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YSK: AI authentication tools are built without adequate journalist input, new report finds
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supersquirrel sopuli.xyz supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-12-09
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The reason this is important and timely is because the messaging around these tools implicitly suggests there is an air of authority and integrity it would be impossible for them to have given that no journalists have examined and analyzed the mechanisms of these tools at any stage of their development.

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Apepollo11 lemmy.world Apepollo11@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
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In fairness, a lot of news organisations are run without input from adequate journalists.

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acockworkorange mander.xyz acockworkorange@mander.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-09
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Rule 2.

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supersquirrel sopuli.xyz supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-12-09
#4 · Quote Reply

Rule 2.

Rules rules rules rules!

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acockworkorange mander.xyz acockworkorange@mander.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-09
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Rules rules rules rules!

A very mature response, thank you.

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supersquirrel sopuli.xyz supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-12-09
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A very mature response, thank you.

Is it really necessary for me to explain why you should know this?!

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roofuskit Moderator roofuskit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-03
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Is it really necessary for me to explain why you should know this?!

Yes. It helps prevent low effort and low quality posts.

Your post is now locked until you correct it. Just message me when you're done and I will unlock it.

Edit: I see you fixed it as I typed this.

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acockworkorange mander.xyz acockworkorange@mander.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-09
#8 · (edited) Quote Reply

Is it really necessary for me to explain why you should know this?!

"How come there are individuals that think on their own? I thought everything in the world was a reflection of my own consciousness. I cannot fathom a world where people don't share my thoughts and experiences."

Indeed, very few people know journalism jargon, and authentication has vastly different meanings depending on the sphere of human knowledge one is inserted into.

Alternatively:

"Surely the rules don't apply to me?"

In fact, they do.

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supersquirrel sopuli.xyz supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-12-09
#9 · Quote Reply

Yes. It helps prevent low effort and low quality posts. Your post is now locked until you correct it. Just message me when you're done and I will unlock it. Edit: I see you fixed it as I typed this.

lemmy.world is a damn trash heap facepalm

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roofuskit Moderator roofuskit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-03
#10 · (edited) Quote Reply

lemmy.world is a damn trash heap facepalm

You're welcome not to participate here.

Edit: I see you've made 13 posts in the last two hours. We strive quality over quantity here. As always, nobody is forcing you to include this community in your rapid fire posts.

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supersquirrel sopuli.xyz supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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You're welcome not to participate here. Edit: I see you've made 13 posts in the last two hours. We strive quality over quantity here. As always, nobody is forcing you to include this community in your rapid fire posts.

I happily take that invitation!

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Hawke lemmy.world Hawke@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
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Why on earth would a journalist need to have input on authentication tools??

Surely this would be more suited for a cybersecurity expert?

Not that I’d trust an AI-based authentication system anyway.

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supersquirrel sopuli.xyz supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-12-09
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Why on earth would a journalist need to have input on authentication tools?? Surely this would be more suited for a cybersecurity expert? Not that I’d trust an AI-based authentication system anyway.

Exhibit A:) Liberal Arts education > STEM education

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village604 adultswim.fan village604@adultswim.fan
Joined: 2025-09-27
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Exhibit A:) Liberal Arts education > STEM education

Because getting a liberal arts education means you use input from people unqualified to provide that input?

Getting your BA doesn't qualify you to do code security reviews. Most journalists get that information from people who are qualified to do so.

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supersquirrel sopuli.xyz supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-12-09
#15 · Quote Reply

Because getting a liberal arts education means you use input from people unqualified to provide that input? Getting your BA doesn't qualify you to do code security reviews. Most journalists get that information from people who are qualified to do so.

This isn't about code security in the way being an expert at cutting down a tree doesn't mean you understand the way forests move.

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mlfh lm.mlfh.org mlfh@lm.mlfh.org
Joined: 2026-04-07
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Why on earth would a journalist need to have input on authentication tools?? Surely this would be more suited for a cybersecurity expert? Not that I’d trust an AI-based authentication system anyway.

The post title and body don't make this clear, but "AI authentication tools" in this context refers to tools that verify the authenticity of journalistic image and video media to confirm they're not AI-generated.

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Hawke lemmy.world Hawke@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
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The post title and body don't make this clear, but "AI authentication tools" in this context refers to tools that verify the authenticity of journalistic image and video media to confirm they're not AI-generated.

It’s also not a commonly-used term. “AI authentication” mostly refers to using machine-learning AI as an authentication method (eg image recognition, behavior observation, etc.)

This sounds more like just “fact checking”.

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Phoenixz lemmy.ca phoenixz@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-10
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The post title and body don't make this clear, but "AI authentication tools" in this context refers to tools that verify the authenticity of journalistic image and video media to confirm they're not AI-generated.

Yeah, this could have been worded better.. Maybe the post title and body were AI generated?

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mlfh lm.mlfh.org mlfh@lm.mlfh.org
Joined: 2026-04-07
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Yeah, this could have been worded better.. Maybe the post title and body were AI generated?

I suspected as much, but I'll need to consult a journalist to be sure

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supersquirrel sopuli.xyz supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-12-09
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It’s also not a commonly-used term. “AI authentication” mostly refers to using machine-learning AI as an authentication method (eg image recognition, behavior observation, etc.) This sounds more like just “fact checking”.

Maybe try having your AI read the article twice before commenting next time?

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jimmy90 lemmy.world jimmy90@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#21 · (edited) Quote Reply

In fairness, a lot of news organisations are run without input from adequate journalists.

true, be nice if computer scientists had a good look instead

or maybe journos should check their sources properly like journalists do

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