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Wren
lemmy.today
Wren@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-04 |
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jdr
lemmy.ml
jdr@lemmy.ml Joined: 2021-07-28 |
If it's got science in the name then it's not a real science. No counterexamples, thank you. |
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Scratch
sh.itjust.works
DScratch@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Most people don’t know shit about 99.9% of the universe. |
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crazypeople.online
crazycraw@crazypeople.onlineJoined: 2025-06-30 |
If it's got science in the name then it's not a real science. No counterexamples, thank you.
this feels linguistically correct, as science simply means "to study" so, "political to study" doesn't make linguistic sense, IMHO. |
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| protist Member Joined: 2026-03-10 |
So-called "hard science" mfers struggling to tolerate that everything we've ever conceived of is through the subjective lens of being a human |
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Wren
Moderator
Wren@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-04 |
So-called "hard science" mfers struggling to tolerate that everything we've ever conceived of is through the subjective lens of being a human
Except for Dr. Brian Fisher
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lemmy.dbzer0.com
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-12 |
If it's got science in the name then it's not a real science. No counterexamples, thank you.
Physical science. Boom. Roasted. |
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sp3ctr4l
lemmy.dbzer0.com
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2025-04-10 |
As a poli sci major, I can tell you that I fully agree political science is not a real science. Parts of it generate reliably useful and accurate predictions... a lot of the rest of it is basically just secular religious dogma and apologia for such. Here, we can prove out with repeated game theory sets that I really am not a threat, if this is needed by the big math brains, lol. |
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| protist Member Joined: 2026-03-10 |
As a poli sci major, I can tell you that I fully agree political science is not a real science. Parts of it generate reliably useful and accurate predictions... a lot of the rest of it is basically just secular religious dogma and apologia for such. Here, we can prove out with repeated game theory sets that I really am not a threat, if this is needed by the big math brains, lol.
Like any science, it's only as good as the people studying it.
These people are doing science
These people are not doing science |
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SmoothOperator
lemmy.world
SmoothOperator@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-08 |
So-called "hard science" mfers struggling to tolerate that everything we've ever conceived of is through the subjective lens of being a human
It's actually through the intersubjective lense of human society. |
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fyzzlefry
retrolemmy.com
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.comJoined: 2025-03-16 |
Most people don’t know shit about 99.9% of the universe.
I don't know everything about my house. |
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Solumbran
lemmy.world
Solumbran@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
Like any science, it's only as good as the people studying it. Parts of it generate reliably useful and accurate predictions These people are doing science a lot of the rest of it is basically just secular religious dogma and apologia for such These people are not doing science
That's the thing, instead of mocking people who do fake science, they mock subjects. And that's how you end up with so many morons believing in sect leaders just because they are working in "real" scientific subjects, so they must have the answer to the universe. |
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Nouvellalia
lemmy.world
Nouvellalia@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-02-16 |
What? It's very obvious. Most of the universe is extremely dense, hyper efficient, computational matter. The stuff we can see was left for new species to develop and advance so as to provide novel minds to the one that got there first. We're in a nature preserve. It is by far the most likely outcome. We can't see it for the same reason an ant burrowing out of the surface of the mall parking lot can't see the Khols, and even if it could it would just think it's part of the forest. It has been billions of years. Thinking we're the first intelligent species is some Abrahamic masturbation. |
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sp3ctr4l
lemmy.dbzer0.com
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2025-04-10 |
Like any science, it's only as good as the people studying it. Parts of it generate reliably useful and accurate predictions These people are doing science a lot of the rest of it is basically just secular religious dogma and apologia for such These people are not doing science
The problem is that the term 'political scientist' does not make this distinction. The people who use this term, self-identify with this term, do not make this distinction. I know, because I am one of them. |
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sp3ctr4l
lemmy.dbzer0.com
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2025-04-10 |
That's the thing, instead of mocking people who do fake science, they mock subjects. And that's how you end up with so many morons believing in sect leaders just because they are working in "real" scientific subjects, so they must have the answer to the universe.
I ... have a poli sci degree, have done 'political science'. I mock, or critique the field... from within it. If it is to be an actual science... it needs to be more empirical, more falseifiable, needs to be amenable to self-correction, by weeding out the bullshit and replacing it with / re-orienting around... actual empiricism, disprovable concepts. Part of the problem is as you say, that people mock things they disgree with or do not understand, and then look to even more dubious sources of 'knowledge' to inform themselves, who are often simply more charismatic or confident sounding. ... but a large part of why that happens, is that a lot of the methods that people who call themselves 'scientists' use... are not very scientific, and thus become little better than elitist dogmas that require a college degree to be initiated into. Go look at how many ideological 'thought leaders', ideological talking heads for absurd poltical ideologies... have political science degrees, and use those to signal reasoned and educated authority behind their often dubious opinions, which they often present as simply fact. I mock or critique the field broadly, because this is a broad and widespread problem. Or, you can argue the entire term 'Political Science' is a misnomer. One generally first achieves an Arts degree, not a Science degree, in 'Political Science'... because there is generally little emphasis on math or the mechanics of empiricism. I do very much think that the humanities are incredibly important fields of study.. but maybe we should not have a situation where we call people with most often Arts degrees 'Scientists'. |
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