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Skunk [any] lemmy.zip skunk@lemmy.zip
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🤣 You think your job is pointless? At least you don't "work" at the RAYTHEON ETHICS DEPARTMENT 🤣 Imagine your own coworkers being this astonished to find out that your department exists, "we have an ethics department?? 😲"

The guys supervisor is a jackass sure, but "Raytheon ethics department" is just so nonsensically comical I had to share

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Steve communick.news Steve@communick.news
Joined: 2023-08-05
#2 · (edited) Quote Reply

Morality and ethics are two different things. Ethics department is probably mostly about protecting them from internal lawsuits and whatnot.

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CompactFlax discuss.tchncs.de CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-02-14
#3 · Quote Reply

A division of the marketing division no doubt. Like the environmental department at most companies.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#4 · Quote Reply

Raytheon keeps around an ethics department for the same reason Satan reads the Bible.

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Skunk [any] lemmy.zip skunk@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-07-25
#5 · (edited) Quote Reply

A division of the marketing division no doubt. Like the environmental department at most companies.

Not even that, I googled it it's the "Ethics and Compliance" department. It's just a legal fig leaf. There isn't even the pretense. Or it's just a honeypot to fire everyone who has moral qualms.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
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A division of the marketing division no doubt. Like the environmental department at most companies.

In fairness, I've got friends in my Big Evil Oil Company's Environmental Sustainability and Health department, and a lot of what they do is researching real useful methods for improving the local ecology (after we've wrecked it with construction and extraction).

The caveat, of course, is that they do the work with an eye towards profitability.

As a case in point, a recent project involved cutting the light pollution at remote facilities by upgrading all the lighting fixtures on site. This drastically reduced the ambient light that the site produced. And, as a consequence, it reduced the cost of lighting the facility (because ambient light is an expensive waste product) while also reducing the accident rate (drivers entering and exiting the site didn't have their night vision wrecked as they came and went).

They also ran a project to detect methane leaks along the pipeline arteries. This reduced the ambient methane that the pipelines released, which was good for the environment as a whole and also good because we're in the business of selling methane rather than leaking it. The cost of the surveillance and repairs was superseded several times over by the value of the methane we retained.

The flip side of this is how anything seen as cost-positive (or labor intensive and cost-neutral) tends to be ignored.

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CompactFlax discuss.tchncs.de CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-02-14
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In fairness, I've got friends in my Big Evil Oil Company's Environmental Sustainability and Health department, and a lot of what they do is researching real useful methods for improving the local ecology (after we've wrecked it with construction and extraction). The caveat, of course, is that they do the work with an eye towards profitability. As a case in point, a recent project involved cutti...

We need a mole in that organisation feeding government entities the ideas that are discarded for cost.

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Promethiel lemmy.world Promethiel@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
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It's an offshoot of HR. Every company with more than 500 employees has an "Ethics" hotline.

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SpaceNoodle lemmy.world SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
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Not even that, I googled it it's the "Ethics and Compliance" department. It's just a legal fig leaf. There isn't even the pretense. Or it's just a honeypot to fire everyone who has moral qualms.

It's both.

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vrek programming.dev vrek@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-20
#10 · Quote Reply

I know people who work at Raytheon. It's a hot line for telling on your coworkers. That's it. So you find out Sally used her sister's catering company for a luncheon, you don't like Sally, you call the number, they "verify" and fire Sally.

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Skunk [any] lemmy.zip skunk@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-07-25
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I know people who work at Raytheon. It's a hot line for telling on your coworkers. That's it. So you find out Sally used her sister's catering company for a luncheon, you don't like Sally, you call the number, they "verify" and fire Sally.

They use the ethics hotline to dismantle worker solidarity? Yeah actually that tracks

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vrek programming.dev vrek@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-20
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They use the ethics hotline to dismantle worker solidarity? Yeah actually that tracks

The logic(and I don't agree with this) is that let's say Sally spent 550 dollars on catering. If she would have searched around she possibly could have found a comparable caterer for 500. By not doing that sally effectively stole 50 dollars.

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Gazza_of_the_Overflow piefed.social mtpender@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-07-20
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It's the same one the SCP Foundation uses, isn't it?

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docandersonn literature.cafe docandersonn@literature.cafe
Joined: 2025-07-03
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I work at one of its sister companies, in the civilian marketshare, and after the merger we all had to take a very specific ethics training about why bribing foreign government representatives is bad.

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