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VetOfTheSeas discuss.online VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online
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sznowicki lemmy.world sznowicki@lemmy.world
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#2 · Quote Reply

Sounds like a copy of a law in Germany. Same rules. Works fine here.

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vorpuni tarte.nuage-libre.fr vorpuni@tarte.nuage-libre.fr
Joined: 2025-10-20
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“unsolicited” doing all the heavy lifting but it should help.

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Olap lemmy.world Olap@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
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Fuck when can we get this in Scotland?

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Em Adespoton lemmy.ca adespoton@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-04
#5 · Quote Reply

What is a solicited telemarketing call???

“Why yes, I want someone to call me to pressure me into doing something I don’t actually want to do!”

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huppakee lemmy.world huppakee@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-05-15
#6 · Quote Reply

The Netherlands as well since July 1st 🎉 https://business.gov.nl/amendments/telemarketing-no-more-unsolicited-calling-your-customers/

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Enoril jlai.lu Enoril@jlai.lu
Joined: 2023-08-10
#7 · Quote Reply

What is a solicited telemarketing call??? “Why yes, I want someone to call me to pressure me into doing something I don’t actually want to do!”

You buy something or a service and give them the authorization to use your phone number for a later usage.

So the telemarketing will be only with companies you're previously authorized (think contracts renegotiating, new offer proposals, survey, feedback...)

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John Richard lemmy.world timewarp@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#8 · Quote Reply

Fuck about time. Scammers/telemarketers are terrorists.

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Grandwolf319 sh.itjust.works Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-24
#9 · Quote Reply

These laws should be a slam dunk, no one wants unwanted calls.

Sighs in Canadian

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jtrek startrek.website jtrek@startrek.website
Joined: 2026-02-22
#10 · Quote Reply

I'd love this in the US, but we're ruled by the wealthy assholes here. They have personal assistants to screen their calls.

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jaybone lemmy.zip jaybone@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-02-08
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What is a solicited telemarketing call??? “Why yes, I want someone to call me to pressure me into doing something I don’t actually want to do!”

No you don’t. That’s not actually what you want.

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rbos lemmy.ca rbos@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-08
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These laws should be a slam dunk, no one wants unwanted calls. Sighs in Canadian

What, don't you want someone calling every week telling you that the IRS is going to arrest you for IRA tax fraud?

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nullptr lemmy.world kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
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Fuck about time. Scammers/telemarketers are terrorists.

terrorist lost all meaning, soon it will have the same weight as calling someone a "little rascal" lol

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homik slrpnk.net homik@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2026-05-10
#14 · Quote Reply

What is a solicited telemarketing call??? “Why yes, I want someone to call me to pressure me into doing something I don’t actually want to do!”

Business to business sales and calls from vendors that you trust. There's people that want those, somewhere. Much like there's non-spam commercial mail.

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Treczoks lemmy.world Treczoks@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#15 · Quote Reply

I welcome France to the ranks of good nations.

And Morocco, if your businesses profited that much from annoying and conning people, punishments like this are well deserved.

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some_guy lemmy.sdf.org some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-06-26
#16 · Quote Reply

It'd be cool if my country did this, but we care more about profit than anything else.

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Strider lemmy.world Strider@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-09
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Sounds like a copy of a law in Germany. Same rules. Works fine here.

Yeah, but still getting those calls and the Bundesnetzagentur say ah sorry we can't do anything.

How about upgrading the infrastructure so you can? It's been decades.

So the law is there but it doesn't work per se since there usually is no punishment as faking numbers is trivial or not pursued.

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Amberskin europe.pub Amberskin@europe.pub
Joined: 2025-03-26
#18 · Quote Reply

Good. Now ban data brokers.

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sznowicki lemmy.world sznowicki@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-02
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Yeah, but still getting those calls and the Bundesnetzagentur say ah sorry we can't do anything. How about upgrading the infrastructure so you can? It's been decades. So the law is there but it doesn't work per se since there usually is no punishment as faking numbers is trivial or not pursued.

I have both German and old Polish SIM card on my phone. The amount of robocalls I get on the Polish card is nuts compared to what I get on German. Polish is like once a week. On a German phone I get maybe one call per year from someone claiming to do surveys.

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jaybone lemmy.zip jaybone@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-02-08
#20 · Quote Reply

Don’t they just spoof numbers anyway?

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Valmond lemmy.dbzer0.com Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-11-13
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I have both German and old Polish SIM card on my phone. The amount of robocalls I get on the Polish card is nuts compared to what I get on German. Polish is like once a week. On a German phone I get maybe one call per year from someone claiming to do surveys.

Before the summer I got like 4-5 a day here in France 😵‍💫 There was some rule popping in and it's way less now, hopefully even less soon 😮‍💨

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jimerson lemmy.world jimerson@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#22 · Quote Reply

I get about 20-30 a day and at least half as many leave voicemails. The phone part of my phone is useless and deleting voicemails to keep inbox from overfilling on the rare chance a client needs something has become a chore.

There has got to be a better way.

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Rothe piefed.social Rothe@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-08-25
#23 · Quote Reply

Sounds like a copy of a law in Germany. Same rules. Works fine here.

Been illegal in Denmark since 2013 as well.

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mavu discuss.tchncs.de mavu@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-09-08
#24 · Quote Reply

France ! Je t'aime!

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Dop lemmy.zip Dop@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-12-30
#25 · Quote Reply

Yeah they're also making it illegal to access social media if you're under 15 so they're gonna have to enter their ID soon to access most websites. Sooo it doesn't even start to make it even.

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Strider lemmy.world Strider@lemmy.world
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#26 · Quote Reply

I have both German and old Polish SIM card on my phone. The amount of robocalls I get on the Polish card is nuts compared to what I get on German. Polish is like once a week. On a German phone I get maybe one call per year from someone claiming to do surveys.

Hm I would say average one per month or week, and if the number once was in a phone book, more.

Not saying it's bad compared internationally! But for being illegal, it still happens often enough.

Of course you can start to discuss from asking where the got the number etc but the best that will happen is them hanging up or cursing at you.

I've blocked enough mostly not to be bothered, but can of course see the attempts.

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ThunderComplex lemmy.today ThunderComplex@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-10-08
#27 · Quote Reply

Sounds like a copy of a law in Germany. Same rules. Works fine here.

Does it work fine tho? I get tons of robocalls.

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Bloomcole lemmy.world Bloomcole@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-17
#28 · Quote Reply

I welcome France to the ranks of good nations. And Morocco, if your businesses profited that much from annoying and conning people, punishments like this are well deserved.

yes, ignore their colonialism

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Zink programming.dev Zink@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-08-08
#29 · Quote Reply

Another story on the pile of "I'm a middle aged american and France was always the butt of the joke, yet they seem to have their heads on straighter than most places on the planet."

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John Richard lemmy.world timewarp@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#30 · Quote Reply

terrorist lost all meaning, soon it will have the same weight as calling someone a "little rascal" lol

Fair. But it meets the textbook definition of terrorism far more than when Israel uses it against children they want to murder. Unless you are referring to Israel as terrorists and pretty sure that will be first example in the dictionary.

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captainlezbian lemmy.world captainlezbian@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#31 · Quote Reply

Business to business sales and calls from vendors that you trust. There's people that want those, somewhere. Much like there's non-spam commercial mail.

Yeah, also calls because you placed an inquiry into a piece of heavy machinery or something similar. I used to get solicited sales calls on my work phone from time to time

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Treczoks lemmy.world Treczoks@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#32 · Quote Reply

yes, ignore their colonialism

I'm not ignoring it. I actually don't care about the nationality of telephone terrorists. That they build an economy on exploiting people - usually on both ends of the line - and which will falter under new and much needed laws, well, bad luck.

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Cruxifux feddit.nl Cruxifux@feddit.nl
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#33 · Quote Reply

Yeah they're also making it illegal to access social media if you're under 15 so they're gonna have to enter their ID soon to access most websites. Sooo it doesn't even start to make it even.

I think kids will be just fine without social media until they’re 15. Especially if it’s a blanket ban of every kid before then. Theres other ways to interact as a kid with your peers.

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Bloomcole lemmy.world Bloomcole@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-17
#34 · Quote Reply

I'm not ignoring it. I actually don't care about the nationality of telephone terrorists. That they build an economy on exploiting people - usually on both ends of the line - and which will falter under new and much needed laws, well, bad luck.

I welcome France to the ranks of good nations.

I'm talking about France's colonialism obviously. They are not 'good'.
And neither is Morocco, even without the phone stuff.
Also horrible colonizers of Western Sahara and a repressive regime.

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WhyAUsername_1 lemmy.world WhyAUsername_1@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#35 · Quote Reply

I think kids will be just fine without social media until they’re 15. Especially if it’s a blanket ban of every kid before then. Theres other ways to interact as a kid with your peers.

Its not a problem about the kids. Its about adults having to provide an PII (ID) for social media access.

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Dop lemmy.zip Dop@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-12-30
#36 · Quote Reply

Its not a problem about the kids. Its about adults having to provide an PII (ID) for social media access.

Exactly. Kids are just a shitty excuse, same goes for the whole Chat Control project.

There are so many other ways of working on a sefer internet for kids, such as regulation on the social medias companies themselves, forcing them to make the algo open source, preventing them from promoting toxic content etc...

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atro_city fedia.io atro_city@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-08-05
#37 · Quote Reply

Don’t they just spoof numbers anyway?

My thoughts exactly. How is it even possible to spoof numbers? There should be a law against that, but I'm afraid that there is some technical reason and banning spoofing might then lead to something like chat control. Who knows.

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jaybone lemmy.zip jaybone@lemmy.zip
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#38 · Quote Reply

My thoughts exactly. How is it even possible to spoof numbers? There should be a law against that, but I'm afraid that there is some technical reason and banning spoofing might then lead to something like chat control. Who knows.

Yeah I think it’s mainly a technical thing. Caller ID wasn’t originally designed with security in mind. Plus it’s a bunch of Indian call centers doing it, so there’s jurisdiction issues making laws pretty useless.

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atro_city fedia.io atro_city@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-08-05
#39 · Quote Reply

Yeah I think it’s mainly a technical thing. Caller ID wasn’t originally designed with security in mind. Plus it’s a bunch of Indian call centers doing it, so there’s jurisdiction issues making laws pretty useless.

I imagine that if a call is coming from outside of France but has a French subscriber number that doesn't exist, it should be possible to block the call entirely.

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leriotdelac lemmy.zip leriotdelac@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-10
#40 · Quote Reply

Sounds like a copy of a law in Germany. Same rules. Works fine here.

I receive those calls a few tomes a month...

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