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They have guns up the wazoo to ensure no tyrant will ever rule them, and a tyrant rules them.

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They have guns up the wazoo to ensure no tyrant will ever rule them, and a tyrant rules them.
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Theoretically that's what the 2A guns are meant to be for...

But doesn't really work out that way when the adversary is your own Government, who has access to very arguably the best armed police force and military in the world, and is more than willing to turn those on you.

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lyralycan sh.itjust.works lyralycan@sh.itjust.works
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I played the storyline for Qube recently (10th Anniversary edition), and there was a hook that was supposed to be sad, but instead hit me as horribly American, plus a dash of victim blaming.

::: spoiler Spoiler
"So, I want you to know, I’m only reading this because you wrote it to yourself.

"It was three PM on a Sunday. You were upstairs at home. A teenage boy broke into your house. He thought you were away on vacation. You went downstairs with your gun. You shot him in your living room. Only he wasn’t trying to rob you. He was passing by and saw a fire in your kitchen. He broke in to try and put it out. He was young and stupid and probably should have thought of a better solution. But you assumed the worst. You assumed the very worst and you shot him. He was paralyzed from the neck down. He died seven years later, alone, at night, in Penrose-St. Francis Hospital…"

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#6 · (edited) Quote Reply

They have guns up the wazoo to ensure no tyrant will ever rule them, and a tyrant rules them.

There's a DLC for Assassin's Creed III called The Tyranny of King Washington, exploring an alternate reality with a corrupt president. Not so wild a theory now

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I played the storyline for Qube recently (10th Anniversary edition), and there was a hook that was supposed to be sad, but instead hit me as horribly American, plus a dash of victim blaming. ::: spoiler Spoiler "So, I want you to know, I’m only reading this because you wrote it to yourself. "It was three PM on a Sunday. You were upstairs at home. A teenage boy broke into your house. He thought ...

I had no idea qube had a concrete plotline, as far as I ever saw, you are immediately thrusted into the puzzles.

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Kirp123 lemmy.world Kirp123@lemmy.world
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I played the storyline for Qube recently (10th Anniversary edition), and there was a hook that was supposed to be sad, but instead hit me as horribly American, plus a dash of victim blaming. ::: spoiler Spoiler "So, I want you to know, I’m only reading this because you wrote it to yourself. "It was three PM on a Sunday. You were upstairs at home. A teenage boy broke into your house. He thought ...

You mean like that Japanese kid that knocked on the wrong door and got shot? The guy who shot him was acquitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Yoshihiro_Hattori

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notsosure sh.itjust.works notsosure@sh.itjust.works
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Can you give examples of such cases? Really important once?

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#10 · (edited) Quote Reply

Can you give examples of such cases? Really important once?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CIA_controversies

Fun fact: MKUltra produced the Unabomber

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Signtist bookwyr.me Signtist@bookwyr.me
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They have guns up the wazoo to ensure no tyrant will ever rule them, and a tyrant rules them.

All they had to do was teach them that tyranny looks like a bunch of brown people having jobs.

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urushitan 漆たん kakera.kintsugi.moe urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe
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Press releases before things are declassified: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-e46xdcUo

The declassified documents: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCT80HJWQ2A

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
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Can you give examples of such cases? Really important once?

There are so many, but one of the biggest is Project MK Ultra. They literally dosed people with LSD (unknowingly to the patient) and various other terrifying methods to try to figure out different ways of interrogation through human experimentation.

Project MKUltra began in 1953 and was halted in 1972.[3][4] MKUltra used numerous methods to manipulate its subjects' mental states and brain functions, such as the covert administration of high doses of psychoactive drugs (especially LSD) and other chemicals without the subjects' consent. Additionally, other methods beyond chemical compounds were used, including electroshocks,[5] hypnosis,[6][7] sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse, and other forms of torture.[8][9]

Source

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#14 · (edited) Quote Reply

They have guns up the wazoo to ensure no tyrant will ever rule them, and a tyrant rules them.

And the people yelling “come and take it” while waving “don’t tread on me” flags voted the tyrants in.

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Theoretically that's what the 2A guns are meant to be for... But doesn't really work out that way when the adversary is your own Government, who has access to very arguably the best armed police force and military in the world, and is more than willing to turn those on you.

The reason it doesn't work out that way is because we aren't organized. Yeah, sure, a lot of Americans are armed, but they're armed and alone. The intention behind the second amendment was that groups of citizens would form their own local militias and effectively be a distributed standing army ready to defend their liberty at a moment's notice, but the pervasive culture of individualism has twisted the second amendment into something else.

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sunbrrnslapper lemmy.world sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world
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My favorite weird thing about American culture is that it is so aggressive. Aggressive food (PopTarts, Big Gulps, etc), aggressive games (football), aggressive national anthem (literally about war), and so on. We are an oddly aggressive people.

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hOrni lemmy.world hOrni@lemmy.world
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Yeah. That's the weird thing.

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Can you give examples of such cases? Really important once?

vaguely waves around pointing at everything.

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The reason it doesn't work out that way is because we aren't organized. Yeah, sure, a lot of Americans are armed, but they're armed and alone. The intention behind the second amendment was that groups of citizens would form their own local militias and effectively be a distributed standing army ready to defend their liberty at a moment's notice, but the pervasive culture of individualism has tw...

Yeah, but they hunt down and destroy militia groups when we try to do that.

At least any of the ones that aren't Nazis. In the past they hunted those down too, but we let the foxes into the hen house so now they get to stay.

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xylogx lemmy.world xylogx@lemmy.world
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My daughter sent me a TikTok about the government using counterintelligence techniques against left wing groups. I sent her the wikipedia page on Cointellpro with the comment “Sadly this is not new”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

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Codpiece feddit.uk Codpiece@feddit.uk
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When you’re watching adverts and a snippet of a tv show interrupts you.

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Smaile lemmy.ca Smaile@lemmy.ca
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americans are all talk no balls, its why they spend so much on military, they feel insecure without the biggest guns possible and still lose wars. its pathetic.

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Can you give examples of such cases? Really important once?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study

A study on black men with syphilis, while hiding that fact and leaving them untreated.

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Theoretically that's what the 2A guns are meant to be for... But doesn't really work out that way when the adversary is your own Government, who has access to very arguably the best armed police force and military in the world, and is more than willing to turn those on you.

Theoretically the 2A is for a big well organised militia to oppose outside powers and to ensure the US doesn't need a big standing army

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whaleross lemmy.world whaleross@lemmy.world
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My favorite weird thing about American culture is that it is so aggressive. Aggressive food (PopTarts, Big Gulps, etc), aggressive games (football), aggressive national anthem (literally about war), and so on. We are an oddly aggressive people.

Careful, that kind of talk may get you beaten up.

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Careful, that kind of talk may get you beaten up.

Shot, man, shot.

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0x0 lemmy.zip 0x0@lemmy.zip
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Theoretically that's what the 2A guns are meant to be for... But doesn't really work out that way when the adversary is your own Government, who has access to very arguably the best armed police force and military in the world, and is more than willing to turn those on you.

I'll just leave these here, in order or relevance:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BxvxbZGjlv4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wNtxtuQxUz8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QbXTDuwSVkk

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#28 · (edited) Quote Reply

Can you give examples of such cases? Really important once?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

Kind of the reason Iran is so terrible now

(And tons of other countries have similar stories)

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#29 · (edited) Quote Reply

My favorite weird thing about American culture is that it is so aggressive. Aggressive food (PopTarts, Big Gulps, etc), aggressive games (football), aggressive national anthem (literally about war), and so on. We are an oddly aggressive people.

Pop tarts are aggressive..?

Regarding the national anthem, you should look up a translation of the French national anthem. And it probably isn't the most metal/aggressive national anthem out there, since it's one of the very few I even know.

Edit: I couldn't help but add this snippet

Grab your weapons, citizens!
Form your battalions!
Let us march! Let us march!
May impure blood
Water our fields!

Full lyric translation: https://www.thoughtco.com/la-marseillaise-frances-national-anthem-4080565

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Ignotum lemmy.world ignotum@lemmy.world
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#30 · Quote Reply

They have guns up the wazoo to ensure no tyrant will ever rule them, and a tyrant rules them.

"don't tread on me" in the streets, "please step on me daddy trump" in the sheets

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Can you give examples of such cases? Really important once?

The government brought crack into the inner cities to disrupt black neighborhoods

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There are so many, but one of the biggest is Project MK Ultra. They literally dosed people with LSD (unknowingly to the patient) and various other terrifying methods to try to figure out different ways of interrogation through human experimentation. Project MKUltra began in 1953 and was halted in 1972.[3][4] MKUltra used numerous methods to manipulate its subjects' mental states and brain funct...

And as best I understand it, didn't even use proper scientific method to even make their study replicate to prove what they were doing worked to any extent.

Which isn't the worst part at all, but just shoves it waaaaaaaay further down the torture side and removes any scientific use at all.

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
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#33 · (edited) Quote Reply

And as best I understand it, didn't even use proper scientific method to even make their study replicate to prove what they were doing worked to any extent. Which isn't the worst part at all, but just shoves it waaaaaaaay further down the torture side and removes any scientific use at all.

They learned from the Nazis that way.

I think about the guy who killed himself after the CIA, his employer, dosed him with LSD without him knowing pretty often.

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Oni_eyes sh.itjust.works Oni_eyes@sh.itjust.works
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They learned from the Nazis that way. I think about the guy who killed himself after the CIA, his employer, dosed him with LSD without him knowing pretty often.

And the Japanese

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
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#35 · Quote Reply

And the Japanese

Yep! Though Project MK Ultra was founded on Nazi experiments specifically:

During the early 1940s, Nazi scientists working in the concentration camps of Auschwitz and Dachau during World War II conducted interrogation experiments on human subjects. Substances such as barbiturates, morphine derivatives, and hallucinogens such as mescaline were employed in experiments conducted on Polish, Russian, Ukrainian, Jewish, and other prisoners of war.[22] These experiments aimed to develop a truth serum which would, in the words of one laboratory assistant to Dachau scientist Kurt Plötner, "eliminate the will of the person examined."[22] American historian Stephen Kinzer said that the CIA project was a continuation of these earlier Nazi experiments, as evidenced by MKUltra's use of mescaline on unwitting subjects, replicating previous Nazi experiments conducted at Dachau.[23] Numerous Nazi scientists would be employed by the United States government after the war as part of Operation Paperclip, with some figures such as Kurt Blome becoming involved in MKUltra.[24]

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#36 · Quote Reply

Yep! Though Project MK Ultra was founded on Nazi experiments specifically: During the early 1940s, Nazi scientists working in the concentration camps of Auschwitz and Dachau during World War II conducted interrogation experiments on human subjects. Substances such as barbiturates, morphine derivatives, and hallucinogens such as mescaline were employed in experiments conducted on Polish, Russian...

Oh I thought you were referring to the whole "not reproducible and not following basic scientific method" part

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velma sh.itjust.works velma@sh.itjust.works
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#37 · (edited) Quote Reply

Oh I thought you were referring to the whole "not reproducible and not following basic scientific method" part

I am. Neither the CIA nor the Nazis followed the basic scientific method and the results are not reproducible. They were really just torturing people and using their goal of developing a "truth serum" as justification.

Japan had a similar unit that was torturing people under "scientific advancement".

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Can you give examples of such cases? Really important once?

They killed MLK Jr. Not sure if they've fully admitted it yet.

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#39 · Quote Reply

They killed MLK Jr. Not sure if they've fully admitted it yet.

Who is “they”?

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ChickenLadyLovesLife lemmy.world ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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I have a co-worker who fought in Vietnam. I showed him the thing about the Pentagon straight up admitting that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was bullshit, but he refused to accept it. Still feels that we had to fight that war because if we had allowed the communists to win, it would have meant that communism would have taken over the world ... even though we actually did lose that war.

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And the people yelling “come and take it” while waving “don’t tread on me” flags voted the tyrants in.

I guess it wasn't a threat after all and they were just shouting out their kink

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#42 · (edited) Quote Reply

My daughter sent me a TikTok about the government using counterintelligence techniques against left wing groups. I sent her the wikipedia page on Cointellpro with the comment “Sadly this is not new” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

Nothing about this is new. The authoritarianism, the concentration camps, the dispossessions, the witch-hunt of immigrants and people with a darker skin, the fearmongering, the robber baron oligarchs. We’ve all been here before. And not just once.

The truly astonishing cultural trait is that Americans keep on living in lalaland and pretend it isn’t happening, it never happened, and it COULD never happen cuz yada yada the Constitution and We The People and the second amendment.

Americans are one shortsighted bunch willing to swallow any and all propaganda.

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#43 · (edited) Quote Reply

My daughter sent me a TikTok about the government using counterintelligence techniques against left wing groups. I sent her the wikipedia page on Cointellpro with the comment “Sadly this is not new” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

I think what made COINTELPRO stand out was how weird it was (experiments with LSD, etc.)

ETA: Never mind, I think I'm getting that confused with MKUltra.

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Who is “they”?

J Edgar Hoover's FBI afair

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There's a DLC for Assassin's Creed III called The Tyranny of King Washington, exploring an alternate reality with a corrupt president. Not so wild a theory now

I encourage you to read up on prior presidents if you think Trump is some kind of anomaly.

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#46 · (edited) Quote Reply

You mean like that Japanese kid that knocked on the wrong door and got shot? The guy who shot him was acquitted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Yoshihiro_Hattori

That was infuriating the whole way through. I don’t exactly want to recommend reading further, because it’s just a depressing story all around, but this was well written and provided the piece of information I was shamefully burning with curiosity about

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#47 · Quote Reply

My favorite weird thing about American culture is that it is so aggressive. Aggressive food (PopTarts, Big Gulps, etc), aggressive games (football), aggressive national anthem (literally about war), and so on. We are an oddly aggressive people.

I believe all anthema are about war. Mexico's about the need to fight agains a foreign enemy invasion...

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zarkanian sh.itjust.works zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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#48 · Quote Reply

The reason it doesn't work out that way is because we aren't organized. Yeah, sure, a lot of Americans are armed, but they're armed and alone. The intention behind the second amendment was that groups of citizens would form their own local militias and effectively be a distributed standing army ready to defend their liberty at a moment's notice, but the pervasive culture of individualism has tw...

You're mistaken. There are armed militias. And they all support Trump.

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zarkanian sh.itjust.works zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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#49 · Quote Reply

Yeah, but they hunt down and destroy militia groups when we try to do that. At least any of the ones that aren't Nazis. In the past they hunted those down too, but we let the foxes into the hen house so now they get to stay.

The foxes were already in the henhouse, because they were the ones who built the henhouse in the first place.

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zarkanian sh.itjust.works zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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#50 · Quote Reply

Theoretically the 2A is for a big well organised militia to oppose outside powers and to ensure the US doesn't need a big standing army

Yes, but most people ignore that part of the amendment.

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zarkanian sh.itjust.works zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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They killed MLK Jr. Not sure if they've fully admitted it yet.

I think I would've heard about that lol

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