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Rose for a Vihuela de Mano (Renaissance Guitar). Cherry/ Ebony/ Parchment. ⌀87mm
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alleycat feddit.org alleycat@feddit.org
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I constructed everything in Fusion360 and cut the wood layers on a CNC. The parchment layer was cut with a foil cutting machine.
Here are the individual layers:

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Jake Farm sopuli.xyz Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz
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I'd love to see the finished guitar

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alleycat feddit.org alleycat@feddit.org
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I'd love to see the finished guitar

Here is a bit of a sneak peek, since I have the top already cut to shape (plus 5mm extra which will be trimmed after closing the guitar):

Top of a Vihuelade Mano with rosette

Nothing glued yet, just to get an idea of how it'll look later.

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TheHive feddit.org luftruessel@feddit.org
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What CNC are you using? And how large (small) were the bits?

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alleycat feddit.org alleycat@feddit.org
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What CNC are you using? And how large (small) were the bits?

The mechanical parts are a CompactLine 8050 from Sorotec (German manufacturer), Spinogy X22 spindle, and the electronics are custom.

For cutting the rose pattern I used a 15° "RazorPoint" V-carving bit, which worked remarkably well. I have basically zero-radius corners at the bottom.

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TheHive feddit.org luftruessel@feddit.org
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The mechanical parts are a CompactLine 8050 from Sorotec (German manufacturer), Spinogy X22 spindle, and the electronics are custom. For cutting the rose pattern I used a 15° "RazorPoint" V-carving bit, which worked remarkably well. I have basically zero-radius corners at the bottom.

So not quite the cheap stuff I guess 😂 Had also looked at this one and I'm afraid one day I'll end up with one as well

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Alavi programming.dev somegeek@programming.dev
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Gorgeous

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Telorand reddthat.com Telorand@reddthat.com
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Why the ebony layer if it's overlaid exactly by the cherry layer? Does it add extra visual depth, or is it a sonic choice?

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christopher lemmy.ca christopher@lemmy.ca
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How would you do something like this by hand?

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Zoop beehaw.org Zoop@beehaw.org
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Wow. This is absolutely gorgeous! Seriously great job, and thank you for sharing with us! You're talented :)

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alleycat feddit.org alleycat@feddit.org
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Why the ebony layer if it's overlaid exactly by the cherry layer? Does it add extra visual depth, or is it a sonic choice?

Does it add extra visual depth, or [...]

Exactly this! It is also slightly larger than the cherry layer, so ot looks like a black outline.
Cherry and Ebony layer are each 1mm deep, so the ebony gives an interesting effect when the rose is viewed slightly from the side.

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alleycat feddit.org alleycat@feddit.org
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How would you do something like this by hand?

For the wooden layers: Construct the pattern on paper, transfer it to the wood, then cut with a scalpel from behind.

For the parchment layer: by using a mixture of specialized stencils and gouges of varying radiuses.

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Telorand reddthat.com Telorand@reddthat.com
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Does it add extra visual depth, or [...] Exactly this! It is also slightly larger than the cherry layer, so ot looks like a black outline. Cherry and Ebony layer are each 1mm deep, so the ebony gives an interesting effect when the rose is viewed slightly from the side.

Neat! I hope you post some shots when it's all done!

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BCsven lemmy.ca BCsven@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-17
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This looks amazing. What sound changes does it make to a guitar, compared to a fully open sound hole?

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alleycat feddit.org alleycat@feddit.org
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This looks amazing. What sound changes does it make to a guitar, compared to a fully open sound hole?

It dampens the sound a bit, makes the instrument sound less bright. Renaissance & Baroque guitars are much brighter in tone than modern guitars, so without a rose, these might sound too harsh.

I tested a 3d-printed rose insert for my classical guitar and it just sounded... well, not unpleasant, but muffled, like hearing it from a distance, or from the next room. Modern guitars naturally sound more mellow, so this was too much. Sounded decent with a capo on 5th fret, though.

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BCsven lemmy.ca BCsven@lemmy.ca
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It dampens the sound a bit, makes the instrument sound less bright. Renaissance & Baroque guitars are much brighter in tone than modern guitars, so without a rose, these might sound too harsh. I tested a 3d-printed rose insert for my classical guitar and it just sounded... well, not unpleasant, but muffled, like hearing it from a distance, or from the next room. Modern guitars naturally sou...

Thanks, this in interesting info

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