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a_non_monotonic_function lemmy.world a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
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Nah, the US is just that good at propaganda that hurts us.

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CubitOom infosec.pub CubitOom@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-06-08
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It's New York, I am sure a non trivial amount of people don't care about him at all. And then what's left over are his actual supporters.

Ofcourse, the headline is obviously using the statistics in bad faith in an attempt to spin this in their favor.

Or another words, it is propaganda. Which I think is effective in every language although my sample size is limited.

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i_need_your_bones piefed.social i_need_your_bones@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-10-26
#4 · (edited) Quote Reply

Ok I'll admit I didn't get that at first what the fuck dude how'd you look at the stats and get that positioning from over 50% support

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Darkassassin07 lemmy.ca Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-01
#5 · Quote Reply

Ok I'll admit I didn't get that at first what the fuck dude how'd you look at the stats and get that positioning from over 50% support

how

Deliberately.

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hemmes lemmy.world hemmes@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#6 · Quote Reply

Okay, funny timing in my All thread

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sik0fewl piefed.ca sik0fewl@piefed.ca
Joined: 2025-07-06
#7 · Quote Reply

That’s less than more than 50%.

Source?

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Cethin lemmy.zip Cethin@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-07-01
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It's New York, I am sure a non trivial amount of people don't care about him at all. And then what's left over are his actual supporters. Ofcourse, the headline is obviously using the statistics in bad faith in an attempt to spin this in their favor. Or another words, it is propaganda. Which I think is effective in every language although my sample size is limited.

The actual implication of the headline is that over half do support him. Non-support includes those apathetic and against. Saying "almost less than half lack support" means "more than half do support." The other less than 50% is shared by "no opinion" and "against."

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CubitOom infosec.pub CubitOom@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-06-08
#9 · Quote Reply

The actual implication of the headline is that over half do support him. Non-support includes those apathetic and against. Saying "almost less than half lack support" means "more than half do support." The other less than 50% is shared by "no opinion" and "against."

You're right, the way it is worded, anyone who doesn't support him would include the people that are indifferent or don't care.

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Deacon lemmy.world deacon@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#10 · Quote Reply

Their mandate is merely resounding but not thunderously overwhelming yet? Great reporting.

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KyuubiNoKitsune lemmy.blahaj.zone KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-06-18
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That’s less than more than 50%. Source?

"Two days before the day after tomorrow!"

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athatet lemmy.zip athatet@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-09-12
#12 · Quote Reply

Their mandate is merely resounding but not thunderously overwhelming yet? Great reporting.

Well, no one has been slammed or blasted so there is still hope.

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Avicenna programming.dev Avicenna@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-11-07
#13 · Quote Reply

Does someone read this and go "oh no %50 don't support Madani so I should quench all my positive feelings for him." Maybe they do and that is why they produced this excrement piece of a headline.

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RememberTheApollo_ lemmy.world RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-26
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Here’s the actual article.

“New Yorkers”?

As in the entire State? A state that has large red rural areas? Polling people that aren’t even Mamdani’s constituents?

Some of the poll info is from the New York Post, an unapologetically right wing rag that has no problems trash talking the left.

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sinwell infosec.pub Septimaeus@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-07-09
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Reminds me of the old joke about second place, because of all the losers, you’re first.

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danc4498 lemmy.world danc4498@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-10
#16 · (edited) Quote Reply

Ok I'll admit I didn't get that at first what the fuck dude how'd you look at the stats and get that positioning from over 50% support

Not what that means

A Siena University poll showed that 30% of New York voters like the DSA and 47% don’t have a favorable view of them.

https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/almost-half-of-new-new-yorkers-arent-supportive-of-democratic-socialists-of-america-poll-zohran-mamdani-michigan-bernie-sanders

Edit: Worth noting, though, this is NY State likely voters. NYC is 49% support. 32% not support.

https://sri.siena.edu/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/SNY0826-Release-Crosstabs_Corrected.pdf

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WaitingTech lemmy.world waitingtech@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-10
#17 · (edited) Quote Reply


According to the Murdoch owned right-wingnut rag (WSJ) 69% in favour leaves 31% neutral or not in favour - 31% is NOT just under half, it's just under a third. Lying shitsacks.

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Funkt4st1c lemmy.world Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-30
#18 · Quote Reply

Here’s the actual article. “New Yorkers”? As in the entire State? A state that has large red rural areas? Polling people that aren’t even Mamdani’s constituents? Some of the poll info is from the New York Post, an unapologetically right wing rag that has no problems trash talking the left.

Maybe they dont like him because theyre jealous they dont get all of those sweet, sweet, DSA dollars and it exposes the incompetency of their own governments

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Sc00ter lemmy.zip Sc00ter@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-14
#19 · (edited) Quote Reply

According to the Murdoch owned right-wingnut rag (WSJ) 69% in favour leaves 31% neutral or not in favour - 31% is NOT just under half, it's just under a third. Lying shitsacks.

Just to be clear. That image isnt saying that WSJ reported that stat. That image says WSJ is saying new yorkers dont like him any longer, but the pole data (with no source stated) shows 69% favorable.

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i_need_your_bones piefed.social i_need_your_bones@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-10-26
#20 · (edited) Quote Reply

Not what that means A Siena University poll showed that 30% of New York voters like the DSA and 47% don’t have a favorable view of them. https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/almost-half-of-new-new-yorkers-arent-supportive-of-democratic-socialists-of-america-poll-zohran-mamdani-michigan-bernie-sanders Edit: Worth noting, though, this is NY State likely voters. NYC is 49% support. 32% not suppo...

Oh ok, in context that makes sense but I hope you can understand my confusion.

Thanks for the information

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danc4498 lemmy.world danc4498@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-10
#21 · Quote Reply

Oh ok, in context that makes sense but I hope you can understand my confusion. Thanks for the information

The headline was very much written to make DSA seem unpopular.

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huppakee lemmy.world huppakee@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-05-15
#22 · Quote Reply

Does someone read this and go "oh no %50 don't support Madani so I should quench all my positive feelings for him." Maybe they do and that is why they produced this excrement piece of a headline.

People just want to see their bias confirmed. They read this and think 'see, i knew he wasn't as popular as they say'.

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Bwaz lemmy.world Bwaz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-19
#23 · Quote Reply

What an idiot headline. That will work on loads of idiots.

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takeda lemmy.dbzer0.com takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-04
#24 · Quote Reply

Does someone read this and go "oh no %50 don't support Madani so I should quench all my positive feelings for him." Maybe they do and that is why they produced this excrement piece of a headline.

The title says almost half of New Yorkers aren't supportive of DSA.

Now:

  • that means majority of New Yorkers are supportive
  • "aren't supportive" implies that people who are apathetic are also included in that group
  • there's also suggestion they might have counted people from New York State instead of New York City, but I don't believe that
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WaitingTech lemmy.world waitingtech@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-10
#25 · Quote Reply

Just to be clear. That image isnt saying that WSJ reported that stat. That image says WSJ is saying new yorkers dont like him any longer, but the pole data (with no source stated) shows 69% favorable.

Understood.

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Nollij sopuli.xyz Nollij@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-08-16
#26 · Quote Reply

I hate to be the guy saying "Simpsons did it", but this exact same joke was used to highlight how dumb someone was.

In 1995.

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mavu discuss.tchncs.de mavu@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-09-08
#27 · Quote Reply

SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF NEW YORKERS UNHAPPY WITH MAMDANI!

MAMDANI IN TROUBLE! LESS SUPPORT FOR HIS POLICIES THAN EXPECTED!

MAJORITY OF NEW YORKERS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF MAMDANI~s~ ~opponents~

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Souvenir lemmy.dbzer0.com Souvenir@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-06
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Folstar lemmus.org Folstar@lemmus.org
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#29 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Is it a stupid move? Calling anything left of hunting the poor for sport "liberal" and anything left of giving the 1% all the money "communism" seems to be working extremely well for the right-wing. Perhaps we are dropping the ball by not giving an actual extreme left perspective in politics to balance things out.

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SocialistVibes01 lemmy.ml SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-04-30
#30 · Quote Reply

Should they?

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SocialistVibes01 lemmy.ml SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml
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#31 · Quote Reply

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Americans are irrationally anti-communist, that strategy is being used because it works.

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JcbAzPx lemmy.world JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
#32 · Quote Reply

Americans are irrationally anti-communist, that strategy is being used because it works.

Everyone gets called communist. And when everyone's communist, no one is.

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UltraMagnus0001 lemmy.world UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#33 · Quote Reply

Americans are irrationally anti-communist, that strategy is being used because it works.

Hey the Banana Republic is revolting! COMMUNIST! Here comes the American warships to stop communism in the name of the capitalist overlords with taxpayers money. Isn't that sosialism for the rich?

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SocialistVibes01 lemmy.ml SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-04-30
#34 · Quote Reply

Hey the Banana Republic is revolting! COMMUNIST! Here comes the American warships to stop communism in the name of the capitalist overlords with taxpayers money. Isn't that sosialism for the rich?

Nowadays can they even reach the target without killing themselves? 😂

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Kairos lemmy.today LodeMike@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-12-26
#35 · Quote Reply

This is, in no way, unique to English.

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