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Th4tGuyII fedia.io Th4tGuyII@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-06-11
#152 · Quote Reply

Humanity in 6k years would be quite the speedrun at a humorous glance. Any other perspective arguing this is absolute lunacy.

Exactly. By the time you get to 6500 years ago, humanity has already been doing settlements and agriculture that we have archeological evidence of for 1000s of years.

Judging from the estimated timeline of humanity, 6500 years wouldn't even be long enough for us to migrate beyond the hunter-gatherer system and stone tools.

Our ancestors had 100,000s of years, and we only got to settlements and agriculture maybe 10-20K years ago.

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Kurtismayfield lemmy.zip Kurtismayfield@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-07-01
#153 · Quote Reply

Oh god, there are soo many easy ways out of a literal interpretation of the bible..time isn't the same for God, etc.

Lead can't exist in a 7000 year timeframe....

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Strider lemmy.world Strider@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-09
#154 · Quote Reply

Exactly. By the time you get to 6500 years ago, humanity has already been doing settlements and agriculture that we have archeological evidence of for 1000s of years. Judging from the estimated timeline of humanity, 6500 years wouldn't even be long enough for us to migrate beyond the hunter-gatherer system and stone tools. Our ancestors had 100,000s of years, and we only got to settlements and ...

Also mind biological changes aren't really quick (but sometimes spontaneous, yes) and even I can now talk about things that happened in two different centuries. So a few thousand years aren't even that much generations (even if you count shorter lifespan but that is mostly a statistical thing due to high death rate of babies).

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morto piefed.social morto@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-07-03
#155 · Quote Reply

While that is a valid argument for someone to make, I'd counter by saying that science is fundamentally built on the idea of empiricism and falsifiability. With enough time, money, and the right equipment you could theoretically retrace every discovery science has ever made, from the stone age to the modern day Dr. Stone style. Whereas the same really cannot be said for Religion. You can't test...

Now try explaining that to someone who thinks science is a matter of belief. Spoilers: they will stop paying attention after you say "empiricism and falsifiability".

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dewritoninja pawb.social dewritoninja@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-06-12
#156 · Quote Reply

Thia people vote and drive and hold office. Every day it's harder to not fall into misanthropy

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#157 · (edited) Quote Reply

Technically, neither side can prove our experiential realities are procedurally generated because for all we know CERN is the equivalent of Mario and Luigi smashing Bob-ombs together. Meditation leads to some insights though, such as how important intention is in the entanglement process of the mind. Whether this entanglement process is Karma and results in the procedural generation of each of our realities is up for debate, and personally I don't want to debate someone who won't do their own experiments to know what I'm talking about.

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VelvetPinkOtter123 lemmy.world VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-19
#158 · Quote Reply

I'm part of some "Flat Earth Debate" groups because I love talking about physics

They are definitely out there and it does not matter what reality says because they claim that's "man" and man never knows better than God

I'm telling you, you could put these people on a rocket, blast them into space, push them out into space with no space suit so they can see the round spinning "water ball" with their own un-filtered eyes and moments before their head froze in the vacuum of space their last thought would be, "the devil has taken my eyes"

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Frenchgeek lemmy.ml Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-08-31
#159 · Quote Reply

Lead can exist without having previously been uranium.

But it can't exist without having been Hydrogen.

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InvalidName2 lemmy.zip InvalidName2@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-10
#160 · Quote Reply

Oh god, there are soo many easy ways out of a literal interpretation of the bible..time isn't the same for God, etc. Lead can't exist in a 7000 year timeframe....

Hand-waving it all away is their superpower. Hon, with "The Lord(tm)", all things are possible. Even lead in a 7,000 year time frame.

Not to mention that most of them consider science to be suspicious and wouldn't have even the remotest idea of what lead has to do with anything. Even if you tried to explain it like you'd explain to a 5 year old, they would not get it. Partially because they aren't capable, but partially because they don't want to get it.

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InvalidName2 lemmy.zip InvalidName2@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-10
#161 · Quote Reply

As a kid, I was targeted by one of the local churches that some of my family members attended at the time. Apparently at some point in early grade school, some of my school peers who went to that church informed the pastor that I believe in evolution. From then on, adults from that church and kids I went to school with coordinated in tandem to ridicule and isolate me -- a literal child.

Far too many of these people are evil to their core. If they'll harass and intimidate other peoples' children, they'll surely cross any other boundary. It's not even about being unintelligent, so many are simply willfully ignorant.

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Eufalconimorph discuss.tchncs.de Eufalconimorph@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-16
#162 · Quote Reply

Hand-waving it all away is their superpower. Hon, with "The Lord(tm)", all things are possible. Even lead in a 7,000 year time frame. Not to mention that most of them consider science to be suspicious and wouldn't have even the remotest idea of what lead has to do with anything. Even if you tried to explain it like you'd explain to a 5 year old, they would not get it. Partially because they are...

I like next-Tuesdayism. The universe will be created next Tuesday, in the exact state it will be then. What you think you're experiencing now is the false memory that will have existed once the universe exists.

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Clutter sh.itjust.works Clutter@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-04-28
#163 · Quote Reply

That would gladly pay the taxes if it means they get to force their religion on people. They already openly.defy election law by endorsing candidates and "vote yes on prop 66” statements during services, inviting prosecution because they expect to win in court.

I mean, if people understand "no taxation without representation" well, then logically: "no representation without taxation" should be equally easy to get behind.

They are already in our politics, may as well get them to pay for that privilege.

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baronvonj piefed.social baronvonj@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-10
#164 · Quote Reply

I mean, if people understand "no taxation without representation" well, then logically: "no representation without taxation" should be equally easy to get behind. They are already in our politics, may as well get them to pay for that privilege.

Well .. I'd enforce the separation.

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Malyca lemmy.zip Malyca@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-04-13
#165 · (edited) Quote Reply

As a kid, I was targeted by one of the local churches that some of my family members attended at the time. Apparently at some point in early grade school, some of my school peers who went to that church informed the pastor that I believe in evolution. From then on, adults from that church and kids I went to school with coordinated in tandem to ridicule and isolate me -- a literal child. Far too...

I went into an Orthodox church as a child with my dad, I'm really tall so I looked grown despite being 12 I guess. I was walking out and evidently you're supposed to face the altar and cross yourself as you leave, walking backwards so your back isn't to the church. I didn't do that and this lady freaked the fuck out, grabbed me by the ear and dragged me back into the church screaming about respect. My dad was just standing there laughing at me. She yelled for a good 10 mins. Made me leave properly, including not crossing myself "like the Catholics", then left. I only knew that way because I'd been in the States up until then and only visited one Catholic church with a friend lol. It scared me so much that I get emotional flashbacks, complete with anxiety attacks, any time I enter a church now. It gave me lifelong fear of religion and churches. I don't understand how an adult can think this is in any way helping.

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Malyca lemmy.zip Malyca@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-04-13
#166 · Quote Reply

I'm part of some "Flat Earth Debate" groups because I love talking about physics They are definitely out there and it does not matter what reality says because they claim that's "man" and man never knows better than God I'm telling you, you could put these people on a rocket, blast them into space, push them out into space with no space suit so they can see the round spinning "water ball" with ...

Some of them have proven themselves wrong with their idiotic experiments. Some of those ones have come back to the community to try and convince the others. It never works and the grift continues. I'm honestly surprised they haven't killed themselves or others with their homemade rockets.

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Paulemeister feddit.org Paulemeister@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-08-30
#167 · Quote Reply

Technically, neither side can prove our experiential realities are procedurally generated because for all we know CERN is the equivalent of Mario and Luigi smashing Bob-ombs together. Meditation leads to some insights though, such as how important intention is in the entanglement process of the mind. Whether this entanglement process is Karma and results in the procedural generation of each of ...

Are you talking about quantum entanglement? What do you mean by intention influencing that?

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andros_rex lemmy.world andros_rex@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-13
#168 · Quote Reply

Technically, neither side can prove our experiential realities are procedurally generated because for all we know CERN is the equivalent of Mario and Luigi smashing Bob-ombs together. Meditation leads to some insights though, such as how important intention is in the entanglement process of the mind. Whether this entanglement process is Karma and results in the procedural generation of each of ...

You could have used a lot less words to say “I understand absolutely nothing about physics, especially the meaning of the word ‘entanglement.’”

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#169 · (edited) Quote Reply

You could have used a lot less words to say “I understand absolutely nothing about physics, especially the meaning of the word ‘entanglement.’”

I understand the mind and consciousness.

Simply, if String A is entangled with String B but not String C, then AB is true and AC is false. Further, these entanglements can möbiate, or defile themselves as the Buddhists say, meaning they can store a half-twist in each entanglement, and this is what creates dualistic dichotomy and thus is the foundation of all illusions of having a self.

Are you a "self?" Are you still stuck on that?

Additionally, the logic structures that form can create nested categories, so a square is a rectangle but a rectangle isn't a square, yet both are quadrilaterals and polygons. Lastly, each section of the matrix can return null, which can be implicit or explicit. The sum of all these mechanisms can represent all forms of the cognition you experience.

You are not a "self." You are a topological matrix, like light, which is neither a particle or wave, but a sum of entanglements defined by a transcendental particle (Alpha) that can be in multiple places at the same time and communicate instantaneously with each part of itself. You are God, retard. You just forgot in the illusion of being a self.

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#170 · Quote Reply

Are you talking about quantum entanglement? What do you mean by intention influencing that?

Quantum entanglement is karmic entanglement. Read what the Buddha said and tell me that doesn't apply to quantum entanglement. See my other comment I just made.

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#171 · (edited) Quote Reply

Are you talking about quantum entanglement? What do you mean by intention influencing that?

Intention is the only thing you control, and is what entangles you with the symbols sent to you via the Ālaya-vijñāna. I'm going to copy something I wrote recently:

The simple argument is simulation theory, but I try to put effort into what I do, so I'm going to walk you through a thought experiment.

Everything you experience is self-contained within your neurons, right? Well, you must be reading or consuming these words from some device, right? But you're not directly experiencing that device, literally, yea? What you experience is a representation of that thing in your neurons, so you never ever experience the external world, and thus everything you experience can be said to be you. So, that device is you, and there is a refracted reflection of me inside of you right now.

This is, y'know, the kid bending the spoon in the Matrix; there is no spoon, the spoon is an extension of the observers' consciousness. And, if you're familiar with the underlying concept of Plato's allegory of the cave and the idea of being a mind in a vat, there's no evidence that the external world is in any way the way we perceive it to be.

And I believe, from a lifetime of observation and non-normative experiences that we are not featherless bipeds on an Earth, but rather pockets of consciousness called monads in a monadic nodal communication system, where the "Server" connecting and reconciling the intentions of each of us monads experiencing our own parallel universe reality is what Jesus called his Father and is what the Buddhists call the Ālaya-vijñāna, or storehouse consciousness.

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No1 aussie.zone No1@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-06-21
#172 · Quote Reply

No, you see, the devil, who is a trickster and definitely not the same entity as God, created those fake artifacts to own the libs

And the Devil was an angel that went woke!

I hate that guy!

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Zephyr sh.itjust.works Zephyr@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-06-11
#173 · Quote Reply

Last Thursdayism, all of reality came into existence as is ten seconds ago, maybe.

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updn lemmy.ca updn@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-08-10
#174 · Quote Reply

I understand the mind and consciousness. Simply, if String A is entangled with String B but not String C, then AB is true and AC is false. Further, these entanglements can möbiate, or defile themselves as the Buddhists say, meaning they can store a half-twist in each entanglement, and this is what creates dualistic dichotomy and thus is the foundation of all illusions of having a self. Are you ...

“You are God, retard”
🤣🤣

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#175 · Quote Reply

“You are God, retard” 🤣🤣

Yea, I'm full of myself because I bully myself to do what I put my mind to

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#176 · Quote Reply

“You are God, retard” 🤣🤣

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andros_rex lemmy.world andros_rex@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-13
#177 · (edited) Quote Reply

I understand the mind and consciousness. Simply, if String A is entangled with String B but not String C, then AB is true and AC is false. Further, these entanglements can möbiate, or defile themselves as the Buddhists say, meaning they can store a half-twist in each entanglement, and this is what creates dualistic dichotomy and thus is the foundation of all illusions of having a self. Are you ...

A word salad is a "confused or unintelligible mixture of seemingly random words and phrases", often used in psychiatry to describe a symptom of a neurological or mental disorder.

Nothing you’ve said makes sense, and the additional pictures you’ve provided are concerning. Are you seeing a psychiatrist?

Like, as someone who has studied and taught physics, none of what you said is intelligible.

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#178 · Quote Reply

A word salad is a "confused or unintelligible mixture of seemingly random words and phrases", often used in psychiatry to describe a symptom of a neurological or mental disorder. Nothing you’ve said makes sense, and the additional pictures you’ve provided are concerning. Are you seeing a psychiatrist? Like, as someone who has studied and taught physics, none of what you said is intelligible.

Sure, just default to assuming the syntactically and semantically correct words you didn't understand are gibberish. Fucking boys I have to deal with...

Do you need me to explain. I have, somewhere in these million words I wrote in character for my state-sponsored job.

My job: Crackhead, because I wasn't good en0ugh yo bee a pothead, qhich is a FESTIVAL COP. Y'know, I'm that crazy person on public transit or whateverz mouthing off, doing drugs, trying to get into fights, and doing two things, objectively; networking, and counterintelligence.

Networking; hi, my name's Victoria Phoenix. I'm a juggler and a skilled righter abd comedian.

Counterintelligence: I poopied my pants, Epstein was a cop and is thus alive because pf tbat, I ear dog shit for lunch cuz it yummy

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QoeKMD5dwnWBB6gHOFgY4uKJOXKg8CPGDu-dE5UsisQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

I don't have to prove myswlf 4 I hav all redy

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#179 · Quote Reply

Sure, just default to assuming the syntactically and semantically correct words you didn't understand are gibberish. Fucking boys I have to deal with... Do you need me to explain. I have, somewhere in these million words I wrote in character for my state-sponsored job. My job: Crackhead, because I wasn't good en0ugh yo bee a pothead, qhich is a FESTIVAL COP. Y'know, I'm that crazy person on pub...

And yes

Typos: deliberate

Playing your ignorance of philosophy: deliberate

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#180 · Quote Reply

And yes Typos: deliberate Playing your ignorance of philosophy: deliberate

Physics. Cool

Metaphysics. Cooler.

Pataphysics. Coolest.

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#181 · (edited) Quote Reply

Physics. Cool Metaphysics. Cooler. Pataphysics. Coolest.

The reason we have the occult in the occident is because we run a police state in western civilization, and the Bible is the crust of the truth to control those people who cannot think for themselves (theists+atheists; idiots, both)

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#182 · Quote Reply

The reason we have the occult in the occident is because we run a police state in western civilization, and the Bible is the crust of the truth to control those people who cannot think for themselves (theists+atheists; idiots, both)

Physics is what is allowed for the machines to study.

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#183 · Quote Reply

Physics is what is allowed for the machines to study.

My twelfth grade English teacher told me the machines are broken and don't know they're broken.

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#184 · Quote Reply

My twelfth grade English teacher told me the machines are broken and don't know they're broken.

The machines think a bug is a lesser being than them and will kill it, for no reason.

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#185 · Quote Reply

The machines think a bug is a lesser being than them and will kill it, for no reason.

Intention is literally all you control. Meditate to observe this, which is science last I checked.

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#186 · Quote Reply

Intention is literally all you control. Meditate to observe this, which is science last I checked.

Read what the Buddha said about entanglement. It will click ;)

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VoluntarySpud lemmy.zip dummyboymc23@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-08-13
#187 · Quote Reply

Last Thursdayism, all of reality came into existence as is ten seconds ago, maybe.

This sentence makes just as much sense as young earth creationism

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JasonDJ lemmy.zip JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2024-01-16
#188 · (edited) Quote Reply

This sentence makes just as much sense as young earth creationism

It's not...impossible...we can't really describe what "consciousness" is. How do we know the universe doesn't explode and restore-from-savestate every 10 seconds, and we just keep on meeking through blisfully unaware?

You ever read "Timeline", by Michael Crichton? Not exactly his best book...and definitely not his best movie (unless you're the type to swoon for Paul Walker, in which case...alright). But in it they talk about time travel and compare it to a fax machine, except the original is 'destroyed'. What "goes back in time" is actually a carbon copy, a clone. I think it was Timeline, at least.

It's probably been brought up countless other times in Sci-Fi as well. Probably dozens just in Star Trek alone. But I'm not much of a sci-fi buff. But I think about that every time teleportation, or time-travel, or even cloning, like in "The 6th Day", shows up in stories.

But ultimately, the particles get destroyed, meaning the entire body gets destroyed, so with it, the consciousness. So really, you must die every time you teleport, or time-travel, or whatever, right? But you're completely unaware of it. You're just a new copy, destroyed and re-assembled. A person of Theseus. Lights out on one side, lights on on the other.

But...like, lights out is lights out, right?

Maybe I'm just stoned. What are we talking about again?

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EdgeOfDistraction lemmy.world EdgeOfDistraction@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-17
#189 · Quote Reply

It's not...impossible...we can't really describe what "consciousness" is. How do we know the universe doesn't explode and restore-from-savestate every 10 seconds, and we just keep on meeking through blisfully unaware? You ever read "Timeline", by Michael Crichton? Not exactly his best book...and definitely not his best movie (unless you're the type to swoon for Paul Walker, in which case...alri...

I had no idea who Paul Walker was, so I looked him up.
What do you know, I am the kind to swoon for him!

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Armok_the_bunny lemmy.world Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#190 · Quote Reply

Last Thursdayism, all of reality came into existence as is ten seconds ago, maybe.

Counterpoint, Next Thursdayism, reality doesn't exist yet and your memory of reading this was manufactured at the moment of creation to try to convince you it had already happened.

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Th4tGuyII fedia.io Th4tGuyII@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-06-11
#191 · Quote Reply

Now try explaining that to someone who thinks science is a matter of belief. Spoilers: they will stop paying attention after you say "empiricism and falsifiability".

Yeah. Fair enough. That counter only really works against someone playing devil's advocate or who would actually hear you out.

It'd have to be a bit snappier otherwise. Probably just "Every scientific discovery ever made could be retested and remade if you had enough time and money. There's no test on Earth you can do to actually show me God"

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Amberskin europe.pub Amberskin@europe.pub
Joined: 2025-03-26
#192 · Quote Reply

Yes, sure, he's a little flaky. But God is just so perfect, all loving, and timeless... Exodus 21:20-21: Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

That was probably progressive at that time though… I mean, the ones who wrote it, not the imaginary space guy.

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Paulemeister feddit.org Paulemeister@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-08-30
#193 · Quote Reply

Intention is the only thing you control, and is what entangles you with the symbols sent to you via the Ālaya-vijñāna. I'm going to copy something I wrote recently: The simple argument is simulation theory, but I try to put effort into what I do, so I'm going to walk you through a thought experiment. Everything you experience is self-contained within your neurons, right? Well, you must be readi...

Your character mumbo jumbo aside, I agree simulation theory could be true but the same as the proposed Äther carrying the electromagnetic field, it is not possible to be proven wrong so it is ultimately useless.

I don't agree that our consciousness can choose what to do. I think it's just an illusion. In that sense your proposal that we steer our experiences by ourself through choosing with which systems to interact, in my opinion, is false.
Even if you assume the brain in a vat setup, assuming quantum physics holds in the "real" universe, we just end up with one huge system government by a very complicated wave function

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Impractical_Island lemmy.world Impractical_Island@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-15
#194 · Quote Reply

Your character mumbo jumbo aside, I agree simulation theory could be true but the same as the proposed Äther carrying the electromagnetic field, it is not possible to be proven wrong so it is ultimately useless. I don't agree that our consciousness can choose what to do. I think it's just an illusion. In that sense your proposal that we steer our experiences by ourself through choosing with whi...

a very complicated wave function

Most people call that God. The Buddhists and occultists have gone further to describe inner mechanisms through inner observation and interacting with "it," as it has an intelligence if you let it. The mechanism of belief plays a role in determining how it can communicate. For instance, if you know there is nothing random in the universe, God can talk through dice rolls, which is where the etymology of the word "sorcerer" comes from; a caster of lots, and "casting lots" is in the bible 47 times. Synchronicity is what Carl Jung called the overarching phenomena, which I recommend as a stepping off point to begin exploring these features of the mind/existence.

But, back to a more traditional view, some Buddhist sutras go into absurd depth of describing such things, with my life partner currently getting into studying hyperbolic geometry and topology for him to better understand what this or that monk was talking about. There's one sutra that describes the Ālaya-vijñāna in ten thousand pages. I certainly can't do that justice in a comment on the internet, which is why I choose to default to trying to make myself interesting so maybe someone will look into my mountains of work over the years.

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