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BasedMaquisEddington
lemmy.dbzer0.com
BasedMaquisEddington@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-07-29 |
I like to download a rare book now and then, but if practical I’d like to be safer about it. |
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Grumpy
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Grumpy@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-07-30 |
Im using Tor for that. |
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bridgeenjoyer
sh.itjust.works
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-06 |
I use a VPN and a private DNS . i feel like thats plenty and I dont have any DNS leaks from my tests. I wouldn't really trust mozzilla VPN a whole bunch but its probably fine. A real VPN provider is cheap, I'd get one. Ivpn or icevpn are good. |
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darcmage
lemmy.dbzer0.com
darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-01-04 |
I've never used a vpn for libgen but I understand the need to feel safe and that depends on your threat model. What are the realistic consequences of not using a vpn with libgen for you and does using a vpn mitigate them? |
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ProbablyUnwise
anarchist.nexus
ProbablyUnwise@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2026-07-09 |
MAM+VPN is a good way |
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BasedMaquisEddington
lemmy.dbzer0.com
BasedMaquisEddington@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-07-29 |
I've never used a vpn for libgen but I understand the need to feel safe and that depends on your threat model. What are the realistic consequences of not using a vpn with libgen for you and does using a vpn mitigate them?
I guess my threat model is my ISP snitching on me. Realistic consequences? Probably none, this is more of about trying to keep it that way and having peace of mind I guess. |
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hexagonwin
lemmy.today
hexagonwin@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-02-07 |
Im using Tor for that.
raw tor could cause more harm because its easily detectable by isp. i recommend using tor over vpn if living in a hostile state |
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Grumpy
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Grumpy@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-07-30 |
raw tor could cause more harm because its easily detectable by isp. i recommend using tor over vpn if living in a hostile state
If you want to be extra secure you could use a VPN before Tor. But using a VPN would make you suspicious as well. They could force the VPN provider to track your future connections over their VPN. I assume it's not that easy to trace your connections if your using tor. Best is to install Tails on a USB Stick, boot it on a public computer over public WiFi while being completely covered with no mobile devices on yourself. But let's be serious. The given thread model involved in downloading a book, the risk of drawing the attention of the authorities is probably very low. :) |
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darcmage
lemmy.dbzer0.com
darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-01-04 |
I guess my threat model is my ISP snitching on me. Realistic consequences? Probably none, this is more of about trying to keep it that way and having peace of mind I guess.
In that case, any vpn should suffice. |
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bzLem0n
lemmy.ca
bzLem0n@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
I've only ever used IRC to find ebooks and never worried about a VPN. Check #ebooks on IRChighway or Undernet. |
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nixFREAK
sopuli.xyz
nixfreak@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2023-06-05 |
I've only ever used IRC to find ebooks and never worried about a VPN. Check #ebooks on IRChighway or Undernet.
Or xdcc search |
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rnercle
sh.itjust.works
merde@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-27 |
raw tor could cause more harm because its easily detectable by isp. i recommend using tor over vpn if living in a hostile state
using tor is not illegal and what you do with tor is not readable to your isp. using tor to make your libgen visit unreadable to your isp would work |
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Whostosay
sh.itjust.works
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-07-16 |
using tor is not illegal and what you do with tor is not readable to your isp. using tor to make your libgen visit unreadable to your isp would work
Where you live |
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lattrommi
lemmy.ml
lattrommi@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-09 |
I'm not understanding the risk, are you downloading at work or on a school network? is the book content illegal where you live? worried about malware maybe? safe from whom/what is what i'm asking |
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DdCno1
beehaw.org
DdCno1@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-09 |
I've only ever used IRC to find ebooks and never worried about a VPN. Check #ebooks on IRChighway or Undernet.
Wow, that's oldschool. I haven't even thought about IRC for at least 15 years. How actively is this still being used in general? |
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BasedMaquisEddington
lemmy.dbzer0.com
BasedMaquisEddington@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-07-29 |
I'm not understanding the risk, are you downloading at work or on a school network? is the book content illegal where you live? worried about malware maybe? safe from whom/what is what i'm asking
I’m worried about the law’s attention for illegal procurement of otherwise legal works. I’m depriving rent collectors (oh no) and want to stay off their radar. |
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AwesomeLowlander
sh.itjust.works
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-07-12 |
You should do whatever it takes to feel safe. But FYI, no private individual has ever been sued for downloading books. |
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nagaram
piefed.social
nagaram@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-12 |
I have been raw dogging epubs from Zlibrary, Annas, and libgen for years on public WiFi, student housing, work internet, my internet the most, but you name it. Should I not do that? Though I'm not distributing which is usually what they give a shot about |
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Tollana1234567
lemmy.today
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-04 |
probably better to use it on a burner device(cheap device) if you that paranoid, and on a public wifi like library or cafes. |
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Schilling2304
thelemmy.club
Schilling2304@thelemmy.club Joined: 2026-05-11 |
Where you live
Does it matter ? Unless you live in a country with censorship on Tor, you can use bridges for that. It is a private Tor relay that is harder to block, because the IP is not publicly disclosed. |
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AlteredEgo
lemmy.ml
AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-01-26 |
Generally downloading files is pretty much safe and untraceable. At least in the countries I know of, so this might depend on where you life. What is a problem is uploading or sharing with a torrent client. Then you need a VPN. |
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dreamy (she/her)
lemmy.blahaj.zone
dreamy@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2026-06-27 |
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Whostosay
sh.itjust.works
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-07-16 |
Does it matter ? Unless you live in a country with censorship on Tor, you can use bridges for that. It is a private Tor relay that is harder to block, because the IP is not publicly disclosed.
It does 100% matter, which I why I posted that. There are entirely different network topologies for countries where it will matter and I assure you, there, it does matter. And my comment was more so about the "not illegal" bit |
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eggdaddy
lemmy.dbzer0.com
eggdaddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-07-27 |
probably better to use it on a burner device(cheap device) if you that paranoid, and on a public wifi like library or cafes.
That's a bit over the top for grabbing some text books. That's like, opsec for running an IPTV service or something... but it is possible, and easy. Whip up a vm with a linux distro, connect to an open wifi (vpn if you have one, if not who really cares), and download away. Blow away the VM when done. |
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nibbler
discuss.tchncs.de
nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2025-03-07 |
In that case, any vpn should suffice.
Yep, Swaps the ISP for the VPN provider |
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nibbler
discuss.tchncs.de
nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2025-03-07 |
It strongly depends on your threat model. |
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Eggman
thelemmy.club
Eggman@thelemmy.club Joined: 2026-07-05 |
If you are concert that the eBooks will exploit your eBook reader and infect your device you can use a website view them like this https://epubreader.net/. They will have to escape the browser sandbox to infect you'r device witch is extremely difficult and generally don't happen if you keep Firefox updated and you are not "valuable" target. I would disable file thumbnails in your file manger. |
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DoomProphet
lemmy.dbzer0.com
DoomProphet@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-02-14 |
I found everything I looked for in anna's archive so far. Since it's a simple file download I'd say it's save as long as law enforcement isn't already monitoring your connection. If that's the case you got already bigger problems. |
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BasedMaquisEddington
lemmy.dbzer0.com
BasedMaquisEddington@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-07-29 |
I found everything I looked for in anna's archive so far. Since it's a simple file download I'd say it's save as long as law enforcement isn't already monitoring your connection. If that's the case you got already bigger problems.
Hey thanks I’ll try Anna’s archive too. Based on your answer and the others, it seems like I just need to practice basic internet hygiene and I won’t get any trouble. Knowledge and peace of mind are priceless, thanks 🙏 |
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ScoffingLizard
lemmy.dbzer0.com
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-05-04 |
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The DNS default settings pissed me off. It should default to what is set by the user. |
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