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jaykrown
lemmy.world
jaykrown@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-11-20 |
That's about a 50% reduction in size, lossless, zero reduction in quality or change to pixels from lossless PNG to lossless JXL. So the browser tools i built basically serves you the tools to easily convert stuff without needing to know anything about libjxl. The JPEG reconstruction is the most interesting thing, you're taking a lossy JPEG, converting it to lossless JPEG XL, and you're seeing a 20% reduction in size while preserving that compression data. |
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MV [Jerboa dev]
lemmy.world
testEmailVerified@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-25 |
Lemmy already supports webp through pictrs. you can get a webp format image for every image uploaded. Not against jpegxl though. But argument isn't as strong since jpegxl is prob more of tradeoff against it |
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jaykrown
lemmy.world
jaykrown@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-11-20 |
Lemmy already supports webp through pictrs. you can get a webp format image for every image uploaded. Not against jpegxl though. But argument isn't as strong since jpegxl is prob more of tradeoff against it
Thanks for replying, I think it's still very worthwhile to support JPEG XL even while WebP exists given that WebP is technologically inferior to JPEG XL in almost every way. |
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breadsmasher
lemmy.world
breadsmasher@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Thanks for replying, I think it's still very worthwhile to support JPEG XL even while WebP exists given that WebP is technologically inferior to JPEG XL in almost every way.
could you list some of these ways? |
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MV [Jerboa dev]
lemmy.world
testEmailVerified@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-25 |
Thanks for replying, I think it's still very worthwhile to support JPEG XL even while WebP exists given that WebP is technologically inferior to JPEG XL in almost every way.
I took a look and Pictrs already should support JXL (jpeg xl) I believe it already works, all though unable to confirm this as I dont have anything atm that can display JXL. ^ even though the above says see this for the default format https://git.asonix.dog/asonix/pict-rs/src/branch/main/pict-rs.toml#L347 But tbh i doubt the default format will change soon bc JXL support is very poor. No android device supports it yet. and the latest browsers only in beta. Only apple side it seems to have some support already. |
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leanleft
lemmy.ml
leanleft@lemmy.mlJoined: 2020-01-21 |
my last 5 uploads averaged 10kilobyte per img (webp). |
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jaykrown
lemmy.world
jaykrown@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-11-20 |
I took a look and Pictrs already should support JXL (jpeg xl) I believe it already works, all though unable to confirm this as I dont have anything atm that can display JXL. ^ even though the above says .webp it should be a jxl format image see this for the default format https://git.asonix.dog/asonix/pict-rs/src/branch/main/pict-rs.toml#L347 But tbh i doubt the default format will change soon ...
Yea this is diplaying in the UI for me, why does it requre the .webp?format=jxl instead of just being .jxl? Seems weird. If you want something that can display JPEG XL you can use chromium and go to chrome://flags/#enable-jxl
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jaykrown
lemmy.world
jaykrown@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-11-20 |
my last 5 uploads averaged 10kilobyte per img (webp). i don't disagree to say that we shouldn't use the best technology available. but relevant to note: proper optimization of the image goes a loooong way.(often more effective than just relying on a file format with theoretical-max efficient compression. i love this subject.. because i hate reddit where ppl upload a screenshot of plain-text fro...
Indeed it's a huge waste, and with all these data center hysteria, this is a genuine solution to reduce data storage/transfer costs. |
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jaykrown
lemmy.world
jaykrown@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-11-20 |
could you list some of these ways?
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9point6
lemmy.world
9point6@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Firstly, I agree, but: PNG to JXL is a laughably misleading comparison, the two formats have entirely different use cases JPEG to JPEG XL is good enough of a comparison without leaving yourself open to such an obvious retort |
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AirBreather
lemmy.world
airbreather@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Firstly, I agree, but: PNG to JXL is a laughably misleading comparison, the two formats have entirely different use cases JPEG to JPEG XL is good enough of a comparison without leaving yourself open to such an obvious retort
JXL has a lossless mode, which is what they're referring to. Sounds like a fair comparison to me. |
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jaykrown
lemmy.world
jaykrown@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-11-20 |
Firstly, I agree, but: PNG to JXL is a laughably misleading comparison, the two formats have entirely different use cases JPEG to JPEG XL is good enough of a comparison without leaving yourself open to such an obvious retort
Do they? JXL is lossless, this conversion is purely lossless. What are the different use cases? |
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x00z
lemmy.world
x00z@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-07-26 |
You're saying those two images next to eachother are the same image? And that the left one is lossless? Because I can literally see the differences. |
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jaykrown
lemmy.world
jaykrown@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-11-20 |
You're saying those two images next to eachother are the same image? And that the left one is lossless? Because I can literally see the differences.
It's a compressed WebP so what you're seeing isn't truly the actual images. Unfortunately I had to upload a compressed WebP of the example, solely to display the size difference. If you want to see clear comparisons go to https://jpegxl.info/ |
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Kairos
lemmy.today
LodeMike@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-12-26 |
Lossy format beats lossless. More at 11. |
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jaykrown
lemmy.world
jaykrown@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-11-20 |
Lossy format beats lossless. More at 11.
It's from lossless PNG to lossless JXL. |
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