I've been in a lot of hotels everywhere around the world, and have never had anything like that happen. Worst I've tried was having to go to the reception to get a hairdryer because they had issues with people stealing them.

It still stinks. You’ve just blown out your ability to smell it. Don’t vape indoors in shared spaces, it’s gross.

Nobody in their right mind puts a smoke alarm in the kitchen anyway

They're good for extended stays with other people, where you want multiple bedrooms, a kitchen, and a living room. Or if you want a more private stay in a scenic area away from other people.

The basic problem of AirBNB was that it was never going to scale. Individual condo owners will never be able to compete with the efficiencies of scale of hotels. Having cleaning staff have to drive from building to building can never compete with a bunch of rooms in a single hallway.

The AirBNB concept does make sense for a few niche applications:

1. Small rental units in locations where big hotels aren't viable. (Think remote mountain cabins.)

2. Actual lived-in homes for people who are traveling and don't mind strangers staying in their house while they're away.

Neither of these scale. Cabin rentals can compete because it's not viable to build a hundred unit hotel on top of a remote mountain. But that market can't scale. Cabin rentals already have their own rental networks, and there are only so many of them. People renting out their actual residences can compete with hotels. You already have to pay your mortgage anyway, bringing in a short-term renter adds little marginal cost. But this model can't scale, as very few people actually want to rent out their own homes while they're out.

But AirBNB pulled the usual Silicon Valley bait-and-switch. Corner a market with unsustainably low prices, then raise them. The bait got many people to purchase rental units with the goal of renting them on AirBNB. But this was never going to be sustainable. Once AirBNB stopped subsidizing the rentals, the landlords have to raise the costs (both monetary and policy costs) to actually make the business profitable. And they simply cannot compete with the economies of scale of hotels.

But that is where fires start all the time...

AirBnB became too many people’s “passive income”.

They don’t want to take care of the property or have too many to take care of, so they treat customers like house sitters for the luxury of renting the property as well as building equity off them.

Pretty messed up. In the early days Airbnb was ok, we used it a couple times, but I don’t think I’d want to mess with it today.

I am just describing my experience. Just because it wasn't yours doesn't mean it is wrong. Of course with an ego the size of yours, that is probably something you can't fathom.

"Shit this guy made up for 1000, Alex."

We asked and they said they would, then wouldn't, multiple times. We were so annoyed at that point that we were going to annoy them back.

Gosh, I hate passive income. It doesnt do anything meaningful to society. Yet, the investor somehow gains more benefit from the invested resources than the people who create and use them.

It's an airbnb, not a shared space

Do you think AirBnB houses just….stop existing after you check out or something?

the only reason o can think to use one is for partying and eat the fees.

you could say the same about any other rental

At that price its going to be way out of where you want to be and possibly out of public transit network, be dilapitated and probably smell bad.

Airbnb as a service for homeowners to rent to visitors is a great idea. Want to rent out your basement to weary travellers? Heres a service to do that.

Buying 20 single family homes to generate passive income is an incredibly stupid, antisocial, and dystopian idea.

Somewhere in America a landlord is crying...

You should at least put a photoelectric fire/smoke alarm in your kitchen, those are less sensitive than the ionization alarms, they will still go off if you burn something but, you will avoid the hassle of it going off because you decided to cook some french fries or something on a frying pan.

Many people I don't think realize that usually, you can usually press the button on the alarm, and it will suppress the alarm as well. I see many folk removing the batteries until it's away.

A kitchen and other amenities are a big reason

Ok. My hotel in Saco, Maine and Plymouth, New Hampshire were nice, clean & good amenities(no resort fees). Within last 12 months.

Wait how are they even able to enforce the fee?

I've done this a lot, so I'm speaking from experience. I haven't been compromising on location (closeness to where I need to be), only on comfort. It probably depends on where you're travelling to though.

Yes, and we do.

For real. Never had any experience like such with hotels. And thankfully had experiences like yours as well (local treats in our room when we showed up.)

Hotels are great IMO.. I'll never stay in an airbnb for so many reasons but primarily because they've fucked housing markets around the world.

I've been enjoying watching the Internet collectively bully that one AirBnB couple, Cassie and Jon.

With your credit card, which they have on file.

Separate bedrooms and a kitchen have a pretty high value for a lot of travelers. You are making a big generalization here.

They rebranded “Economic rent” to make it trendy. Adam smith is creating a vortex in his grave.

$1k deposit, but yeah

I've really been working on upgrading this one but it really does the job

What, you too good for a 24"x18" counter with a combination dishwasher, coffee maker, microwave, and minifridge?

I stay at hotels like that sometimes.

No, glycerin and propylene glycol don't have a smell that would be noticeable, even if you're looking for it.

They are at least half descent like you asked. If you wanted good, you should have been more specific.

No, they're not half decent for preparing a meal.

The same can be said for your anecdotes.

Never been to a hotel in the middle of the woods with no other guests

That's my point. You're not picking hotel alternative not because airbnb is better, but because there is no alternative.

I'm out of the loop on that one. What happened?

They're a couple that just go crazy with what they expect from people that stay at their place. The clip that I first saw that I think made them go viral was them upset the guests left the TV remote in a different room (on the table next to where they keep their rulebook), moved a footstool, left the bed unmade, and left a few things of food in the fridge in containers. They do charge a hefty cleaning fee and have some crazy rules with steep fines like charging I think like $50 for every minute past their early checkout time or something.

https://theonion.com/landlord-forced-to-raise-rent-due-to-thinking-of-bigger-1850922943/

Ironically the same brown central south American cleaning crew cleans up for the hotels and airbnb, also they are disappearing because of ICE

with a service fee.

its cheap for large groups, but smaller groups not so much

and it was being used by some corps to worsen the housing crisis too.

They just give your card credentials to random people? Ffs I didn't know they do it like that. It's crazy that we just allow it.

I was previously using a separate card for them specifically, and way after the trip someone made an attempt to grab some ~200€ from my card. I've noticed instantly so I had a convo with bank and blocked.

Now it all makes sense. Fucking hell.

Seems you need a throwaway cards every time you want to use them then.

AirBnB is not for ‘cheap’ stays anymore (if it ever was), it works a lot better when you use it to find quirky/interesting places to stay (like a treehouse!). People still try to use it to replace a hotel though. $100/night can usually get you a decent room with breakfast at a hotel in most areas.

So, higher airbnb cleaning fees are coming?

After a quick search, they contain propylene glycoland and vegetable glycerin, sometimes they also add distilled water
None of them has a smell, they do have a sweet taste but that's it

privacy.com is great, although they only operate in the US. Not sure what the European alternative is.

You can spin up throw away and merchant locked cards, set limits per card, and pause or delete them anytime without having to deal with bank and getting a new card.