a feature.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#76 · (edited) Quote Reply

Startrek.website was the first instance I chose years ago coming from Reddit. I abandoned it because I noticed mods (or admins?) deleting seemingly random stuff and opinions without much explanation. Took me a while to catch it because I remembered seeing this one post and then later in the day it was just gone, no reference to anything in the modlog. Obviously just anecdotal evidence and my ow...

seems like startek.website is a trap, to get people to the instance, and started censoring to isolate people, does it have anything to do with TREK at all.?

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#77 · Quote Reply

I knew the story wouldn't end with him taking down his own instance. Either it was going to be brought back or he had another one.

he will likely make another one once the news blows over.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#78 · Quote Reply

the tesseract guy was also an admin on startrek.website and he has it out for anyone left of him like the piefed creator does.

he seems like the main ADMIN for it.

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fervent_apathy anarchist.nexus fervent_apathy@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2026-05-07
#79 · Quote Reply

he will likely make another one once the news blows over.

Can't wait for captainSpongebob@dubuee.org to make an appearance. /s

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fervent_apathy anarchist.nexus fervent_apathy@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2026-05-07
#80 · Quote Reply

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He ironically claimed it was to allow other people to be seen/heard "through the noise", and to "save the fediverse" so I'd say it's more than likely.

All of which is fine to do from an administered back end... Like dubvee for example (the instance he ran). But I guess that wasn't good enough, and he felt his will needed to be enforced on other instances also.

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apotheotic (she/her) beehaw.org apotheotic@beehaw.org
Joined: 2023-07-11
#81 · Quote Reply

db0 explicitly allows hosting discussions about hurting people I mean if discussing how to defend yourself from capitalist / fasch / nazi opression counts as "hurting people", I guess we could take that as a badge of honour? We don't owe to our oppressors to put their welfare above ours!

I read this as "defend yourself from capitalist / French / Nazi oppression" and it was fucking hilarious. Sorry to sidetrack.

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#82 · Quote Reply

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Because if they knew it'd become as popular as the instance they were running. So no one would be using it.

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AbidanYre lemmy.world AbidanYre@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#83 · Quote Reply

he will likely make another one once the news blows over.

He already rage quit the fediverse once like a year ago.

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eldavi lemmy.ml eldavi@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-18
#84 · Quote Reply

he seems like the main ADMIN for it.

i get banned from communities without ever participating in them, so i wouldn't know. lol

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A_be_seedy beehaw.org A_be_seedy@beehaw.org
Joined: 2026-06-16
#85 · Quote Reply

db0 explicitly allows hosting discussions about hurting people I mean if discussing how to defend yourself from capitalist / fasch / nazi opression counts as "hurting people", I guess we could take that as a badge of honour? We don't owe to our oppressors to put their welfare above ours!

Civilized society can't exist with people that oppose civilized society, such as Nazis.

As such, the rules of civilized punishment in civilized society should not apply to people that fundamentally oppose civilized society.

When people fundamentally opposing civilized society are protected by civilized society then they become part of civilized society, thus validating their beliefs and leading to the decay of civilized society.

No violence absolutism is Nazism.

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DoucheBagMcSwag lemmy.dbzer0.com DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-01
#86 · (edited) Quote Reply

"Hurting people"

What kind of people? 👀

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Draconic NEO lemmy.dbzer0.com Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-14
#87 · Quote Reply

He already rage quit the fediverse once like a year ago.

I think it's clear that he needs the fediverse more than it needs him.

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Draconic NEO lemmy.dbzer0.com Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-14
#88 · Quote Reply

"Hurting people" What kind of people? 👀

Fascists

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Eugene V. Debs' Ghost lemmy.dbzer0.com eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-10-10
#89 · Quote Reply

I think it's clear that he needs the fediverse more than it needs him.

Always amazing when someone says "I'm leaving, I can't stand this place" and just stays. I wonder why they do it. Hoping someone says don't go?

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Pandantic [they/them] midwest.social Pandantic@midwest.social
Joined: 2023-06-28
#90 · Quote Reply

I ranted about this in another thread some, but I’m with startrek.website here. I almost switched to db0 when I first found Lemmy.world and joined it; you guys seemed, ideologically, closest to me. I loved the vibe. Communities about Anarchism, Generative AI, Copylefts, Neurodivergence, Filesharing, and Free Software. (And Math!) Follow the Anarchist Code of Conduct and honor the Disengage Rule...

Do you think the US is a fascist/imperial state? Is your solution to the problems with our world to vote the fascists out?

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Venia Silente lemmy.dbzer0.com veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-09
#91 · Quote Reply

I read this as "defend yourself from capitalist / French / Nazi oppression" and it was fucking hilarious. Sorry to sidetrack.

Now that would be a day! XD

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Draconic NEO lemmy.dbzer0.com Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-14
#92 · Quote Reply

Always amazing when someone says "I'm leaving, I can't stand this place" and just stays. I wonder why they do it. Hoping someone says don't go?

Probably attention or an attempt at virtue signaling.

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Eugene V. Debs' Ghost lemmy.dbzer0.com eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-10-10
#93 · Quote Reply

Probably attention or an attempt at virtue signaling.

Right wingers often project, makes sense.

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DoucheBagMcSwag lemmy.dbzer0.com DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-01
#94 · Quote Reply

Fascists

Works for me

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#95 · Quote Reply

I think it's clear that he needs the fediverse more than it needs him.

he seems addicted to having his ego stroked.

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Eugene V. Debs' Ghost lemmy.dbzer0.com eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-10-10
#96 · Quote Reply

I'm just citing my own personal observations interacting with the db0 community. The calls for violance and death were not subtle. It has little to do with whatever happened to tesseract; I noticed this trend before that, but all that controversy just bubbled it to the top of my conscious (as it seems to have with that startrek community). Curiously, you’re doing it with the exact same language...

2 days later while you've been active, where's the evidence?

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T156 lemmy.world T156@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#97 · Quote Reply

seems like startek.website is a trap, to get people to the instance, and started censoring to isolate people, does it have anything to do with TREK at all.?

It's rather a bit dead these days, but during the days of the API shutdown, and for a little bit after, it was basically meant to be the Lemmy alternative to the Reddit Star Trek communities.

Unfortunately, it never really got enough traction to do very much at all.

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Venia Silente lemmy.dbzer0.com veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-09
#98 · Quote Reply

It is always disappointing. Condoning violence is never acceptable. Unfortunately for us, news after new after news article, we see those who protest peaceful through speech have senseless violence imposed on them. They did not ask to be murdered. The ones that asked, have 24/7 news coverage. But it's okay because they say "it's concerning". So now that some guy had enough and imposes justice t...

Condoning violence is never acceptable

Tell that to the 210-something States of the World that have constitutional, legal, standing armies.

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