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VetOfTheSeas
discuss.online
VetOfTheSeas@discuss.onlineJoined: 2025-04-27 |
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sznowicki
lemmy.world
sznowicki@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-02 |
Sounds like a copy of a law in Germany. Same rules. Works fine here. |
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vorpuni
tarte.nuage-libre.fr
vorpuni@tarte.nuage-libre.fr Joined: 2025-10-20 |
“unsolicited” doing all the heavy lifting but it should help. |
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Olap
lemmy.world
Olap@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-02 |
Fuck when can we get this in Scotland? |
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Joined: 2023-06-04 |
What is a solicited telemarketing call??? “Why yes, I want someone to call me to pressure me into doing something I don’t actually want to do!” |
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huppakee
lemmy.world
huppakee@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-05-15 |
The Netherlands as well since July 1st 🎉 https://business.gov.nl/amendments/telemarketing-no-more-unsolicited-calling-your-customers/ |
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Enoril
jlai.lu
Enoril@jlai.luJoined: 2023-08-10 |
What is a solicited telemarketing call??? “Why yes, I want someone to call me to pressure me into doing something I don’t actually want to do!”
You buy something or a service and give them the authorization to use your phone number for a later usage. So the telemarketing will be only with companies you're previously authorized (think contracts renegotiating, new offer proposals, survey, feedback...) |
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John Richard
lemmy.world
timewarp@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-22 |
Fuck about time. Scammers/telemarketers are terrorists. |
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Grandwolf319
sh.itjust.works
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-24 |
These laws should be a slam dunk, no one wants unwanted calls. Sighs in Canadian |
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jtrek
startrek.website
jtrek@startrek.website Joined: 2026-02-22 |
I'd love this in the US, but we're ruled by the wealthy assholes here. They have personal assistants to screen their calls. |
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jaybone
lemmy.zip
jaybone@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-02-08 |
What is a solicited telemarketing call??? “Why yes, I want someone to call me to pressure me into doing something I don’t actually want to do!”
No you don’t. That’s not actually what you want. |
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rbos
lemmy.ca
rbos@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-06-08 |
These laws should be a slam dunk, no one wants unwanted calls. Sighs in Canadian
What, don't you want someone calling every week telling you that the IRS is going to arrest you for IRA tax fraud? |
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nullptr
lemmy.world
kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
Fuck about time. Scammers/telemarketers are terrorists.
terrorist lost all meaning, soon it will have the same weight as calling someone a "little rascal" lol |
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homik
slrpnk.net
homik@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-05-10 |
What is a solicited telemarketing call??? “Why yes, I want someone to call me to pressure me into doing something I don’t actually want to do!”
Business to business sales and calls from vendors that you trust. There's people that want those, somewhere. Much like there's non-spam commercial mail. |
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Treczoks
lemmy.world
Treczoks@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
I welcome France to the ranks of good nations. And Morocco, if your businesses profited that much from annoying and conning people, punishments like this are well deserved. |
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some_guy
lemmy.sdf.org
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-06-26 |
It'd be cool if my country did this, but we care more about profit than anything else. |
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Strider
lemmy.world
Strider@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-09 |
Sounds like a copy of a law in Germany. Same rules. Works fine here.
Yeah, but still getting those calls and the Bundesnetzagentur say ah sorry we can't do anything. How about upgrading the infrastructure so you can? It's been decades. So the law is there but it doesn't work per se since there usually is no punishment as faking numbers is trivial or not pursued. |
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Amberskin
europe.pub
Amberskin@europe.pub Joined: 2025-03-26 |
Good. Now ban data brokers. |
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sznowicki
lemmy.world
sznowicki@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-02 |
Yeah, but still getting those calls and the Bundesnetzagentur say ah sorry we can't do anything. How about upgrading the infrastructure so you can? It's been decades. So the law is there but it doesn't work per se since there usually is no punishment as faking numbers is trivial or not pursued.
I have both German and old Polish SIM card on my phone. The amount of robocalls I get on the Polish card is nuts compared to what I get on German. Polish is like once a week. On a German phone I get maybe one call per year from someone claiming to do surveys. |
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jaybone
lemmy.zip
jaybone@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-02-08 |
Don’t they just spoof numbers anyway? |
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Valmond
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2025-11-13 |
I have both German and old Polish SIM card on my phone. The amount of robocalls I get on the Polish card is nuts compared to what I get on German. Polish is like once a week. On a German phone I get maybe one call per year from someone claiming to do surveys.
Before the summer I got like 4-5 a day here in France 😵💫 There was some rule popping in and it's way less now, hopefully even less soon 😮💨 |
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jimerson
lemmy.world
jimerson@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-01 |
I get about 20-30 a day and at least half as many leave voicemails. The phone part of my phone is useless and deleting voicemails to keep inbox from overfilling on the rare chance a client needs something has become a chore. There has got to be a better way. |
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Rothe
piefed.social
Rothe@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-25 |
Sounds like a copy of a law in Germany. Same rules. Works fine here.
Been illegal in Denmark since 2013 as well. |
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mavu
discuss.tchncs.de
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-09-08 |
France ! Je t'aime! |
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Dop
lemmy.zip
Dop@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-12-30 |
Yeah they're also making it illegal to access social media if you're under 15 so they're gonna have to enter their ID soon to access most websites. Sooo it doesn't even start to make it even. |
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Strider
lemmy.world
Strider@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-09 |
I have both German and old Polish SIM card on my phone. The amount of robocalls I get on the Polish card is nuts compared to what I get on German. Polish is like once a week. On a German phone I get maybe one call per year from someone claiming to do surveys.
Hm I would say average one per month or week, and if the number once was in a phone book, more. Not saying it's bad compared internationally! But for being illegal, it still happens often enough. Of course you can start to discuss from asking where the got the number etc but the best that will happen is them hanging up or cursing at you. I've blocked enough mostly not to be bothered, but can of course see the attempts. |
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ThunderComplex
lemmy.today
ThunderComplex@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-10-08 |
Sounds like a copy of a law in Germany. Same rules. Works fine here.
Does it work fine tho? I get tons of robocalls. |
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Bloomcole
lemmy.world
Bloomcole@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-02-17 |
I welcome France to the ranks of good nations. And Morocco, if your businesses profited that much from annoying and conning people, punishments like this are well deserved.
yes, ignore their colonialism |
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Zink
programming.dev
Zink@programming.dev Joined: 2023-08-08 |
Another story on the pile of "I'm a middle aged american and France was always the butt of the joke, yet they seem to have their heads on straighter than most places on the planet." |
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John Richard
lemmy.world
timewarp@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-22 |
terrorist lost all meaning, soon it will have the same weight as calling someone a "little rascal" lol
Fair. But it meets the textbook definition of terrorism far more than when Israel uses it against children they want to murder. Unless you are referring to Israel as terrorists and pretty sure that will be first example in the dictionary. |
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captainlezbian
lemmy.world
captainlezbian@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
Business to business sales and calls from vendors that you trust. There's people that want those, somewhere. Much like there's non-spam commercial mail.
Yeah, also calls because you placed an inquiry into a piece of heavy machinery or something similar. I used to get solicited sales calls on my work phone from time to time |
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Treczoks
lemmy.world
Treczoks@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
yes, ignore their colonialism
I'm not ignoring it. I actually don't care about the nationality of telephone terrorists. That they build an economy on exploiting people - usually on both ends of the line - and which will falter under new and much needed laws, well, bad luck. |
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Cruxifux
feddit.nl
Cruxifux@feddit.nlJoined: 2024-04-08 |
Yeah they're also making it illegal to access social media if you're under 15 so they're gonna have to enter their ID soon to access most websites. Sooo it doesn't even start to make it even.
I think kids will be just fine without social media until they’re 15. Especially if it’s a blanket ban of every kid before then. Theres other ways to interact as a kid with your peers. |
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Bloomcole
lemmy.world
Bloomcole@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-02-17 |
I'm not ignoring it. I actually don't care about the nationality of telephone terrorists. That they build an economy on exploiting people - usually on both ends of the line - and which will falter under new and much needed laws, well, bad luck.
I'm talking about France's colonialism obviously. They are not 'good'. |
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WhyAUsername_1
lemmy.world
WhyAUsername_1@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-04 |
I think kids will be just fine without social media until they’re 15. Especially if it’s a blanket ban of every kid before then. Theres other ways to interact as a kid with your peers.
Its not a problem about the kids. Its about adults having to provide an PII (ID) for social media access. |
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Dop
lemmy.zip
Dop@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-12-30 |
Its not a problem about the kids. Its about adults having to provide an PII (ID) for social media access.
Exactly. Kids are just a shitty excuse, same goes for the whole Chat Control project. There are so many other ways of working on a sefer internet for kids, such as regulation on the social medias companies themselves, forcing them to make the algo open source, preventing them from promoting toxic content etc... |
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atro_city
fedia.io
atro_city@fedia.io Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Don’t they just spoof numbers anyway?
My thoughts exactly. How is it even possible to spoof numbers? There should be a law against that, but I'm afraid that there is some technical reason and banning spoofing might then lead to something like chat control. Who knows. |
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jaybone
lemmy.zip
jaybone@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-02-08 |
My thoughts exactly. How is it even possible to spoof numbers? There should be a law against that, but I'm afraid that there is some technical reason and banning spoofing might then lead to something like chat control. Who knows.
Yeah I think it’s mainly a technical thing. Caller ID wasn’t originally designed with security in mind. Plus it’s a bunch of Indian call centers doing it, so there’s jurisdiction issues making laws pretty useless. |
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atro_city
fedia.io
atro_city@fedia.io Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Yeah I think it’s mainly a technical thing. Caller ID wasn’t originally designed with security in mind. Plus it’s a bunch of Indian call centers doing it, so there’s jurisdiction issues making laws pretty useless.
I imagine that if a call is coming from outside of France but has a French subscriber number that doesn't exist, it should be possible to block the call entirely. |
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leriotdelac
lemmy.zip
leriotdelac@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-08-10 |
Sounds like a copy of a law in Germany. Same rules. Works fine here.
I receive those calls a few tomes a month... |
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