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Rep. Thomas Massie Announces Federal Bill to Defund Flock Surveillance Cameras - Don't Flock
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RobotToaster mander.xyz RobotToaster@mander.xyz
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I_am_10_squirrels beehaw.org I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org
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One can hope

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bridgeenjoyer sh.itjust.works bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
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#3 · (edited) Quote Reply

And remove and destroy all of the installed ones...right? Right?

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jaybone lemmy.zip jaybone@lemmy.zip
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Aren’t most of them funded by local governments anyway?

(And then when the city councils or residents vote to stop it, the cops leave them up anyway?)

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EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted lemmy.blahaj.zone EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#5 · (edited) Quote Reply

This will never be passed because most of the people benefitting from Flock are the ones who will vote on the bill.

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chicken lemmy.dbzer0.com chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Aren’t most of them funded by local governments anyway? (And then when the city councils or residents vote to stop it, the cops leave them up anyway?)

federal bill to withhold federal money from municipalities and police departments that deploy Flock-style automated license plate reader cameras

This is so such local governments have other funding withdrawn until they get rid of the cameras, presumably

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ramenshaman lemmy.world ramenshaman@lemmy.world
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#7 · Quote Reply

Flock around and find out

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hash slrpnk.net hash@slrpnk.net
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Aren’t most of them funded by local governments anyway? (And then when the city councils or residents vote to stop it, the cops leave them up anyway?)

My local government had funds offered by a federal grant they didn't apply for. A neighboring county had applied for the federal grant, received a ton of money, and was dishing it out to police across the region.

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dan1101 lemmy.world dan1101@lemmy.world
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My local government had funds offered by a federal grant they didn't apply for. A neighboring county had applied for the federal grant, received a ton of money, and was dishing it out to police across the region.

Between this and local police working with ICE, it feels like a federal government takeover of everything. The sheriff of a neighboring county has his salary paid by ICE/DHS, and that isn't right. Federalized police departments.

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youmaynotknow lemmy.zip jjlinux@lemmy.zip
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#10 · Quote Reply

What about Motorola and Axon cameras? They all need to go, no exceptions.

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Archy lemmy.world archy@lemmy.world
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What about Motorola and Axon cameras? They all need to go, no exceptions.

Leonardo?

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d-RLY? lemmy.ml dRLY@lemmy.ml
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If it does get far enough to be introduced and to actual vote. I am guessing there will be a massive push by Flock to flood news outlets and lobbyists to how "successfully bad guys were caught" or otherwise "prevented." Probably lock-in on any instance(s) involving children being protected/found. With any and all misleading stats downplaying the actual levels of spying on literally everyone not doing anything illegal (or that children are being scanned and added to those growing databases). And the fucked up cases of false positives that drag those people into court, job losses from being accused/arrested, and financial losses from the first two.

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A_be_seedy beehaw.org A_be_seedy@beehaw.org
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If it does get far enough to be introduced and to actual vote. I am guessing there will be a massive push by Flock to flood news outlets and lobbyists to how "successfully bad guys were caught" or otherwise "prevented." Probably lock-in on any instance(s) involving children being protected/found. With any and all misleading stats downplaying the actual levels of spying on literally everyone not...

I actually saw some praise on Flock today on Facebook. Youre probably right

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quick_snail feddit.nl quick_snail@feddit.nl
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quick_snail feddit.nl quick_snail@feddit.nl
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This will never be passed because most of the people benefitting from Flock are the ones who will vote on the bill.

You think politicians like that them and their family member's every move is being tracked?

That puts them at risk

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EnsignWashout startrek.website EnsignWashout@startrek.website
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You think politicians like that them and their family member's every move is being tracked? That puts them at risk

politicians like political donations.

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YiddishMcSquidish lemmy.today YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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When the worst person you know has a good idea...

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leftOverLife lemmy.ml leftOverLife@lemmy.ml
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If it does get far enough to be introduced and to actual vote. I am guessing there will be a massive push by Flock to flood news outlets and lobbyists to how "successfully bad guys were caught" or otherwise "prevented." Probably lock-in on any instance(s) involving children being protected/found. With any and all misleading stats downplaying the actual levels of spying on literally everyone not...

But what about the poor executives?!?!

/s

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a_non_monotonic_function lemmy.world a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
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My local government had funds offered by a federal grant they didn't apply for. A neighboring county had applied for the federal grant, received a ton of money, and was dishing it out to police across the region.

Sounds like the police have too much money...

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deadcream sopuli.xyz deadcream@sopuli.xyz
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#20 · Quote Reply

You think politicians like that them and their family member's every move is being tracked? That puts them at risk

They believe it will only be used against the plebs.

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Artisian lemmy.world Artisian@lemmy.world
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What about Motorola and Axon cameras? They all need to go, no exceptions.

This; anything else is just surveillance companies jockeying for contracts. Let's ban the thing that's bad, government's spying on their own citizens, please.

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Bilb! lemmy.ml bilb@lemmy.ml
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#22 · (edited) Quote Reply

This; anything else is just surveillance companies jockeying for contracts. Let's ban the thing that's bad, government's spying on their own citizens, please.

Yeah, as much as I'd enjoy seeing bad things happen to their smarmy dipshit CEO, this is true.

I suppose a bill like this might help bring the issue to the attention of some number of people, at least.

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quick_snail feddit.nl quick_snail@feddit.nl
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They believe it will only be used against the plebs.

So let's show them that their greatest enemies have access to this data, and that the only way to keep themselves safe is to not collect it at all

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w3dd1e lemmy.zip W3dd1e@lemmy.zip
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#24 · Quote Reply

At the very least, it should require a warrant to access Flock data.

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LordCrom lemmy.world LordCrom@lemmy.world
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If it does get far enough to be introduced and to actual vote. I am guessing there will be a massive push by Flock to flood news outlets and lobbyists to how "successfully bad guys were caught" or otherwise "prevented." Probably lock-in on any instance(s) involving children being protected/found. With any and all misleading stats downplaying the actual levels of spying on literally everyone not...

Giving up freedom for security..yadda yadda

Hard counter those efforts with detailed Info on high ranking officials from flock data through FOIA. Educate themasses on what's is being watched and how all data is combined into a detailed profile

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Why is Lemmy so Racist? lemmy.world Abyssian@lemmy.world
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That would be amazing, but I can't even consider there's a chance that it's anything more than performative. Maybe he genuinely wants that to happen, since he does seem to be one of the few US politicians actually against raping kids, but there's no way flock doesn't own a lot of the other politicians and have financial ties and data sharing contracts with bigger companies who own the rest of them.

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ScoffingLizard lemmy.dbzer0.com ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#27 · (edited) Quote Reply

When the worst person you know has a good idea...

He's actually had a few other good ideas. He put forth a bill to designate AIPAC as a foreign agency so they couldn't lobby. This guy is better than all the other Republicans and at least half the dems.

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ScoffingLizard lemmy.dbzer0.com ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Giving up freedom for security..yadda yadda Hard counter those efforts with detailed Info on high ranking officials from flock data through FOIA. Educate themasses on what's is being watched and how all data is combined into a detailed profile

I do not believe municipalities are obligated to respond to FOIA requests. Those are federal, or at least I though so.

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LordCrom lemmy.world LordCrom@lemmy.world
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I do not believe municipalities are obligated to respond to FOIA requests. Those are federal, or at least I though so.

My city lets you do this....maybe its not common. But here i can request all kinds of info from garbage collection right up to all info on Flock installations.

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